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  Aerowyn

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Joined: 2/20/12
Posts: 7969

1/26/13 3:05:23 PM#61
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Thorqemada

EQ Next will probably show up more infos over the coming months.

Ooo I like this comment.

With PS4, XBOX3, and more info on games like EQnext and maybe even Titan coming out, way too early to tell what games I'm going to be playing at the end of the year.

I'm hoping to beta both AA and ESO but I'm willing to wager the real sleeper hit from the East might not be AA afterall - it'll be Black Desert.

 

Unfortunately while I am very interested in Black Desert and think its going to do well I don't think its going to appeal to as large of an audience. Definitely one I'm keeping an eye on though. 

black desert looks awsome best character models i have ever seen for a MMO imho... hopefully it turns out good.. AA seems to have more options though i haven't seen black deset show ship battles or anything like that.. also AA looks more traditional MMO combat and black desert much more action oriented..

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  GrayGhost79

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Joined: 8/30/08
Posts: 4889

1/26/13 3:14:43 PM#62
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Thorqemada

EQ Next will probably show up more infos over the coming months.

Ooo I like this comment.

With PS4, XBOX3, and more info on games like EQnext and maybe even Titan coming out, way too early to tell what games I'm going to be playing at the end of the year.

I'm hoping to beta both AA and ESO but I'm willing to wager the real sleeper hit from the East might not be AA afterall - it'll be Black Desert.

 

Unfortunately while I am very interested in Black Desert and think its going to do well I don't think its going to appeal to as large of an audience. Definitely one I'm keeping an eye on though. 

black desert looks awsome best character models i have ever seen for a MMO imho... hopefully it turns out good.. AA seems to have more options though i haven't seen black deset show ship battles or anything like that.. also AA looks more traditional MMO combat and black desert much more action oriented..

The housing system alone in Black Desert warrants interest. The quality, depth, and level of detail in the game are going to be whats going to hold it back though. Many are going to be overwhelmed and others simply won't be able to run it well if at all. 

  BadSpock

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Joined: 8/21/04
Posts: 7769

Logic be damned!

1/26/13 3:17:38 PM#63
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Thorqemada

EQ Next will probably show up more infos over the coming months.

Ooo I like this comment.

With PS4, XBOX3, and more info on games like EQnext and maybe even Titan coming out, way too early to tell what games I'm going to be playing at the end of the year.

I'm hoping to beta both AA and ESO but I'm willing to wager the real sleeper hit from the East might not be AA afterall - it'll be Black Desert.

 

Unfortunately while I am very interested in Black Desert and think its going to do well I don't think its going to appeal to as large of an audience. Definitely one I'm keeping an eye on though. 

black desert looks awsome best character models i have ever seen for a MMO imho... hopefully it turns out good.. AA seems to have more options though i haven't seen black deset show ship battles or anything like that.. also AA looks more traditional MMO combat and black desert much more action oriented..

The housing system alone in Black Desert warrants interest. The quality, depth, and level of detail in the game are going to be whats going to hold it back though. Many are going to be overwhelmed and others simply won't be able to run it well if at all. 

I love the housing system, looks like great combat, great scale/size of world and large battles... again all just based off the very limited info we've seen.

Definitely looks better in trailers than anything I've seen of AA or ESO and really any fantasy MMO in quite some time...

http://www.youtube.com/pearlabyss

 

Now Playing: Destiny, WoW

  Shaike

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Joined: 4/23/12
Posts: 293

At first there were games, then MMOs, then MMORPGs then I understood I had no life :-)

1/26/13 3:17:48 PM#64

1. Why Choose???

2. If i have to choose only one - Wildstar :-)

Just my 2 cents...

  Aerowyn

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Joined: 2/20/12
Posts: 7969

1/26/13 3:19:11 PM#65
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Thorqemada

EQ Next will probably show up more infos over the coming months.

Ooo I like this comment.

With PS4, XBOX3, and more info on games like EQnext and maybe even Titan coming out, way too early to tell what games I'm going to be playing at the end of the year.

I'm hoping to beta both AA and ESO but I'm willing to wager the real sleeper hit from the East might not be AA afterall - it'll be Black Desert.

 

Unfortunately while I am very interested in Black Desert and think its going to do well I don't think its going to appeal to as large of an audience. Definitely one I'm keeping an eye on though. 

black desert looks awsome best character models i have ever seen for a MMO imho... hopefully it turns out good.. AA seems to have more options though i haven't seen black deset show ship battles or anything like that.. also AA looks more traditional MMO combat and black desert much more action oriented..

The housing system alone in Black Desert warrants interest. The quality, depth, and level of detail in the game are going to be whats going to hold it back though. Many are going to be overwhelmed and others simply won't be able to run it well if at all. 

seiges in black deset do look interesting as well from the video i saw it looks like you have npc soldiers fighting alongside the players.. not sure if those soldiers are player controlled in anyway or what but looked neat...

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  GrayGhost79

Novice Member

Joined: 8/30/08
Posts: 4889

1/26/13 3:24:21 PM#66
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Thorqemada

EQ Next will probably show up more infos over the coming months.

Ooo I like this comment.

With PS4, XBOX3, and more info on games like EQnext and maybe even Titan coming out, way too early to tell what games I'm going to be playing at the end of the year.

I'm hoping to beta both AA and ESO but I'm willing to wager the real sleeper hit from the East might not be AA afterall - it'll be Black Desert.

 

Unfortunately while I am very interested in Black Desert and think its going to do well I don't think its going to appeal to as large of an audience. Definitely one I'm keeping an eye on though. 

black desert looks awsome best character models i have ever seen for a MMO imho... hopefully it turns out good.. AA seems to have more options though i haven't seen black deset show ship battles or anything like that.. also AA looks more traditional MMO combat and black desert much more action oriented..

The housing system alone in Black Desert warrants interest. The quality, depth, and level of detail in the game are going to be whats going to hold it back though. Many are going to be overwhelmed and others simply won't be able to run it well if at all. 

seiges in black deset do look interesting as well from the video i saw it looks like you have npc soldiers fighting alongside the players.. not sure if those soldiers are player controlled in anyway or what but looked neat...

While everything looks good with this game I fear I must admit the main selling point and the thing that locked this into a must play game for me is the fact that I will have a house in the world (not in an instance thats cut off from the world unless I invite you in) and that I can turn a portion of it into my very own shop or a crafting area on top of having functional furniture. I haven't been able to do this since Ultima Online. I'm excited about a lot with this game but... as dumb as it may sound this is my main reason lol...

  Aerowyn

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Joined: 2/20/12
Posts: 7969

1/26/13 3:27:14 PM#67
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Thorqemada

EQ Next will probably show up more infos over the coming months.

Ooo I like this comment.

With PS4, XBOX3, and more info on games like EQnext and maybe even Titan coming out, way too early to tell what games I'm going to be playing at the end of the year.

I'm hoping to beta both AA and ESO but I'm willing to wager the real sleeper hit from the East might not be AA afterall - it'll be Black Desert.

 

Unfortunately while I am very interested in Black Desert and think its going to do well I don't think its going to appeal to as large of an audience. Definitely one I'm keeping an eye on though. 

black desert looks awsome best character models i have ever seen for a MMO imho... hopefully it turns out good.. AA seems to have more options though i haven't seen black deset show ship battles or anything like that.. also AA looks more traditional MMO combat and black desert much more action oriented..

The housing system alone in Black Desert warrants interest. The quality, depth, and level of detail in the game are going to be whats going to hold it back though. Many are going to be overwhelmed and others simply won't be able to run it well if at all. 

seiges in black deset do look interesting as well from the video i saw it looks like you have npc soldiers fighting alongside the players.. not sure if those soldiers are player controlled in anyway or what but looked neat...

While everything looks good with this game I fear I must admit the main selling point and the thing that locked this into a must play game for me is the fact that I will have a house in the world (not in an instance thats cut off from the world unless I invite you in) and that I can turn a portion of it into my very own shop or a crafting area on top of having functional furniture. I haven't been able to do this since Ultima Online. I'm excited about a lot with this game but... as dumb as it may sound this is my main reason lol...

from looks of it the repopulation will have that option as well...

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  DrCokePepsi

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Joined: 12/18/12
Posts: 163

What I have shown you is reality. What you remember, that is the illusion.
~Sephiroth FFVII

1/26/13 3:32:33 PM#68
Now this is coming from a VERY hardcore sandbox MMO lover so please dont hate on me, but the fact that you mentioned firstof all, the 3 faction, wvw one server thing as your excitment for the game makes me think, you should just play gw2 or wow, TESO doesnt seem to be groundbreaking at all. Secodly, the fact that you mentioned graphics at all really bothers me. In an MMO, grpahics mean absolutely nothing as long as you can see what the environment your in is, and as long as you can see what your doing and you dont have to strain your eyes playing. In an MMO, gameplay is what matters totally, you want to venture in to a new WORLD, not just a detailed little themepark. Graphics take away fromhow much value and expansiveness there can be in a game. I would totally play another Ultima as long as it stayed true to it's most valued aspects, huge fantastic world, with adventure and freedom. Am I looking forward to TESO? Yeah. Totes. Do i feel like it's going to be a game, that years later i'll still be engrossed in? Not from what im hearing. ArcheAge seems very promising to me. Now whether or not i dump my time into it depends on the other promising MMO's coming out as well. But the sandbox elements; player housing, guild cities, boats, open world, things like that are what i like in a game. I don't like openng up an MMO with a quest icon in front of me marked as 'tutorial' I like going into a game and thinking 'Hey, those mountains or that city seems pretty cool i think ill go there and see if there's and baddies i can kill for a helmet or something' As for the nationality or origin of It's creators, I am a fan of medieval-setting games primarily and haven't enjoyed too many asian MMO's. But, it definitely doesn't give me a biased decision, It's either i enjoy it or i dont. but for the most part i HAVE primarily just played western MMO's.
  warpath98

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Joined: 12/09/12
Posts: 4

1/26/13 3:33:47 PM#69
ArcheAge is unique enough that it will attract its own crowd of players.  However, I think The Elder Scrolls Online will be in competition with Neverwinter Online if both are released this year.  Unfortunally, which ever game  is released first will probably stand a better chance of survivial unless they end up being free to play.  Which is the best?  I'm interested in all three and hope to beta test all of them this year. 
  TickleMeHomo

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Joined: 11/13/12
Posts: 28

1/26/13 3:37:51 PM#70

I espect as going  west TES will be favor as going east more in favor is AA.But its all same hype.AA as korean game will be 1-2 years p2p than will jump on f2p train too as for TES idk i do have some big hopes.There are quite the polished f2p games out there and as soon people get bored from these 2 its easily changed.

  darkhalf357x

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/25/12
Posts: 1128

I'm only playing the role chosen for me. Who you supposed to be?

1/26/13 3:44:16 PM#71

Like you had to ask. ArcheAge hands down.

But I will be playing both.

  NaughtyP

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Joined: 12/02/11
Posts: 795

1/26/13 4:06:40 PM#72

While I think TESO might do well, I have no interest in it personally.

ArcheAge all the way for me.

Enter a whole new realm of challenge and adventure.

  Vorthanion

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Joined: 7/02/11
Posts: 1966

1/26/13 4:10:29 PM#73
I'm more interested in AA, primarily because they aren't going with action style combat and because it probably will release before EQNext, which is the MMO I'm most eager to play.

  jtcgs

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Joined: 9/28/04
Posts: 1843

1/26/13 4:12:19 PM#74
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Jtc
Why I said except skyrim.

Oblivion and Morrowind have classes.

You do level through kills, what happens to your archery skill when you shoot a bandit.

Tes games DO have gated content. example you can't progress the main story in skyrim until you have the required shouts. You can't enter the mages guild until your magicacis high enough to cast fear.

 Did you even play Marrowind or Oblivion? Nope...cause it was the same as Skyrim, no classes, it was free form based on whatever skills you chose to use and you could use them all WHENEVER YOU WANT.

As for the, bandit comment. You can SUMMON a thing, shoot it and raise your skill. ZERO quest XP...hell, you could do NOTHING but JUMP IN PLACE and gain a level in Marrowind...or just SWIM!

and for the last part...you will reach for any tiny little thing no matter what is said. Heck, you have to run and DISCOVER a place before you can port to it...its GATED ZOMG!

Hey, I have to start to game to play it, its gated, cause im going to redfine it to mean what I need it to mean so I can defend TESO!

“I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson

  jtcgs

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Joined: 9/28/04
Posts: 1843

1/26/13 4:16:48 PM#75
Originally posted by GrayGhost79

The housing system alone in Black Desert warrants interest. The quality, depth, and level of detail in the game are going to be whats going to hold it back though. Many are going to be overwhelmed and others simply won't be able to run it well if at all. 

 Not sure on that last part yet as they said they made their own in house engine so it may not be hard on systems at all...or it could very well burden even hardcore rigs if they dont know what they are doing.

“I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson

  Vorthanion

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Joined: 7/02/11
Posts: 1966

1/26/13 4:24:32 PM#76
Originally posted by jtcgs
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Jtc
Why I said except skyrim.

Oblivion and Morrowind have classes.

You do level through kills, what happens to your archery skill when you shoot a bandit.

Tes games DO have gated content. example you can't progress the main story in skyrim until you have the required shouts. You can't enter the mages guild until your magicacis high enough to cast fear.

 Did you even play Marrowind or Oblivion? Nope...cause it was the same as Skyrim, no classes, it was free form based on whatever skills you chose to use and you could use them all WHENEVER YOU WANT.

As for the, bandit comment. You can SUMMON a thing, shoot it and raise your skill. ZERO quest XP...hell, you could do NOTHING but JUMP IN PLACE and gain a level in Marrowind...or just SWIM!

and for the last part...you will reach for any tiny little thing no matter what is said. Heck, you have to run and DISCOVER a place before you can port to it...its GATED ZOMG!

Hey, I have to start to game to play it, its gated, cause im going to redfine it to mean what I need it to mean so I can defend TESO!

He is correct and you are not.  Both Morrowind and Oblivion had classes.  You could, during character creation, go with one of their preset classes or like many of us, you could opt to create your own set of skills and spells.

  jtcgs

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Joined: 9/28/04
Posts: 1843

1/26/13 4:32:23 PM#77
Originally posted by Vorthanion

He is correct and you are not.  Both Morrowind and Oblivion had classes.  You could, during character creation, go with one of their preset classes or like many of us, you could opt to create your own set of skills and spells.

 I suggest you go re-install one of them, chose a class and see what it actually IS.

You can chose to be an "acrobat" and all that happens is that your Agility and Endurace attributes become your "main" and thus you will level Its related skills FASTER. You can still use MAGIC or any other skill in the game not related to "Acrobatic" skills...or dont you remember getting +5 points to place in any "skills" when you chose "custom class"? You still had to pick 5 things, but it did not limit you to only a "classes" skills. So the word "class" is only there as an identifier, not as a "limiter" like in games with ACTUAL classes.

“I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson

  GrayGhost79

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Joined: 8/30/08
Posts: 4889

1/26/13 4:39:17 PM#78
Originally posted by jtcgs
Originally posted by GrayGhost79

The housing system alone in Black Desert warrants interest. The quality, depth, and level of detail in the game are going to be whats going to hold it back though. Many are going to be overwhelmed and others simply won't be able to run it well if at all. 

 Not sure on that last part yet as they said they made their own in house engine so it may not be hard on systems at all...or it could very well burden even hardcore rigs if they dont know what they are doing.

Wasn't solely based on the housing system. It was mainly based on the quality and level of detail in the models and textures as well as the quality and detail in the particle effects. When you have light reflecting off of metal objects in game on top of all that with some very detailed shadows the system requirements are going to be pretty steep. A lot can be turned down but... I can't see it making it very low end system friendly. 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNFSw107MQs

 

Watch that video at 1080p and tell me you don't see some high system requirements being warranted lol. 

  Vorthanion

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Joined: 7/02/11
Posts: 1966

1/26/13 4:40:43 PM#79
Originally posted by jtcgs
Originally posted by Vorthanion

He is correct and you are not.  Both Morrowind and Oblivion had classes.  You could, during character creation, go with one of their preset classes or like many of us, you could opt to create your own set of skills and spells.

 I suggest you go re-install one of them, chose a class and see what it actually IS.

You can chose to be an "acrobat" and all that happens is that your Agility and Endurace attributes become your "main" and thus you will level Its related skills FASTER. You can still use MAGIC or any other skill in the game not related to "Acrobatic" skills...or dont you remember getting +5 points to place in any "skills" when you chose "custom class"? You still had to pick 5 things, but it did not limit you to only a "classes" skills. So the word "class" is only there as an identifier, not as a "limiter" like in games with ACTUAL classes.

I suggest you go to both the Morrowind and Oblivion wiki sites [mod edit]

  NC-John

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Joined: 1/08/13
Posts: 112

1/26/13 4:46:51 PM#80
AA is a hybrid sandbox. It is attempting to offer the best of both worlds as it were. TESO seems interesting and it could do well depending on how they monetize (F2P/SUB?) the game, but if you compare the agendas of both games developers (making money) then look at TESO devs as a group motivated by selling you something you have played in the past with the elder scrolls brand attached to it.

TESO will offer you some systems based on Dark Age of Camelot and Ultima online, as well as features solely based on the standard MMO themepark template I.E EQ/WOW.

WOW generation see's nothing wrong with it and that is demographics TESO will shoot for. It will keep promisng skyrim like features and may even have some, but it's agenda is to grab the modern day MMO gamer who plays more PVP then loves or cares for sandbox features like housing or creating your own content.

AA is a hybrid that will attempt to allow player to create their own content and a to a small degree allow for those same MMOers who love themeparks to enjoy that part of the game as well.

I personally see AA having more options then TESO.

"Not even a cray super computer can make this game run well. Thats what happens when you code an MMO in pascal. " - miglor

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