Sorry if this has been asked but I dont see crafting on the mainsite but I do see sugested in an article here which clearly doenst mean anything.

anyway, is there no crafting?

There will be crafting, but the only thing we know about it is that it will be somewhat sandparkish...

Originally posted by Hycoo

There will be crafting, but the only thing we know about it is that it will be somewhat sandparkish...

What does that mean??? Sandparkish???

No idea

Still vague, but it's going to be a bit like crafting in Minecraft. That's all I know, since the developer wasn't allowed to say anything more at the time. It was 95% finished, so I think we will hear more about it shortly. ;)

Next phase of beta just started now. This baby is getting close to release.

I've heard that Crafting is part of this. Crafting are supposedly very inspired by that minecraft approach.. Verrrry interesting. Hope MMORPG can dig our some news on this soon.

Sorry never played minecraft can you please elaborate on what you mean??

Originally posted by profess0r

Sorry never played minecraft can you please elaborate on what you mean??

It's hard to explain.. But it is very sandboxish.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minecraft

sandboxish , mincraftish or not I am skeptical about the entire crafting engine being left to what appears to me to be last consideration. It seems like its

'oh wow look at this great game and all its features, come to our booth and check it out!'

'what about crafting?'

'oh yeah we have nothing to show they are working on it but its going to be the deepest ever...next question?;'

'how is the kung fu animation?'

'oh yeah its AWWWWESOME, come here and check this out!'

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

sandboxish , mincraftish or not I am skeptical about the entire crafting engine being left to what appears to me to be last consideration. It seems like its

'oh wow look at this great game and all its features, come to our booth and check it out!'

'what about crafting?'

'oh yeah we have nothing to show they are working on it but its going to be the deepest ever...next question?;'

'how is the kung fu animation?'

'oh yeah its AWWWWESOME, come here and check this out!'

I heard it from a developer that crafting is something they have put a lot of time into, not some last minute effort. I have no idea where you are getting that thought from? Sounds like you are just speculating because they haven't released any information about it.

Originally posted by Blackbrrd

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

sandboxish , mincraftish or not I am skeptical about the entire crafting engine being left to what appears to me to be last consideration. It seems like its

'oh wow look at this great game and all its features, come to our booth and check it out!'

'what about crafting?'

'oh yeah we have nothing to show they are working on it but its going to be the deepest ever...next question?;'

'how is the kung fu animation?'

'oh yeah its AWWWWESOME, come here and check this out!'

I heard it from a developer that crafting is something they have put a lot of time into, not some last minute effort. I have no idea where you are getting that thought from? Sounds like you are just speculating because they haven't released any information about it.

I think I have already said where I got that idea from. If you go to their website they have a nice page describing all the features EXECPT for crafting, which I might add was similar to my experience when I first went to the WoW website when it first came out...so I am just being cautious 

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

Originally posted by Blackbrrd

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

sandboxish , mincraftish or not I am skeptical about the entire crafting engine being left to what appears to me to be last consideration. It seems like its

'oh wow look at this great game and all its features, come to our booth and check it out!'

'what about crafting?'

'oh yeah we have nothing to show they are working on it but its going to be the deepest ever...next question?;'

'how is the kung fu animation?'

'oh yeah its AWWWWESOME, come here and check this out!'

I heard it from a developer that crafting is something they have put a lot of time into, not some last minute effort. I have no idea where you are getting that thought from? Sounds like you are just speculating because they haven't released any information about it.

I think I have already said where I got that idea from. If you go to their website they have a nice page describing all the features EXECPT for crafting, which I might add was similar to my experience when I first went to the WoW website when it first came out...so I am just being cautious 

Yeah I can see your angle here. Was expecting it to be in the current beta phase that started yesterday, but it seems they are focusing on adding new areas. Anyway, it's a sure thing they are adding crafting.

Originally posted by Blackbrrd

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

sandboxish , mincraftish or not I am skeptical about the entire crafting engine being left to what appears to me to be last consideration. It seems like its

'oh wow look at this great game and all its features, come to our booth and check it out!'

'what about crafting?'

'oh yeah we have nothing to show they are working on it but its going to be the deepest ever...next question?;'

'how is the kung fu animation?'

'oh yeah its AWWWWESOME, come here and check this out!'

I heard it from a developer that crafting is something they have put a lot of time into, not some last minute effort. I have no idea where you are getting that thought from? Sounds like you are just speculating because they haven't released any information about it.

I agree with Blackbird. Crafting system of TSW is supposed to be massive, inventive (but inspired by Minecraft though) and an important part of the game... No need to be negative SEANMCAD about something that still has not been revealed. Very odd assumption also by the way.. Because they have not revealed this earlier it's something they are just blobbing together at last moment.

Just spoke to some guy that early access Beta tested TSW, he say that the TSW crafting is so revolutionary that it will change the way it's done for the future. He believes part of the reason they do not want to share it is because they want to keep it under NDA as long as possible.

I still can't get a good read on gear in general in this game.  I heard that cloth will be appearance only with no stats but will there be other stat items?  If not will crafting be pretty much for fluff or will useful things be avaialbe?

Originally posted by udon

I still can't get a good read on gear in general in this game.  I heard that cloth will be appearance only with no stats but will there be other stat items?  If not will crafting be pretty much for fluff or will useful things be avaialbe?

Clothing is for fashion only.. Some clothing also give braging rights also as some styles only are available after achieving a certain amount of rank within your faction. In other words clothing have none impact on gameplay. Weapons and items on the other hand have impact on the game. This can also be crafted... But the secrecy about how this sandboxish style crafting is have prevented me from getting a full overview. All I have heard is that it is GOOD. really Godd. And will most likely become one of the major selling points of the game.

Originally posted by DaSpack

Originally posted by udon

I still can't get a good read on gear in general in this game.  I heard that cloth will be appearance only with no stats but will there be other stat items?  If not will crafting be pretty much for fluff or will useful things be avaialbe?

Clothing is for fashion only.. Some clothing also give braging rights also as some styles only are available after achieving a certain amount of rank within your faction. In other words clothing have none impact on gameplay. Weapons and items on the other hand have impact on the game. This can also be crafted... But the secrecy about how this sandboxish style crafting is have prevented me from getting a full overview. All I have heard is that it is GOOD. really Godd. And will most likely become one of the major selling points of the game.

Its not sounding very promising. I mean developers not giving specifics and then specifics clearly being removed (like clothings will just be just fashion) doesnt sound very promising.

For me it crafting on a personal level need to be on par with fallen earth and group level crafting should exist as well for it to be of much intrest to me.

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

Originally posted by DaSpack

Originally posted by udon

I still can't get a good read on gear in general in this game.  I heard that cloth will be appearance only with no stats but will there be other stat items?  If not will crafting be pretty much for fluff or will useful things be avaialbe?

Clothing is for fashion only.. Some clothing also give braging rights also as some styles only are available after achieving a certain amount of rank within your faction. In other words clothing have none impact on gameplay. Weapons and items on the other hand have impact on the game. This can also be crafted... But the secrecy about how this sandboxish style crafting is have prevented me from getting a full overview. All I have heard is that it is GOOD. really Godd. And will most likely become one of the major selling points of the game.

Its not sounding very promising. I mean developers not giving specifics and then specifics clearly being removed (like clothings will just be just fashion) doesnt sound very promising.

For me it crafting on a personal level need to be on par with fallen earth and group level crafting should exist as well for it to be of much intrest to me.

We have very oposite  opinions of things then. I just can't see that it would be a good thing to make people wear armor in a modern game. I mean I would just make a siw out of your plate armor with my AK47 armor piercing bullets.. The system basically caters to the fact that if you get shot it's bad. It would be hillarious if people would run around in NY modern day with arnor and huge fcking WOW shoulders.

I guess there will be mechanisms that can give you better protection.. but it will not be armor thats for sure. And thank god for that. Have nothing against armor, but that is something that belong in midevial games like AoC not TSW.

Originally posted by DaSpack

Originally posted by udon

I still can't get a good read on gear in general in this game.  I heard that cloth will be appearance only with no stats but will there be other stat items?  If not will crafting be pretty much for fluff or will useful things be avaialbe?

Clothing is for fashion only.. Some clothing also give braging rights also as some styles only are available after achieving a certain amount of rank within your faction. In other words clothing have none impact on gameplay. Weapons and items on the other hand have impact on the game. This can also be crafted... But the secrecy about how this sandboxish style crafting is have prevented me from getting a full overview. All I have heard is that it is GOOD. really Godd. And will most likely become one of the major selling points of the game.

The next logical step for crafting would be the abilty to customize the reciept though adding different components to make new items or items with focused stats.  Something like that could be really cool.

I have always imagined a game where crafters protect their best receipts like trade secrets would be pretty cool. At least if you are one of the people who can find a really vauluable receipt that only a few know how to make.

Crafting plays a very distant backseat to Raiding/Group instnaces in modern MMO's.  I wouldn't be unhappy in the least if they tried to at least level the playing field a bit.

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

Originally posted by DaSpack

Originally posted by udon

I still can't get a good read on gear in general in this game.  I heard that cloth will be appearance only with no stats but will there be other stat items?  If not will crafting be pretty much for fluff or will useful things be avaialbe?

Clothing is for fashion only.. Some clothing also give braging rights also as some styles only are available after achieving a certain amount of rank within your faction. In other words clothing have none impact on gameplay. Weapons and items on the other hand have impact on the game. This can also be crafted... But the secrecy about how this sandboxish style crafting is have prevented me from getting a full overview. All I have heard is that it is GOOD. really Godd. And will most likely become one of the major selling points of the game.

Its not sounding very promising. I mean developers not giving specifics and then specifics clearly being removed (like clothings will just be just fashion) doesnt sound very promising.

For me it crafting on a personal level need to be on par with fallen earth and group level crafting should exist as well for it to be of much intrest to me.

Jumping to conclusions again are we?

Clothing will be only appearance, no stats, that's true and it makes sense. Would be pretty weird with the t-shirt of +5 armor?

The stats will be on "chakras" or implants if you like, that aren't visible.

That way every character can look different which makes a lot of sense in a game set in the 21st century.