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  sofakingdumb

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/29/11
Posts: 67

you all have chins

3/23/12 7:26:20 AM#21

You all need to grow up. The game is running nad growing just fine.

 

Nothing but a sad bunch of QQr's here.

 

Half the people that join usually have poor computers, and quit nad QQ

 

Another half are just poor non working tard students. They QQ about price. Then go play sub game. Why in a f2p game if you think the price is silly and compare to wow. IF you compare to wow, you should never have left wow.

 

Also, Internet on everage is $25, alone, minimum connection. $45 with a top speed and bundle maybe. A MONTH.

So, your moms should pull the plug on your net till you get a job. When you get a job, you have money. When you have money, you cna game competitvely. Stop biatching about prices if your poor. If your poor, go out and get a job, or just lay outside. 

  nyxium

Novice Member

Joined: 3/15/09
Posts: 1206

Tumbling down the rabbit hole?

3/23/12 7:33:01 AM#22

:'-(

  Nalawin

Novice Member

Joined: 3/20/12
Posts: 2

3/26/12 2:50:57 PM#23

I played this game just after the gipat patch, and only lasted till about level 18 before i decide it was not a free to play game (just after all my free incense ran out and i realized i couldnt kill anything).

 

I recently decided to give it another try and have been pleasantly surprised as all the issues i had have been fixed.  Yes the cash shop is still there and will make leveling, gearing, etc easier, but it is not required now.  Almost everything can be bought with in game gold, but you have to put the time in but that is the case with any F2P game.  When i started playing again they had an event running that was giving out mounts for doing some rep quest and turning in special coins, so you dont even need to pay for a mount you just need to be patient and participate in the event when they come around.

 

If you left this game previously i would give it another shot, and if you are just looking for a F2P MMO i would give this one a shot.  i have Played ROM and i think the balance to paying and non-paying players is better in this game.

  DrDream

Novice Member

Joined: 11/17/10
Posts: 166

"Hey...... look a dragon!!"

3/26/12 4:59:20 PM#24

I agree with the guy above me, the game seems to be growing steadily. i myself am new to Allods and so far ive been having a pretty good time, the sights are nice, the music is quiet amazing in some areas. Im Currently Level 11 Ranger.

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  JoeyMMO

Novice Member

Joined: 10/09/11
Posts: 1334

To busy playing GW2 to post much around here... *shrug*

3/27/12 2:25:18 AM#25
Originally posted by Nalawin

I played this game just after the gipat patch, and only lasted till about level 18 before i decide it was not a free to play game (just after all my free incense ran out and i realized i couldnt kill anything).

 

I recently decided to give it another try and have been pleasantly surprised as all the issues i had have been fixed.  Yes the cash shop is still there and will make leveling, gearing, etc easier, but it is not required now.  Almost everything can be bought with in game gold, but you have to put the time in but that is the case with any F2P game.  When i started playing again they had an event running that was giving out mounts for doing some rep quest and turning in special coins, so you dont even need to pay for a mount you just need to be patient and participate in the event when they come around.

 

If you left this game previously i would give it another shot, and if you are just looking for a F2P MMO i would give this one a shot.  i have Played ROM and i think the balance to paying and non-paying players is better in this game.

If your reference is playing just after the Gipat patch hit, then you couldn't have tried it at a worse time. That was the killer patch that just about decimated the player base (I like to exagerate a bit :P ). That was really the dark era of Allods Online. Things have been getting increasingly better. Events, expansions, incense not required any more. Cash Shop is almost entirely optional though you'll want some of the things in there like extra bag space early on. To enjoy all the end game content you'll need runes, but even those can be purchased with in game gold. You'll need a lot of gold, but it's certainly doable. Events frequently hand out tons of other CS items (like costumes, elixirs, mounts and even tokens for extra bag space), sometimes to the point of sounding too good to be true.

Support has been getting better and better as well. Come to think of it, I should be updating their support rating, they have pleasantly surprised me recently.

  krem4opld

Novice Member

Joined: 11/14/09
Posts: 12

3/27/12 2:30:00 AM#26

I have to agree with the post and thread :(( Which really saddens me btw. Even when i started playing this game it had Low Population on all servers in EU and US. Dunno why gpotato didnt merge them :-? Sadly nothing different happened after the last expansio (Game of Gods, was it?)

  User Deleted
4/06/12 11:43:15 PM#27

Well theres two servers. One is dead, and absolutely and completely dead if you choose the wrong faction.

The other server, starts with an N...that server feels much more populated...theres actually some life in the starter areas.

Just my opinion, but seems like a bit much of group content in the 1-11 starter area city, on the populated server it does seem quite a bit difficult to get people to do them.  Its even harder to find a balanced group since most players are sorc/summoners/scouts/bards...dont think ive seen a tank in the starter area yet and mabey one healer.

Most of the group content is doable with a mass of dps classes, but i do know theres a dungeon towards the end, i see an occasional spam looking for tank/heals/dps for it.

Im not anti-group content, it just sucks seeing all these non soloable quests and also have it be nearly impossible to get a group together to do it.

Good news for this game and games like it is that were in kind of a AAA mmorpg dead zone for the time being. Theres going to be lots of people looking for a cheap filler game untill the next round of major launches.  This game isnt terrible and relativly unknown.  Id expect the pop to grow a bit leading into the summer due to this.  People are looking for something diffrent and something they havent played yet to fill the gap if you will.

  Zoterix

Novice Member

Joined: 9/03/11
Posts: 20

4/08/12 11:12:07 AM#28

This game died after Open Beta introducing the pvp parfumes for me.. Dunno how is it now, but I think they just need a better publisher, because the game itself is great.

  Saxx0n

PR/Brand Manager BitBox Ltd.

Joined: 10/15/10
Posts: 832

4/08/12 11:14:45 AM#29
Originally posted by sofakingdumb

 nad QQ

 

That nad QQ is rough.

  User Deleted
4/10/12 12:34:50 AM#30

Its the cash shop thats killed/is killing the game.

Once people realize the center role of the cash shop in the game...they start to lose interest in the game.

Especially when there are other games out there that have nothing more than xp boost items/ costumes / pets / stat potions.

This game seems to require that you spend real money on runes (which can be seriously expensive) and for in game gold just to play...on top of all the stuff in normal cash shops.

 

The more people i talk to in game who give me advice on what endgame is...the less i become interested...despite the actual content sounds great.  I can expect to be barred from any decent goups without having invested hundreds-thousands of dollars in pay to win items and the in game currency to compete.

I have no qualms with financially supporting the games i play...but this game is out of control with the cash shop.

 

I mean theres raids that havent been cleared yet because all the raid members havent spent enough in the cash shop on runes ect....theres still world firsts that havent been achieved because of this....not because the player skill or the time devoted wasnt there but because everyone hasnt spent enough in the cash shop...thats just crazy.

 

Really is sad because its a good game mechanically....its fun and complex and you need to think things through with progression...honestly never seen a cash shop this bold.

  B1mble

Apprentice Member

Joined: 10/04/10
Posts: 151

4/10/12 4:51:23 AM#31

They should release this game on Steam.  They did it with Forsaken World and Pandora Saga, both of which suck, and the games got a second lease of life.

As to the cash shop...that all depends on your gaming style. 

I play to have fun and craft, an attempt to leave a working day behind.  As such I never use it although I will at some point just to change my toons appearnce.

If you are a hardcore gamer on the other hand then as far as I am aware, a full set of Runes will set you back 150 euros over time and they aren't as important as they used to be.  As to everything else, I think you have to stack it up against a Years sub if you plan on sticking it out that long.  You will probably find it balances out give or take a few quid.  The rest will probably be down to being an over enthusiastic shopper :D

If anyone hasnt played this before I urge you to give it a go.  It is most definately one of the better ones out there.

 

Edit:

I also believe that in-game gold can be exchanged for cash shop currency although I haven't tried this yet.

  Cawickeng

Novice Member

Joined: 6/03/10
Posts: 122

4/13/12 9:34:00 PM#32
Originally posted by B1mble

They should release this game on Steam.  They did it with Forsaken World and Pandora Saga, both of which suck, and the games got a second lease of life.

As to the cash shop...that all depends on your gaming style. 

I play to have fun and craft, an attempt to leave a working day behind.  As such I never use it although I will at some point just to change my toons appearnce.

If you are a hardcore gamer on the other hand then as far as I am aware, a full set of Runes will set you back 150 euros over time and they aren't as important as they used to be.  As to everything else, I think you have to stack it up against a Years sub if you plan on sticking it out that long.  You will probably find it balances out give or take a few quid.  The rest will probably be down to being an over enthusiastic shopper :D

If anyone hasnt played this before I urge you to give it a go.  It is most definately one of the better ones out there.

 

Edit:

I also believe that in-game gold can be exchanged for cash shop currency although I haven't tried this yet.

I haven't seen a single one of my friends even DL Forsaken World, and they dl pretty much all the free games on Steam.  This thread should be called The Dead Allods.

  User Deleted
4/13/12 9:45:07 PM#33
Originally posted by B1mble

They should release this game on Steam.  They did it with Forsaken World and Pandora Saga, both of which suck, and the games got a second lease of life.

As to the cash shop...that all depends on your gaming style. 

I play to have fun and craft, an attempt to leave a working day behind.  As such I never use it although I will at some point just to change my toons appearnce.

If you are a hardcore gamer on the other hand then as far as I am aware, a full set of Runes will set you back 150 euros over time and they aren't as important as they used to be.  As to everything else, I think you have to stack it up against a Years sub if you plan on sticking it out that long.  You will probably find it balances out give or take a few quid.  The rest will probably be down to being an over enthusiastic shopper :D

If anyone hasnt played this before I urge you to give it a go.  It is most definately one of the better ones out there.

 

Edit:

I also believe that in-game gold can be exchanged for cash shop currency although I haven't tried this yet.

 

Well, part of the big turn off with this game falls into two categories really. 

First experience with the game is that it doe really have a look that makes you think of another game...lots of people called it a complete rip off of this game, despite mechanically its completely diffrent...it has that look and feel i guess.

Second turnoff comes after youve been playing, its cash shop related.  Yes you can convert farmed gold to cash shop currency and vise versa.  Problem is this game is loaded with gold sinks, mostly related to the rune system.  Runes can cost thousands of dollars apparently, exponential combining to get higher level runes.  Runes require cahs shop items and in game gold.  Doing it for free with in game gold requires an insanse amount of gold. 

On top of the rune system, just about every mechanism in the game that allows you to farm gold sucks that gold away. Its not easy to farm gold in the game, not nearly the amounts you need to stay competative.  You will get shunned from endgame activites without all runes being of a certain level, theres 6 of them.  3 flat rate increase your dmg by a % other 3 flat rate increase damage taken. You can pretty easily get level 2-3 runes across the board.  After that it gets kind of crazy.  Max is level 13.

http://allods-wiki.gpotato.com/wiki/Runes (theres a slider that allows you to spend more or less cash shop chips in exchange for more gold dust the in game gold item needed hence all the variations in gpots/gold listed)  Its exponential so to make a level 3 rune you need to make two level 2 runes then combine them if you care to calculate how much $$ it would cost to make a certain level rune, again above level 10 its too expensive to really bother listing but you can get a good idea) At $30 for 3k gpots it would take about $1,140 to make a single level 11 rune not including 1,800 in game gold needed with that.  Just a frame of reference on what people spend, theres 6 slots...ive seen people wil 3 level 11 and 3 level 10 runes in game.

Notice that the guide stop before the max rune level, its quite expensive to combine 2 level 10 runes to make an 11 ect and then continue on to level 13.  I think most require at least level 4-5 for low level endgame.  I hear that the top tier instance hasnt even been completed with fully geared players due to lack of rune level....yeah theres still a raid that no one can complete.

Anyway...ignoring the games mechanics to get you to spend big to win, the games pretty fun mechanically.  Very fun and interesting classes, good themepark attractions...unique russian feel to it.  Its just a shame they got carried away with the cash shop...and my experience was after they drive their playerbase away by making the game more cash shop dependant...its apparently many times better now.

 

A very good game however if you LOVE to farm.  Youll never run out of gold to farm for things in the cash shop.  You always will have a goal on something you can buy from the gold you farm.  Just dont expect this to be a game where you running top tier raids in a month, unless you spend thousands of dollars in the cash shop.

 

I dont think in its current state that putting the game on steam will do much, its a game that going to drive away most people outside of the "god i love to farm endless amounts of gold" players and those who like to show off how much they can spend in the cash shop. 

  JoeyMMO

Novice Member

Joined: 10/09/11
Posts: 1334

To busy playing GW2 to post much around here... *shrug*

4/14/12 3:06:02 AM#34
Originally posted by Crunchy221

Well, part of the big turn off with this game falls into two categories really. 

First experience with the game is that it doe really have a look that makes you think of another game...lots of people called it a complete rip off of this game, despite mechanically its completely diffrent...it has that look and feel i guess.

Second turnoff comes after youve been playing, its cash shop related.  Yes you can convert farmed gold to cash shop currency and vise versa.  Problem is this game is loaded with gold sinks, mostly related to the rune system.  Runes can cost thousands of dollars apparently, exponential combining to get higher level runes.  Runes require cahs shop items and in game gold.  Doing it for free with in game gold requires an insanse amount of gold. 

On top of the rune system, just about every mechanism in the game that allows you to farm gold sucks that gold away. Its not easy to farm gold in the game, not nearly the amounts you need to stay competative.  You will get shunned from endgame activites without all runes being of a certain level, theres 6 of them.  3 flat rate increase your dmg by a % other 3 flat rate increase damage taken. You can pretty easily get level 2-3 runes across the board.  After that it gets kind of crazy.  Max is level 13.

*snip*

 Well, it has that WoW look, no doubt about that. I actually think it looks better than WoW and has an added twist with the Allods and Astral theme. So while it's no doubt heavily inspired by WoW graphics, I wouldn't say it's a complete rip off.

Second the cash shop. You're right that the game is cash shop driven and the game has a lot of gold sinks. This however has an upside to it. The demand for gold is always quite high and keeps the shard prices in check. The exchange rate has been going down, down and further down since they installed that Shard NPC with the latest patch. Imagine those shard prices if the spenders had no real use for gold.

The offensive runes give a 3.333% increase to damage per level. The defensive runes actually decrease the damage taken, not increase, by about 2.5% per level. So per 3 runes on offense +10% to damage, 3 runes to defense -7.5% to damage taken. I disagree somewhat on things getting crazing after level 2 or 3 however. I'm working on getting 7's across the board now, that gets a bit crazy granted, but 4 or 5 should still be quite feasable if you put your mind to it. You might not be overly popular with just level 5 runes, but it should be doable to experience the real end game without needing to put real money into the game. You won't get there in a month but you can get there.

  User Deleted
4/14/12 9:55:18 PM#35

Well the wow like look is something i would describe as a HD version of wow with better colors but no lighting effects, however ive only played wow for a very short period of time back i think during the litch king expansion, not sure if i stayed the full month...so the graphics may be diffrent now.  Either way, i think its how the characters move and the general feel that will remind people of wow...thats not a positive these days.  Again that fooling fades once you have to deal with the interesting classes and the fun character building with rubies talents and stats...i miss that kind of stuff in modern games. 

The cash shop issue is the big one, people need to decide if they want to remain in the game, make a large investment of time and money or move on...Yes you can probably get all level 5 runes and do most of the content eventually for free...most players are looking for endgame within a month which is only possible with the cash shop and the investment required trumps most AAA p2p mmorpgs over a long span of time....

Also now you got games like Aion going totall f2p, and their cash shop is good and relativly cheap considering.

 

The game missed its chance, they had tons of players and decided to make the cash shop non-optional and very expensive, its why most left, yes its been toned down a lot but the issue remains...bang for your buck theres a whole lot better out there. 

This game has unique and niche going for it, something thats well hidded by its wow-reminding-feeling early on. 

I would also like to point out that its publisher, Gpotato has been cleaning house with games that had similair populations...they just diched two games and shut them down.  What do you thinks going to happen to those with level 10-11 runes who did actually spend $5000+ (not joking either) if the game gets shut down?

  B1mble

Apprentice Member

Joined: 10/04/10
Posts: 151

4/17/12 2:34:28 AM#36

Two good signs of game health are crafting and the low level instances (if the game has them).

If there is a healthy population then low level crafting materials will be bought through auction or stall by other low level crafters trying to improve their skills.

In Allods the only craft worth doing for money  is herbalism and by connection alchemy.  Since coming back I have tried dissassembler, mining and blacksmith.  Anyone playing now either doesn't craft those because their is no money in them or because they are such high levels those materials are no longer needed.

Putting it briefly, there are not enough new players to create a broad crafting base to make all of them usefull.

Secondly, if you can find anyone to do Oreshek Fortress apart from a couple of scouts then that doesn't bode well either.

If this game is to continue it really does need some serious advertising, a new cash shop model, and divine intervention.

  feroshus

Novice Member

Joined: 3/15/12
Posts: 84

4/17/12 3:07:23 AM#37

Quit this game when they announced the new patch. They announced it way too early. Since it would make most of the activites at the time obsolete, there was really nothing to do for like 2-3 months but wait. Why collect gear that you are going to be npcing in the near future? Same with ship parts and astral gems.

I logged on 2 days after the 51 patch and all of the active people in my guild had already hit cap...seemed like just more of the same. Been playing off and on since the first day it came online, Gipat patch was a real low point as everyone knows(I quit for a year), Kirah patch was the high point for me. My chosen class (mage) was most fun to play during this patch, the new changes are just weird and take most of the fun out of the class IMO....

In short, yeah it's a fading P2W gear/gold grind that couldn't have been handled worse. It looked like it might turn around there for a minute, but it wasn't meant to be. For anyone still playing, let it die guys. Let it die : (

  B1mble

Apprentice Member

Joined: 10/04/10
Posts: 151

4/18/12 3:30:19 PM#38

Logged in tonight (EU Version) probably for the last time.  I have a character in each faction and both were ghost towns.  Have been trying to get a group for Oreshek now for 3 days with no luck. 

Just not enough players coming up to create a balanced group.  It has so far been a couple of scouts or one or two bards and thats it.

This game is dead and is just not bright enough to fall down.  Shame as it was one of the better ones (cash shop aside :S )

I don't even think its worth saying' give it a go its free' because the isolationist experience will not do it justice.

:(

  JoeyMMO

Novice Member

Joined: 10/09/11
Posts: 1334

To busy playing GW2 to post much around here... *shrug*

4/19/12 2:24:44 PM#39
Originally posted by B1mble

Logged in tonight (EU Version) probably for the last time.  I have a character in each faction and both were ghost towns.  Have been trying to get a group for Oreshek now for 3 days with no luck. 

Just not enough players coming up to create a balanced group.  It has so far been a couple of scouts or one or two bards and thats it.

This game is dead and is just not bright enough to fall down.  Shame as it was one of the better ones (cash shop aside :S )

I don't even think its worth saying' give it a go its free' because the isolationist experience will not do it justice.

:(

 I haven't done anything on the EU servers, only US. The group quests can be a problem if you just start out now. I usually had to do them at higher level too on my alts, basically for the world mysteries. When you're several levels higher than the mobs it's quite eas. You don't need a full team if you can't simply solo the whole instance. A level makes a significant difference in this game.

  B1mble

Apprentice Member

Joined: 10/04/10
Posts: 151

4/23/12 2:07:29 PM#40
Originally posted by huskerman34

 And quit trying to delete the fb comments when someone spits the truth about this game. 

Lol  so true.

A strange thing happened on the way to the forum :P

On the EU site there is a post about upcoming updates such as new map graphics and auto pathing etc. 

Most of the commenters are either meh about the whole thing or are asking why time is being wasted on such an update when so many other things need fixing or adding.  A few are quite blunt.

My bro wrote a simple comment saying that, and I sort of quote, "hadn't they better concentrate on getting players instead of bimbling around with cosmetics".

According to him it took about an hour before the post was removed and he was temp banned for trolling.

I had warned him lol XD.

The result of all this is ... well ...meh to be perfectly honest.  For  a company to be blinkered about player concerns re the most crucial aspect of the game ie population, is just beyond belief. 

As we had both noticed, the game is dead.  The only people left are the high level players and maybe one or two alts.  This new update will not save the game, if anything the autopathing in itself will put so many off they will leave without downloading.

At the end of the day, it is not my brothers or my business so what do we care.  All we can say is goodbye and good luck to Allods.  Both of us have quit/uninstalled and it will take a miracle to get us back.

On top of all this, if Allods survives the release GW2 I will be genuinley surprised.

 

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