Originally posted by DaSpack

Just twittered with my Beta friend again. he is very loyal to the NDA, but I was able to get two things.. The game is really stable.... And *drums*, they have apparently started to test on the crafting system. He said it's supposedly OMG Good!!

Feeling that I am getting a bit hyped :). Looking forward to this now.

I will be able to confirm that, since i FUCKING FINALLY GOT INTO FUCKING BETA!

FUCK!

YEAH!

Soon...all games will release soon....

I'm gonna state the obvious....

They should release when they feel they have a game they can truly be proud of.

Whenever it's truly ready to be released.

When it's done ;)

Originally posted by AdamTM

Originally posted by DaSpack

Just twittered with my Beta friend again. he is very loyal to the NDA, but I was able to get two things.. The game is really stable.... And *drums*, they have apparently started to test on the crafting system. He said it's supposedly OMG Good!!

Feeling that I am getting a bit hyped :). Looking forward to this now.

I will be able to confirm that, since i FUCKING FINALLY GOT INTO FUCKING BETA!

 

FUCK!

YEAH!

SS's, FRAPS or it didnt happen!

Originally posted by DannyGlover

 

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Originally posted by BilboDoggins
The problem with the April-July timeframe is that this will almost certainly put TSW into direct compeition with GW2 (suspected June release) and possibly even Diablo 3. Both of these games will likely suck any kind of momentum out of TSW and if the game isnt ready and Funcom releases it TSW is basically DOA.

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I think The Secret World and Guild Wars 2 are complimentary MMOs. They seem very different from each other in terms of setting, combat, graphics, and story. I don't think one would really affect the other in terms of demographic overlap.
There are people that have made up their minds to play one or the other, and there are people that have made up their minds to play neither or both. They could release on the same day and that wont change.
The potential customers that are on the fence will make their decisions based on impulse which is usually graphics and setting which GW2 and TSW are worlds apart.

edit: added the quote I was replying to.

I disagree they are both themeparks that are not wow clones, which puts them in a group of two

They also have simiilar half way between traditional mmo and more action orientated game combat

They also have 3 faction persistent PVP

"When should Funcom release TSW?"

How about when it's ready and not when budget demands that it's ready.

I picked August-September. It's getting too close to April with little news for that date to realistically hold. I'm sure every single employee at Funcom is painfully aware of their reputation for early releases and would rather not three-peat on that dubious honor.

If they turn around and say "hey, we need to hold off on that April release date for a few more months to get everything right", I can't imagine any serious backlash from the playerbase, who would much rather have a playabe fun game from the get-go.

Also ... Ragnar Tornquist. I somehow doubt he'll let TSW out into the world before he thinks it's golden.

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Originally posted by ShakyMo

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Originally posted by DannyGlover
 

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Originally posted by BilboDoggins
The problem with the April-July timeframe is that this will almost certainly put TSW into direct compeition with GW2 (suspected June release) and possibly even Diablo 3. Both of these games will likely suck any kind of momentum out of TSW and if the game isnt ready and Funcom releases it TSW is basically DOA.

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I think The Secret World and Guild Wars 2 are complimentary MMOs. They seem very different from each other in terms of setting, combat, graphics, and story. I don't think one would really affect the other in terms of demographic overlap.
There are people that have made up their minds to play one or the other, and there are people that have made up their minds to play neither or both. They could release on the same day and that wont change.
The potential customers that are on the fence will make their decisions based on impulse which is usually graphics and setting which GW2 and TSW are worlds apart.
edit: added the quote I was replying to.

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I disagree they are both themeparks that are not wow clones, which puts them in a group of two
They also have simiilar half way between traditional mmo and more action orientated game combat
They also have 3 faction persistent PVP

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Originally posted by DannyGlover

 

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Originally posted by ShakyMo

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Originally posted by DannyGlover
 

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Originally posted by BilboDoggins
The problem with the April-July timeframe is that this will almost certainly put TSW into direct compeition with GW2 (suspected June release) and possibly even Diablo 3. Both of these games will likely suck any kind of momentum out of TSW and if the game isnt ready and Funcom releases it TSW is basically DOA.

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I think The Secret World and Guild Wars 2 are complimentary MMOs. They seem very different from each other in terms of setting, combat, graphics, and story. I don't think one would really affect the other in terms of demographic overlap.
There are people that have made up their minds to play one or the other, and there are people that have made up their minds to play neither or both. They could release on the same day and that wont change.
The potential customers that are on the fence will make their decisions based on impulse which is usually graphics and setting which GW2 and TSW are worlds apart.
edit: added the quote I was replying to.

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I disagree they are both themeparks that are not wow clones, which puts them in a group of two
They also have simiilar half way between traditional mmo and more action orientated game combat
They also have 3 faction persistent PVP

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True but you cant ignore the fact that GW2 is a high fantasy action mmo with esport pvp and levels while TSW is a modern day deck based mmo with no levels. For those of us that love the genre, we will be getting both. For those that will pick just one, the demographics seem to be quite varied.

 

I don't think the fantasy thing is that importantant.

I can see a GW2 fan liking the concept of TSW more than they like say the concept of RIFT, because the "not wow" thing is a stronger pull to GW2 than the fantasy setting.

both have action like combat.

TSW has a ranked arena, but wont be full on e"sport" a good thing imo.  GW2 calles the WvWvW "casual PVP", TSW calls the warzones "endgame PVP"

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Originally posted by ShakyMo
I don't think the fantasy thing is that importantant.
I can see a GW2 fan liking the concept of TSW more than they like say the concept of RIFT, because the "not wow" thing is a stronger pull to GW2 than the fantasy setting.

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I'm interested in why you think that. I know a few people that are attracted to TSW because of the non fantasy setting primarily. I tend to agree. If you make an MMO that is not high fantasy, you are in the minority. People are interested in your game just because its not the norm in that regard.

April.  Most TOR players will be done with that game and ready for something new, so it's good time from a marketing perspective.

From a development perspective, later is always better.. but well know that releases are driven by marketing and not development :)

How about april.

Like they said.

When its done.

I'd rather they delay it and put everything in that needs to be there and do a proper bug-hunt.

April. EA just started a few days back advertising for TSW with launch date April under coming-soon section.

http://www.ea.com/coming-soon

I guess exact date comes later.

When its ready.

I wish Funcom would adopt this like ArenaNet & others have. The EA overlords probably have other ideas.

1. april 2012 like they allready anounced ?

When it's ready

when it's done.

or how about april 16, my birthday.