I read on the forums a few things:

Long hair can't be put in becuz of clipping. That's why so many of the fem hairstyles are so "butch". They will be working on it though.

Baldness will be an option at launch.

Those are the only two "official" replies I saw.  

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Mmotosher

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by AliceKaye
I completely agree. I can only make one female that I like. I also think they have a horribly limited amount of hairstyles for females. Most of them are so darn masculine. It's one of the main readiness I've had a hard time getting into their game. And they could use some more clothing options too, but I guess that will come in the game and store.

lucky you I couldn't put together a single good looking female(that also looked good in game).  I ended up with a male toon because I could at least create one or two that looked pretty decent... really a let down because some of the npc's I see around don't look bad at all.. 

 

Good thing is that they already stated that this is not end product. I mean humans Are really the hardest to Get right. Just look at gw2 humans as well. Very plain faces there.

i agree GW2 faces are plain but I still can make an "attractive" looking female in that game... 

It's seriously impossible in this game.  All female models look like crack whores of some kind.

Originally posted by ashleymorrow

I read on the forums a few things:

 

Long hair can't be put in becuz of clipping. That's why so many of the fem hairstyles are so "butch". They will be working on it though.

Baldness will be an option at launch.

 

Those are the only two "official" replies I saw.  

They should really have a browse at those picture folders at hairdressers'... There's so much more that can be done with mid to short length hair without making them look "butch". Not to mention that most other MMOs have got past the clipping issues with long hair, why can't the same be done in this game?

Originally posted by MoonBeans

why  every preset face looks like a neglected neanderthal?   

i've seen more atractive chimpanzees than  female characters in this game.   

 

adding few more sliders here and there won't be enough.    they need to add at least 1 or 2 decent looking preset faces.   so that players can have a bit more variety.   

there is only one playable race in this game (humans) ,  i find character creation  in this game ,very but very limited.   there is no excuse for having a so called next generation MMO with such lacking char creation system.

anyone else feels the sameway?

TSW is a dark nasty place OP. There are no super models in TSW.

Originally posted by cooper85

Originally posted by MoonBeans

why  every preset face looks like a neglected neanderthal?   

i've seen more atractive chimpanzees than  female characters in this game.   

 

adding few more sliders here and there won't be enough.    they need to add at least 1 or 2 decent looking preset faces.   so that players can have a bit more variety.   

there is only one playable race in this game (humans) ,  i find character creation  in this game ,very but very limited.   there is no excuse for having a so called next generation MMO with such lacking char creation system.

anyone else feels the sameway?

TSW is a dark nasty place OP. There are no super models in TSW.

There aren't even normal looking women. There are only disfigured, monkey-faced women with short legs and crooked breasts.

Originally posted by cooper85

Originally posted by MoonBeans

why  every preset face looks like a neglected neanderthal?   

i've seen more atractive chimpanzees than  female characters in this game.   

 

adding few more sliders here and there won't be enough.    they need to add at least 1 or 2 decent looking preset faces.   so that players can have a bit more variety.   

there is only one playable race in this game (humans) ,  i find character creation  in this game ,very but very limited.   there is no excuse for having a so called next generation MMO with such lacking char creation system.

anyone else feels the sameway?

TSW is a dark nasty place OP. There are no super models in TSW.

TSW is suppose to take place in modern day planet Earth.   and even if it was based on an apocalyptic devastated world.  people don't mutate into apes that fast.   there still would be ugly, average, and good looking people.

it is down right impossible to get attached to a character in this game.     to me, it is the number one reason is preventing me from buying it.     first impressions are very important for most people, playing with a hideous looking character don't help build good impressions.

Originally posted by Mmotosher

Originally posted by MoonBeans

Originally posted by cooper85

Originally posted by MoonBeans

why  every preset face looks like a neglected neanderthal?   

i've seen more atractive chimpanzees than  female characters in this game.   

 

adding few more sliders here and there won't be enough.    they need to add at least 1 or 2 decent looking preset faces.   so that players can have a bit more variety.   

there is only one playable race in this game (humans) ,  i find character creation  in this game ,very but very limited.   there is no excuse for having a so called next generation MMO with such lacking char creation system.

anyone else feels the sameway?

TSW is a dark nasty place OP. There are no super models in TSW.

TSW is suppose to take place in modern day planet Earth.   and even if it was based on an apocalyptic devastated world.  people don't mutate into apes that fast.   there still would be ugly, average, and good looking people.

it is down right impossible to get attached to a character in this game.     to me, it is the number one reason is preventing me from buying it.     first impressions are very important for most people, playing with a hideous looking character don't help build good impressions.

 

 

Did you Play beta then? So you Think there is something wrong with male models?

yes i have.   there is something beyond wrong with character creation in general.  it is too limited.   the male characters look a bit better than the females but they aren't great iether.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3JT2O3d9OM&feature=related    this is how character creation should be like in  a so called next generation MMO.  with only one playable race.

Originally posted by MoonBeans

....in  a so called next generation MMO.  with only one playable race.

I think this is an important point.

One player race, and it still feels like it's sub par.

It's a real off putter tbh.

I liked how my character turned out. Being an actual asian playing an asian guy as the Dragons, I felt the angular face models were appropriate, the animation of those face models were off-putting since most of the characters seem to be stoic and appear lifeless. Hell my asian guy looks cold as hell with those life-less heavy lidded eyes, and the people he talks to seem medicated and depressing.

This is my main gripe with TSW. I really enjoy the setting, but all the characters look very similar, and we can change almost nothing about them. It seems the devs are trying to convince us that clothes are what makes our characters unique, and of course we will be able to buy clothes in the item shop... not sure yet what to think about that. I don't think I would spend money there if my character doesn't feel like my character.

The character creation options are not great, but that doesn't bother me in the least. The only time I really see my "own" face is for a few seconds on the login screen and during the occasional cutscene video. The gameplay in TSW makes up for that 1000 times over.

I can barely believe that some people will not play a game they really enjoy just because their ingame character has a "fugly" face, but to each his own. 

Originally posted by SpottyGekko

The character creation options are not great, but that doesn't bother me in the least. The only time I really see my "own" face is for a few seconds on the login screen and during the occasional cutscene video. The gameplay in TSW makes up for that 1000 times over.

 

I can barely believe that some people will not play a game they really enjoy just because their ingame character has a "fugly" face, but to each his own. 

Our characters are our extensions into the game's world. For some of us having decent looking models and animations are a big deal as their lack does not allow us to properly connect with the game world.

The issue becomes even more apparent if the character is a human. It's one thing if the character is a space cow or some other fantastical race but we instinctually know how humans look and move and poor models and animations really stand out.

Obviously the above may not be an issue for some people and may be a small issue for others. For me, as a very visual person, TSW's models and animations stand out like a sore thumb.

With that said, I do enjoy the game's stories and investigations.

Tried to get a good, decent close-up, of my female character today. I think all things considered she actually turned out attractively and doesn't look like a street-walker or neandertal ape-faced monkey-woman.

I apologize for the quality, but MMORPG.com will only allow crappy 2mb and under jpgs. They really ought to consider png's, haha, they look so much better!

Originally posted by AliceKaye

 

Tried to get a good, decent close-up, of my female character today. I think all things considered she actually turned out attractively and doesn't look like a street-walker or neandertal ape-faced monkey-woman.

I apologize for the quality, but MMORPG.com will only allow crappy 2mb and under jpgs. They really ought to consider png's, haha, they look so much better!

mouth still irks me to no end.. i have been able to get some decent looking ones but the mouth ends up screwing it up and it looks even worse in the cutsences:(

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by AliceKaye

 

Tried to get a good, decent close-up, of my female character today. I think all things considered she actually turned out attractively and doesn't look like a street-walker or neandertal ape-faced monkey-woman.

I apologize for the quality, but MMORPG.com will only allow crappy 2mb and under jpgs. They really ought to consider png's, haha, they look so much better!

mouth still irks me to no end.. i have been able to get some decent looking ones but the mouth ends up screwing it up and it looks even worse in the cutsences:(

This is one of the only mouths that don't bug me. I made an asian dragon the other day and her mouth kept getting stuck in this weird half smile for all the cut scenes. It looked so dumb. This girl keeps her trap shut, thankfully.

Originally posted by AliceKaye

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by AliceKaye

 

Tried to get a good, decent close-up, of my female character today. I think all things considered she actually turned out attractively and doesn't look like a street-walker or neandertal ape-faced monkey-woman.

I apologize for the quality, but MMORPG.com will only allow crappy 2mb and under jpgs. They really ought to consider png's, haha, they look so much better!

mouth still irks me to no end.. i have been able to get some decent looking ones but the mouth ends up screwing it up and it looks even worse in the cutsences:(

This is one of the only mouths that don't bug me. I made an asian dragon the other day and her mouth kept getting stuck in this weird half smile for all the cut scenes. It looked so dumb. This girl keeps her trap shut, thankfully.

ha well just hoping get some more options come release in a few weeks or i'm probably just going to make a male toon:( 

Originally posted by Nefera

Originally posted by ashleymorrow

I read on the forums a few things:

 

Long hair can't be put in becuz of clipping. That's why so many of the fem hairstyles are so "butch". They will be working on it though.

Baldness will be an option at launch.

 

Those are the only two "official" replies I saw.  

They should really have a browse at those picture folders at hairdressers'... There's so much more that can be done with mid to short length hair without making them look "butch". Not to mention that most other MMOs have got past the clipping issues with long hair, why can't the same be done in this game?

There was an NPC in the game with a short curled ponytail and the hair occasionaly cut stright into her neck.  It looked really bad,  

Also, if you choose some 2 weapon styles and have them put away on your back the clipping is intollerable.  I picked Blood Magic and Assault rifle, and the clipping of the gun and the big ugly book on your back was so annoying I deleted and restarted a new character.  How do these things get through testing?

I noticed they removed collision for other players.  Dont know why exectly.  CD worked great in AoC.

What happens if you make a toon on launch, Then when the "final" character creator is patched in, am I stuck with an ugly toon.

Anyone heard anything?

Originally posted by kulhat

What happens if you make a toon on launch, Then when the "final" character creator is patched in, am I stuck with an ugly toon.

Anyone heard anything?

I'm pretty sure they'll let you redo your toon.

On topic, so far I am enjoying my beta weekend, I tottaly forgot that it is beta. That being said, toon models does feel limited. I dont expect EVE or APB level of customisation, but yeah it is lacking.

Hope they'll add more options on launch.

The Character creation in this game is the worst ive seen in a long time , cloths great but the faces are ugly at best and there are no body or height options at all , not good not good at all .