Originally posted by ariboersma

Originally posted by Ankur

Originally posted by Kuppa

It takes a lot of faith to put that amount of money into a game that has shown very little footage and there are minimal player experience articles out there. All the time they show the game is a press event because they haven't let the public get their hands on it on a wide open beta or test. They have some interesting ideas but unfortunately I have no clue how will they work in an unsupervised enviroment like press events. Sorry, but I don't have that much faith.

There is a lot of footage if you search for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ0IIX2_chA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVXMwWwgAhE&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZPS1SvmVHI&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YB2Vnyp89A&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW6bptkpXVo&feature=related

 

There are more but i found all this without even putting any effort into search.

thats almost all a year old or older... and it shows just how bad the game really is. That area discussed(after leaving Kingsmuth) is so bad.. the quests are ridiculous and boring, combat is terrible.. the only thing that is nice is the whole I forget the name I call them runes butt hats not right. Basically your armor.. pretty unique and the weapons are interesting, like a lighter is the focus for fire magic. However the heart of the game is flawed.. was a great idea gone terribly wrong.

There are latest footage too like i said earlier if you do search you will find videos from 2012 to, i just didn't put too much effort into search. Infact there is one 35 minute long video of gameplay from this very month.

Also i wouldn't knock it without playing it. it is hard to say how flawed the game is without even tryign it out.

Originally posted by Ankur

Originally posted by ariboersma

Originally posted by Ankur

Originally posted by Kuppa

It takes a lot of faith to put that amount of money into a game that has shown very little footage and there are minimal player experience articles out there. All the time they show the game is a press event because they haven't let the public get their hands on it on a wide open beta or test. They have some interesting ideas but unfortunately I have no clue how will they work in an unsupervised enviroment like press events. Sorry, but I don't have that much faith.

There is a lot of footage if you search for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ0IIX2_chA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVXMwWwgAhE&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZPS1SvmVHI&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YB2Vnyp89A&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW6bptkpXVo&feature=related

 

There are more but i found all this without even putting any effort into search.

thats almost all a year old or older... and it shows just how bad the game really is. That area discussed(after leaving Kingsmuth) is so bad.. the quests are ridiculous and boring, combat is terrible.. the only thing that is nice is the whole I forget the name I call them runes butt hats not right. Basically your armor.. pretty unique and the weapons are interesting, like a lighter is the focus for fire magic. However the heart of the game is flawed.. was a great idea gone terribly wrong.

There are latest footage too like i said earlier if you dos earch u will find videos from 2012 to, i just didn't put too much effort into search.

Also i wouldn't knock it before playing it. it is hard to say how flawed the game is without even tryign it out.

There is 2012 footage. None of it is of people actually playing the game outside a specific spot that developers wanted them to play. If the game is so close to release why would'nt they have done a beta before getting ppl to put money on the game? I don't know if its just me but I am not putting any money of a game I haven't at the very least seen gameplay of that is not staged.

Originally posted by Kuppa

Originally posted by Ankur

Originally posted by ariboersma

Originally posted by Ankur

Originally posted by Kuppa

It takes a lot of faith to put that amount of money into a game that has shown very little footage and there are minimal player experience articles out there. All the time they show the game is a press event because they haven't let the public get their hands on it on a wide open beta or test. They have some interesting ideas but unfortunately I have no clue how will they work in an unsupervised enviroment like press events. Sorry, but I don't have that much faith.

There is a lot of footage if you search for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ0IIX2_chA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVXMwWwgAhE&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZPS1SvmVHI&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YB2Vnyp89A&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW6bptkpXVo&feature=related

 

There are more but i found all this without even putting any effort into search.

thats almost all a year old or older... and it shows just how bad the game really is. That area discussed(after leaving Kingsmuth) is so bad.. the quests are ridiculous and boring, combat is terrible.. the only thing that is nice is the whole I forget the name I call them runes butt hats not right. Basically your armor.. pretty unique and the weapons are interesting, like a lighter is the focus for fire magic. However the heart of the game is flawed.. was a great idea gone terribly wrong.

There are latest footage too like i said earlier if you dos earch u will find videos from 2012 to, i just didn't put too much effort into search.

Also i wouldn't knock it before playing it. it is hard to say how flawed the game is without even tryign it out.

There is 2012 footage. None of it is of people actually playing the game outside a specific spot that developers wanted them to play. If the game is so close to release why would'nt they have done a beta before getting ppl to put money on the game? I don't know if its just me but I am not putting any money of a game I haven't at the very least seen gameplay of that is not staged.

I am going to try beta before i throw money on lifetime sub. I haven't made up my mind about purchase yet but i never put too much faith in gameplay videos anyways because experince is completely different when you play it yourself.

Originally posted by dageeza

I am not a funcom fan and dislike the way they consistantly nickel and slime their customers so i would never pre-purchase a game or even a lifetime sub from them..

With that said if i were a fan and liked fukcoms games which i generally dont due to constant changes i would not hesitate to buy in because every game they have made is still operational so they if nothing else have that going for them..

 

Sony once was my least favorite but their lastest efforts have took me from scowling to dubious and closer to apprehensive..

With funcom i am not sure there is anything they can do to change the way i feel about them and their products, i would warn all funcom fans to be prepared for disappointment and frustration as it is the fukcom way to always without fail overhype their game to the point it cannot possibly live up to it, beware doctored pics and vids as well...

I have given Funcom credit where it has earned it. That is, their games are still online and they can be fun. I have spent time in their games and enjoyed them a lot. Especaily Anarchy Online.

However, he's telling the truth about doctored videos. Take a look at this recent release regarding their new engine for AO. But don't look at what they are trying to show you, instead look at how over the top they are with all the light rays, fog, dust, smoke and flashy effects.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pGIMS7E3ugU

Originally posted by Ankur

Originally posted by ariboersma

Originally posted by Ankur

Originally posted by Kuppa

It takes a lot of faith to put that amount of money into a game that has shown very little footage and there are minimal player experience articles out there. All the time they show the game is a press event because they haven't let the public get their hands on it on a wide open beta or test. They have some interesting ideas but unfortunately I have no clue how will they work in an unsupervised enviroment like press events. Sorry, but I don't have that much faith.

There is a lot of footage if you search for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ0IIX2_chA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVXMwWwgAhE&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZPS1SvmVHI&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YB2Vnyp89A&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW6bptkpXVo&feature=related

 

There are more but i found all this without even putting any effort into search.

thats almost all a year old or older... and it shows just how bad the game really is. That area discussed(after leaving Kingsmuth) is so bad.. the quests are ridiculous and boring, combat is terrible.. the only thing that is nice is the whole I forget the name I call them runes butt hats not right. Basically your armor.. pretty unique and the weapons are interesting, like a lighter is the focus for fire magic. However the heart of the game is flawed.. was a great idea gone terribly wrong.

There are latest footage too like i said earlier if you do search you will find videos from 2012 to, i just didn't put too much effort into search. Infact there is one 35 minute long video of gameplay from this very month.

Also i wouldn't knock it without playing it. it is hard to say how flawed the game is without even tryign it out.

why would you think I haven't played it... NDA! all I can say >.<

Originally posted by ariboersma

Originally posted by Ankur

Originally posted by ariboersma

Originally posted by Ankur

Originally posted by Kuppa

It takes a lot of faith to put that amount of money into a game that has shown very little footage and there are minimal player experience articles out there. All the time they show the game is a press event because they haven't let the public get their hands on it on a wide open beta or test. They have some interesting ideas but unfortunately I have no clue how will they work in an unsupervised enviroment like press events. Sorry, but I don't have that much faith.

There is a lot of footage if you search for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ0IIX2_chA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVXMwWwgAhE&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZPS1SvmVHI&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YB2Vnyp89A&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW6bptkpXVo&feature=related

 

There are more but i found all this without even putting any effort into search.

thats almost all a year old or older... and it shows just how bad the game really is. That area discussed(after leaving Kingsmuth) is so bad.. the quests are ridiculous and boring, combat is terrible.. the only thing that is nice is the whole I forget the name I call them runes butt hats not right. Basically your armor.. pretty unique and the weapons are interesting, like a lighter is the focus for fire magic. However the heart of the game is flawed.. was a great idea gone terribly wrong.

There are latest footage too like i said earlier if you do search you will find videos from 2012 to, i just didn't put too much effort into search. Infact there is one 35 minute long video of gameplay from this very month.

Also i wouldn't knock it without playing it. it is hard to say how flawed the game is without even tryign it out.

why would you think I haven't played it... NDA! all I can say >.<

Because you anyways said a lot;) NDA means you are not even supposed to talk about NDA ;)

Originally posted by Ankur

Originally posted by ariboersma

Originally posted by Ankur

Originally posted by ariboersma

Originally posted by Ankur

Originally posted by Kuppa

It takes a lot of faith to put that amount of money into a game that has shown very little footage and there are minimal player experience articles out there. All the time they show the game is a press event because they haven't let the public get their hands on it on a wide open beta or test. They have some interesting ideas but unfortunately I have no clue how will they work in an unsupervised enviroment like press events. Sorry, but I don't have that much faith.

There is a lot of footage if you search for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ0IIX2_chA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVXMwWwgAhE&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZPS1SvmVHI&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YB2Vnyp89A&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW6bptkpXVo&feature=related

 

There are more but i found all this without even putting any effort into search.

thats almost all a year old or older... and it shows just how bad the game really is. That area discussed(after leaving Kingsmuth) is so bad.. the quests are ridiculous and boring, combat is terrible.. the only thing that is nice is the whole I forget the name I call them runes butt hats not right. Basically your armor.. pretty unique and the weapons are interesting, like a lighter is the focus for fire magic. However the heart of the game is flawed.. was a great idea gone terribly wrong.

There are latest footage too like i said earlier if you do search you will find videos from 2012 to, i just didn't put too much effort into search. Infact there is one 35 minute long video of gameplay from this very month.

Also i wouldn't knock it without playing it. it is hard to say how flawed the game is without even tryign it out.

why would you think I haven't played it... NDA! all I can say >.<

Because you anyways said a lot;) NDA means you are not even supposed to talk about NDA ;)

I am pretty sure you can say there is an NDA....

well i will , when i get the cash. sad but true.

sometime ago i was really intrested in this game, and sometime ago i would drop money on any game and even have stretched to the lifetime sub, my last waste was the ToR's ce - even though i still play the ce was a rip off lol

but this year times are harder and with so many mmo's coming at a similar time i have to pick one as i cant afford all of them or have the time to put in.

after careful consideration over Tera, mists of panda's, secret world and guild wars 2 im gonna hang around and dump my coin into GW2

Originally posted by ariboersma

Originally posted by Ankur

Originally posted by ariboersma

Originally posted by Ankur

Originally posted by ariboersma

Originally posted by Ankur

Originally posted by Kuppa

It takes a lot of faith to put that amount of money into a game that has shown very little footage and there are minimal player experience articles out there. All the time they show the game is a press event because they haven't let the public get their hands on it on a wide open beta or test. They have some interesting ideas but unfortunately I have no clue how will they work in an unsupervised enviroment like press events. Sorry, but I don't have that much faith.

There is a lot of footage if you search for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ0IIX2_chA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVXMwWwgAhE&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZPS1SvmVHI&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YB2Vnyp89A&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW6bptkpXVo&feature=related

 

There are more but i found all this without even putting any effort into search.

thats almost all a year old or older... and it shows just how bad the game really is. That area discussed(after leaving Kingsmuth) is so bad.. the quests are ridiculous and boring, combat is terrible.. the only thing that is nice is the whole I forget the name I call them runes butt hats not right. Basically your armor.. pretty unique and the weapons are interesting, like a lighter is the focus for fire magic. However the heart of the game is flawed.. was a great idea gone terribly wrong.

There are latest footage too like i said earlier if you do search you will find videos from 2012 to, i just didn't put too much effort into search. Infact there is one 35 minute long video of gameplay from this very month.

Also i wouldn't knock it without playing it. it is hard to say how flawed the game is without even tryign it out.

why would you think I haven't played it... NDA! all I can say >.<

Because you anyways said a lot;) NDA means you are not even supposed to talk about NDA ;)

I am pretty sure you can say there is an NDA....

I am fairly sure that their NDA says you can't say NDA. because you cant' admit that you are in Beta under the NDA in the 1st place. You have clearly implied that you are in the beta.

 

I am truly not trying to be a jerk, please don't think I am, but I am just telling you that you should consider being more careful.

I have no idea who you really are, but that doesn't mean someone can't figure it out somewhere. (someone you know)

Originally posted by Cinge

There is a reason FC is giving so many "pay extra" options before the release. They have failed twice now, they know their reputation is complete crap. The fact the offered all these extra options for more $ ( on top of box and sub fees) shows to me they are just trying to get as much money as they can right away. They probably don't have a lot of confidence themselves in their own game.

 

      FUncom learned with both of their previous titles to get as much as you can BEFORE the game launches....What still amazes me is how many gamers will just hand over money blindly without hardly knowing a single thing about what they are buying.

Originally posted by GeezerGamer

Originally posted by ariboersma

Originally posted by Ankur

Originally posted by ariboersma

Originally posted by Ankur

Originally posted by ariboersma

Originally posted by Ankur

Originally posted by Kuppa

It takes a lot of faith to put that amount of money into a game that has shown very little footage and there are minimal player experience articles out there. All the time they show the game is a press event because they haven't let the public get their hands on it on a wide open beta or test. They have some interesting ideas but unfortunately I have no clue how will they work in an unsupervised enviroment like press events. Sorry, but I don't have that much faith.

There is a lot of footage if you search for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ0IIX2_chA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVXMwWwgAhE&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZPS1SvmVHI&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YB2Vnyp89A&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW6bptkpXVo&feature=related

 

There are more but i found all this without even putting any effort into search.

thats almost all a year old or older... and it shows just how bad the game really is. That area discussed(after leaving Kingsmuth) is so bad.. the quests are ridiculous and boring, combat is terrible.. the only thing that is nice is the whole I forget the name I call them runes butt hats not right. Basically your armor.. pretty unique and the weapons are interesting, like a lighter is the focus for fire magic. However the heart of the game is flawed.. was a great idea gone terribly wrong.

There are latest footage too like i said earlier if you do search you will find videos from 2012 to, i just didn't put too much effort into search. Infact there is one 35 minute long video of gameplay from this very month.

Also i wouldn't knock it without playing it. it is hard to say how flawed the game is without even tryign it out.

why would you think I haven't played it... NDA! all I can say >.<

Because you anyways said a lot;) NDA means you are not even supposed to talk about NDA ;)

I am pretty sure you can say there is an NDA....

I am fairly sure that their NDA says you can't say NDA. because you cant' admit that you are in Beta under the NDA in the 1st place. You have clearly implied that you are in the beta.

 

I am truly not trying to be a jerk, please don't think I am, but I am just telling you that you should consider being more careful.

I have no idea who you really are, but that doesn't mean someone can't figure it out somewhere. (someone you know)

actually I said I cant say because of NDA, everything I said was visible in the vids listed. I dont imply anything here I meant that you shouldn't assume that I hadn't played.. especially when I can't say if I had because of NDA ;)

Maybe he did what I did,  I played it for a little bit at a pax afterparty with no NDA

Actually you are right.. funcom HAS infact learned from their previous releases and are in position to revolutionize the genre.. something i am certain scares the crap out of most of you eho have spewn nothing but bad vibes and troll bait... god forbid youde have to learn a different way to play an mmo.. gw2 offers you the same wow clone crap you all complain about but un mindlessly to as the "way it should be" you talk about no informatinlon or hype being releaseed when in fact much detail has been.. i also think fc hasnt hyped their game to those who were mmo-born in the WoW era... thats not their target demographic. Will the game go free to play? Its not even a question that should ne asked... the game hasnt released.. thus , many of your points are extremely bias, and linear, much like the way many of you game. Anyways i guess we will see which upcoming mmo offers the chang of pace which MANY OF US seek.

Originally posted by maitrader

Sup guys,

 

I have been a long-time fan of Funcom... unlike many people who nitt-pick the crap out of funcom and their games, it truly is the ONLY company to offer something different and revolutionary to the genre with each game... We need more FUNCOMS ... not more Blizzards and Anets... I dont make tons of money, but I wanted to support funcom for trying a brand new spin on the genre through TSW... such balls (regardless of whether it works or not) deserves to be supported.. especially in a genre full of clones trying to be EQ or WoW... This game is being done unlike any game before its time.. for the amount of time they have been working on it (4 - 5 years anyone?), I believe this game will be good at launch, and spectacular in time. WHO ELSE BOUGHT LifeTime?!

Honestly "different" I would have to say is relative to the person viewing the rpoduct because Funcom doesn't strike me as revolutionary in the least.  While the first mmo they made certainly had a different setting I don't know of anything that really sets it apart from other mmo's in terms of actual gameplay.  and AOC in theme and in many game play elements offers not much different than some of the games and companies you dismiss.  I like the concept that I've seen surrounding TSW but it hasn't blown me away by any stretch.

But these to me aren't even Funcoms biggest problems what are is the history of the mmo releases they have had problems abound from the beginning in both and some of the other problems faced by AOC went further to me like advertised features on the box not being in game and so much of the story elements dropping out after tortage while reviews hardly touched on anything beyond it (not sure if the company restricted this but i seem to remember them as having done so).

I wish them luck with this game but when companies like SOE release\ing statements claiming to have always intended to go free to play with DCUO after having taken so much money from customers I can't see myself throwing away money with a company that has shown itself to be less than forthcoming on multiple occasions.

I hope it works out for all who pre ordered but it's far too big a risk given who we are talking about.

Originally posted by maitrader
Actually you are right.. funcom HAS infact learned from their previous releases and are in position to revolutionize the genre.. something i am certain scares the crap out of most of you eho have spewn nothing but bad vibes and troll bait... god forbid youde have to learn a different way to play an mmo.. gw2 offers you the same wow clone crap you all complain about but un mindlessly to as the "way it should be" you talk about no informatinlon or hype being releaseed when in fact much detail has been.. i also think fc hasnt hyped their game to those who were mmo-born in the WoW era... thats not their target demographic. Will the game go free to play? Its not even a question that should ne asked... the game hasnt released.. thus , many of your points are extremely bias, and linear, much like the way many of you game. Anyways i guess we will see which upcoming mmo offers the chang of pace which MANY OF US seek.

In fact implies you are talking about something that has proof behind it and to my knowledge we are still waiting for Funcom to have a first smooth release so how do you know they have learned anything?

If they have a successful this release maybe you could say that in regards to the next game after TSW but that would still give them one successful release compared to two crappy ones.

Nothing wrong with you having faith but your faith doesn't automatically become absolute no matter how hard you believe.

I cant remember the launch if any mmo being spectaular... they all lack in some area... if its not buggy, it has no content and is easily branded as a wos clone or korean grindfest. It is usual for complex games to have difficult launches.. AO was exactly that. No other mmo requored the brains that AO took.. also in AoC it took quite a bit of skill to pvp effectively, something people werent used to.. yes indeecld every game they have released has been different and definitely not Ez mode

If you fork out $200+ for ANYTHING your yet to even see outside of developer/press marketing you are the sole reason why the MMO genre has bcome nothing more than a bait and switch cash grab. Congrats.

Originally posted by maitrader
Actually you are right.. funcom HAS infact learned from their previous releases and are in position to revolutionize the genre.. something i am certain scares the crap out of most of you eho have spewn nothing but bad vibes and troll bait... god forbid youde have to learn a different way to play an mmo.. gw2 offers you the same wow clone crap you all complain about but un mindlessly to as the "way it should be" you talk about no informatinlon or hype being releaseed when in fact much detail has been.. i also think fc hasnt hyped their game to those who were mmo-born in the WoW era... thats not their target demographic. Will the game go free to play? Its not even a question that should ne asked... the game hasnt released.. thus , many of your points are extremely bias, and linear, much like the way many of you game. Anyways i guess we will see which upcoming mmo offers the chang of pace which MANY OF US seek.

How do you know they have learned from their previous releases? where is the proof of that? seems like we would have to wait until TSW is released to even talk about them learning anything.

"Much detail has been released"...lets examine, you know alot about how the game is supposed to work. You have seen montages of developers playing the game or taking other people through specific parts of the game, which actually dont look that groundbreaking at all. Have you seen any footage of people enjoying the game by themselves, doing what they want and trying out the game's ideas on their own? Have you seen articles from people doing that?

I pre-ordered on day one, but even being a fan of Funcom, i didn't go for lifetime.   Fact is that there are plenty of reasons why I may not end up sticking with the game.  For example, while I quite enjoyed AoC at launch and played it for a few months, it simply turned out to be a lot more PvP-focused than I like in my games.  Nothing wrong with that as I'm sure many people enjoy PvP, however, i do not, so because the game had more of a PvP focus, it ended up being not for me.  

 

I see the same potential with TSW.   There is a lot of talk of 3-way PvP and massive battles and such.. if this ends up being the focus of the game, I probably won't stick around.  I enjoy PvE and buy MMOs to partake in PvE.  So for me to stay with a game for more than a year, it needs to be heavily PvE focused.

 

Now, if funcom ever announces AO2, i'm willing to pay $200 for lifetime based on announcement alone :)