Originally posted by cura

Originally posted by Dakeru

Originally posted by channel84

 

The Game

-Great dialog script (not your typical bioware VO)

What dialogues? I remember my char was mute.

And great? It surely is a matter of taste but i definitely prefer SWTORs dialogs. Never skipped one i SWTOR but some of TSWs make me want to becouse they are just plain boring. Sometimes i feel like i am watching a family tv series.

Total oppoite for me, i fonud myself wanting to skip the SWTOR stuff right from the start... I have gone through the starter areas in TSW about 3 times now and only skip if im in a group..

The characters in Secret World, so far, have character. While some like the internet meme-spounter can be quite annoying, they still have character. My player character does not have character, he's just a cog. This doesn't make the VO better or worse, just different.

As far as lifetime sub...well...if you are a completionist...I think it might take you quite a bit of time to do ALL of the content. Even with the most scarce play schedule, I doubt it'd take a year. Anarchy Online has had 2? expansions, and AoC has had one...so it's not like they bury you in new content at any point.

Originally posted by Ikeda

Seriously, even the die hard fans are saying they'll only be playing for 2-3 months.

Not what I'm seeing at all.  Care to site some sources of 'die hard' fans saying this?

Originally posted by VultureSkull

OMG it is as if GW2 is the second coming (WoW being the first ofc).  Ill give it 2 months before it becomes as boring as all the rest.

I found your comments quite comical and ridicules tbh, as for lasting two months or so then I feel you are either naive or just a plain idiot. I predict it will end up the same as GW1, which if my memory serves me well is still running strongly to this day. But then I live in reality and not fantasy unlike many...I also feel you are being a little judgemental and a tad bias, as it's plane to see you like TSW atm and that's cool ofc, whatever floats your boat! But it will be interesting to see if you feel the same way about TSW in a few months time, we will see...

I am still playing GW1 and while it has many shortfalls it's still a bunch of fun to pick up and drop as and when I feel like and ofc it's FREE unlike TSW. I've been hanging around like many others for something fresh to play that is still in fantasy, but sadly there is little about atm, hence why I'm still playing Vanguard until GW2 pops out next month.

Funcom is not my favourite company after their last two lots of work they produced and whilst it appears that TSW has made them a little more credible, they still have a long way to go in my eyes personally and one game does not make a company amazing over night, so you would expect them to get it right third time round or sink, maybe their ex CEO knows something we don't ;)

So TSW has far more to prove than GW2 I my humble opinion and on track record I know which comes out on top for sure and should I have to buy either game TSW would not be my first choice and box for box I think I know which will shift more units too.

Enjoy your gaming,

Bandit

Originally posted by jdnyc

Originally posted by Ikeda

Seriously, even the die hard fans are saying they'll only be playing for 2-3 months.

Not what I'm seeing at all.  Care to site some sources of 'die hard' fans saying this?

This 1100+ post long thread for life time subscribers says people are expecting to play the game more than 2-3 months. ;)

http://forums.thesecretworld.com/showthread.php?t=26041&highlight=life+time

Seeing how bad lifetime subs have been through this would not be ideal anyhow.  Games recently out and unless lifetime subs are always an option during its life span i do not see any good comming from this.

If the lifetime sub is for a limited time then its just another money grab.

You'd have to be insane to buy a lifetime sub for this, but you're free to waste your money.

Originally posted by Blackbrrd

Originally posted by jdnyc

Originally posted by Ikeda

Seriously, even the die hard fans are saying they'll only be playing for 2-3 months.

Not what I'm seeing at all.  Care to site some sources of 'die hard' fans saying this?

This 1100+ post long thread for life time subscribers says people are expecting to play the game more than 2-3 months. ;)

http://forums.thesecretworld.com/showthread.php?t=26041&highlight=life+time

That's my point black.  Ikeda is saying the opposite.  :)  I mean who buys a lifetime sub thinking they'll only play 2-3 months?  I would call those people the die hard fans.

Originally posted by GamerUntouch

You'd have to be insane to buy a lifetime sub for this, but you're free to waste your money.

If they enjoy the game and the game doesn't go F2P in a year and a half, they will get their money's worth.  For you it would be a waste of money.  Also, 200 bucks means more to some people than others.  Depends on how financial secure the person is tbh.

Originally posted by Darkfalz89

Originally posted by channel84

Please comment with rational reason and refrain from posting "zomg this game sux" or "but but people are saying it's not worth it". If you don't have a valid point then it's ok to not post anything. This post is to provide some info for people who are thinking about going lifetime sub. Feel free to post any negative reason to balance the scale but keep it rational and back it up with valid reasoning. 

 

Also please state whether you've purchase the game and also up to which area have you experience the game. This is to discourage weekend hater and troll. Lets keep this flame free and infomative ^^

 

Guild Wars 2 release in less than two months, /endthread. No but seriously, I know that not everyone will run to gw2 like its the holy grail, but even to those skeptics there's one thing we all approve of : B2P. Abolishment of the trinity system, dynamic event system, 3 faction RvR with battlegrounds with competitive pvp in mind. It's not re inventing the wheel, but its both changing the face of pve/pvp and well crap it's gd buy to play. Don't get me wrong, I purchased secret world yesterday and I'm currently enjoying the eerie atmosphere and modern day setting. Loving the progression system and all the different weapons and how they complement themselves. I enjoy the voiced over interesting personas of all the Npc's along with the unknown story of the secret world that envelopes it all. I simply enjoy the game for what it is, nothing more nothing less. Ill give it 2 months before it becomes as boring as all the rest and this is ok since GW2 comes out. The verdict is that The Secret World while it boasts atmosphere and a modern setting; its worth a buy and a paid month, but certainly not a lifetime sub, specially when they charge monthly AND cash shop. That last part always makes me laugh when its brought up.

Forgive my lack of knowledge on it but, is GW2 even an MMO? I thought it was the same type of game as GW1, which, was better compared to Diablo 1 when played on Battle net. Unless I am wrong, and I may be, isn't GW2 pretty much sit in a hub, form a group then run into the portal to take you to the playzone, then when it completes, zone you back to the hub?

Again, maybe I am wrong but I thought thats about what it is. And if it is, it can't be compared with an actual MMO (IMO)

Originally posted by Quicksand

 

Forgive my lack of knowledge on it but, is GW2 even an MMO? I thought it was the same type of game as GW1, which, was better compared to Diablo 1 when played on Battle net. Unless I am wrong, and I may be, isn't GW2 pretty much sit in a hub, form a group then run into the portal to take you to the playzone, then when it completes, zone you back to the hub?

 

Again, maybe I am wrong but I thought thats about what it is. And if it is, it can't be compared with an actual MMO (IMO)

GW2 is a true MMORPG.  GW1 is a CO-RPG with a lobby system (like Diablo 1 you mentioned.)

The constant comparison between GW1 and GW2 is false on both sides.  The two games only have their lore in common (albiet hundreds of years difference.)  That's it.

Originally posted by jdnyc

Originally posted by Quicksand

 

Forgive my lack of knowledge on it but, is GW2 even an MMO? I thought it was the same type of game as GW1, which, was better compared to Diablo 1 when played on Battle net. Unless I am wrong, and I may be, isn't GW2 pretty much sit in a hub, form a group then run into the portal to take you to the playzone, then when it completes, zone you back to the hub?

 

Again, maybe I am wrong but I thought thats about what it is. And if it is, it can't be compared with an actual MMO (IMO)

GW2 is a true MMORPG.  GW1 is a CO-RPG with a lobby system (like Diablo 1 you mentioned.)

The constant comparison between GW1 and GW2 is false on both sides.  The two games only have their lore in common (albiet hundreds of years difference.)  That's it.

I didn't know that, thanks for the heads up on it. I thought GW2 was the same type of game as the first one.

I bought the Life Time Sub.  I usually rush through games but this one is awesome and I'm perfectly content w/ sitting back and exploring every little nook and cranny and unlocking every single skill that I can.  Having SOOO much fun!

I would defo go for life time if I had the spare up front cash.  My only gripe with it is I want the developers to work for my cash that I give them every month.

Do lifetimer's make it easy for dev's to be lazy?  Though I fully agree with the OP funcom never ever abandon a product and for that they get my qudos.

Originally posted by Wicoa

I would defo go for life time if I had the spare up front cash.  My only gripe with it is I want the developers to work for my cash that I give them every month.

Do lifetimer's make it easy for dev's to be lazy?  Though I fully agree with the OP funcom never ever abandon a product and for that they get my qudos.

This is me. 

I do think it is worth it though.

I disagree so heavily that despite not being done with my review for the site I work for I felt compelled to post here.

Every time a new MMO comes out everyone goes bananas with how awesome it is. The truth is, TSW is a very, very mediocre game.

The questing can be fun, and has streaks of brilliance, but doesn't save the rest of the game.

The most fundamental thing to an MMO, the combat, is terrible in TSW. It's clunky, the animations are god-awful, and in PvP it's a spammy mess.

The cities feel dead, the game lacks content, there is way too little instruction, the UI is the second worst I've experienced next to Final Fantasy XIV... the list goes on and on.

Anyone who lifetime subs is making a mistake. This game will have trouble retaining 50k players, let alone enough to keep it afloat.

Originally posted by NightBandit

Originally posted by VultureSkull

OMG it is as if GW2 is the second coming (WoW being the first ofc).  Ill give it 2 months before it becomes as boring as all the rest.

I found your comments quite comical and ridicules tbh, as for lasting two months or so then I feel you are either naive or just a plain idiot. I predict it will end up the same as GW1, which if my memory serves me well is still running strongly to this day. But then I live in reality and not fantasy unlike many...I also feel you are being a little judgemental and a tad bias, as it's plane to see you like TSW atm and that's cool ofc, whatever floats your boat! But it will be interesting to see if you feel the same way about TSW in a few months time, we will see...

I am still playing GW1 and while it has many shortfalls it's still a bunch of fun to pick up and drop as and when I feel like and ofc it's FREE unlike TSW. I've been hanging around like many others for something fresh to play that is still in fantasy, but sadly there is little about atm, hence why I'm still playing Vanguard until GW2 pops out next month.

Funcom is not my favourite company after their last two lots of work they produced and whilst it appears that TSW has made them a little more credible, they still have a long way to go in my eyes personally and one game does not make a company amazing over night, so you would expect them to get it right third time round or sink, maybe their ex CEO knows something we don't ;)

So TSW has far more to prove than GW2 I my humble opinion and on track record I know which comes out on top for sure and should I have to buy either game TSW would not be my first choice and box for box I think I know which will shift more units too.

Enjoy your gaming,

Bandit

GW1 us running since release, so are both funcom's products.  Both are totally different games, but GW1 was a niche audience just as this game is.  GW1 was not "free" it cost $180 assuming you bought it each expansion at launch.  Secret World was $250 assuming Lifetime sub.  Not really that much of a difference, and if you bought the CE of each(Think they were $70.00 each, only found "Factions" press release though).  So that would bring it to $240.00.  Lifetime is a CE edition of TSW, so price point is nearly identical, though spread out of a couple years vs all up front(which is obviously a better option than up front)

Either way I feel they are totally different games attracting different crowds.

Originally posted by channel84

Funcom

-Support for Anarchy online until today

-Dare to innovate

-Have a history of churning out quality expansion and content

-Great customer service (not your EA typical "i'm sorry but i can't help you")

 

F2P

-Funcom F2P model more of a freemium (lots of locked content unless paying for sub membership fee = sub)

-Even if it goes F2P, small compensation in form of monthly bonus cash shop currency will most likely be given to life time sub

-Lots of interesting cosmetic option in cash shop (well maybe not so much currently but i'm sure they'll produce more)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  

Are you serious? Dare to innovate? xDDD

The purple one... Just doesn't deserve a comment xDDDD 

Originally posted by JonnyBigBoss

I disagree so heavily that despite not being done with my review for the site I work for I felt compelled to post here.

Every time a new MMO comes out everyone goes bananas with how awesome it is. The truth is, TSW is a very, very mediocre game.

The questing can be fun, and has streaks of brilliance, but doesn't save the rest of the game.

The most fundamental thing to an MMO, the combat, is terrible in TSW. It's clunky, the animations are god-awful, and in PvP it's a spammy mess.

The cities feel dead, the game lacks content, there is way too little instruction, the UI is the second worst I've experienced next to Final Fantasy XIV... the list goes on and on.

Anyone who lifetime subs is making a mistake. This game will have trouble retaining 50k players, let alone enough to keep it afloat.

Be sure to tell me what site you work for, so I can avoid it.  You're comments come from someone whom hasn't seen very much of the game and caught into the group think of hate mentality.  Combat terrible?  No it's not.  Animations god-awful?  No they're not.  They definitely need some work.  And although much works needs to be done on some of the UI functionality - comparing to FF14 UI?  please.

Originally posted by korent1991

Are you serious? Dare to innovate? xDDD

The purple one... Just doesn't deserve a comment xDDDD 

Have you even played any of their expansions or additional content?  No.  No you haven't.

And TSW is most certainly innovative.