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General Discussion Forum » The Pub at MMORPG.COM » Does complexity get mixed up with depth?

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OP  1/17/13 1:38:29 AM#1

http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/depth-vs.-complexity

I was looking at the above link, and it got me wondering:

Do people on this forum tend to get the two mixed up, or assume they are the same?

  maplestone

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1/17/13 3:14:38 AM#2

No, I think people around here have a pretty good concept of the difference.  But I also believe MMOs are fundementally different than more focused games because exploring the complexity of an MMO is an essential part of the game experience

  Phaserlight

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1/17/13 4:50:20 AM#3

Complexity =/= depth

Something that is deep can also be complex, but something that is complex is not necessarily deep.

Something can be very simple and easy to say, but take a while to understand.  For example: "light is both a particle and a wave".

Something can be complex and take a while to understand, but not be very deep.  For example (in my opinion): the U.S. Tax Code.

A touchstone might be that a deep concept can be explained easily, but even the one who is explaining it may not yet fully understand the concept.

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  Gdemami

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1/17/13 4:54:19 AM#4


Originally posted by Yakkin

Do people on this forum tend to get the two mixed up, or assume they are the same?

Definitely.

Complexity = features
Depth = design, how those features are implemented and how they interact with each other


Imo, vast majority of posters here do not understand what design is, they just make list of features = design.

  Quirhid

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1/17/13 6:48:19 AM#5

Often.

Sometimes they can't tell the difference, other times they think complexity automatically breeds depth.

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  QSatu

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1/17/13 6:50:17 AM#6
All the time. Prime example is gW2's combat system. So many people think that adding 500 new weapon skills would add to the depth of combat.