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The Secret World Forum » General Discussion » Who else went out on a limb to support Funcom through Lifetime?

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  Olgark

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4/06/12 1:14:52 AM#201

I bought the lifetime edition.

Means after a year of playing it would of payed for itself anyway. And also Funcom is the only company out there trying something new to the genre where as other MMO developers are staying to the old cookie cutter of class, levels and quest hubs/instances which is making MMO's into a loby type game where you have to sit and wait for groups to form up before going out and running a flashpoint/dungeon.

 

 

  Gurpslord

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4/06/12 1:18:03 AM#202

As much as this game looks wonderful, as much as I want to play it and WILL in fact buy it and give it a whirl, I'm not going to sign up for a lifetime of something that may or may not actually live up to the expectations, realistic or otherwise.

 

Too often have I seen friends do this and get bit in the behind.  Tabula Rasa & STO are the two big ones that I can think of.  Frankly only the one guy who got a LOTRO lifetime is getting anything out of it, and even then really didn't seem worth it.  If it's great, I'll pay the sub.

  bestever

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Joined: 12/26/11
Posts: 303

4/06/12 1:18:45 AM#203

I plan on it just don't have the 200 yet. Will they still have it at release? I did get the 49 box.

  bestever

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Joined: 12/26/11
Posts: 303

4/06/12 1:20:11 AM#204
Originally posted by Gurpslord

As much as this game looks wonderful, as much as I want to play it and WILL in fact buy it and give it a whirl, I'm not going to sign up for a lifetime of something that may or may not actually live up to the expectations, realistic or otherwise.

 

Too often have I seen friends do this and get bit in the behind.  Tabula Rasa & STO are the two big ones that I can think of.  Frankly only the one guy who got a LOTRO lifetime is getting anything out of it, and even then really didn't seem worth it.  If it's great, I'll pay the sub.

True but I'm pretty sure it will be around for awhile. AOC is still around and this look much better.

  DarkPony

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4/06/12 1:22:37 AM#205
Originally posted by Olgark

Means after a year of playing it would of payed for itself anyway.

*snipage*

How do you know you will like this game so much that you will play it for a whole year?

To me personally that has become a very unlikely occurence.

  ariboersma

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Joined: 9/26/11
Posts: 1755

4/06/12 1:27:00 AM#206
Originally posted by maitrader
Originally posted by ariboersma
Originally posted by GoldenArrow

5.  You will start posting "I paid for a lifetime sub, I should get everything for free!"

Beats the 200 lines of fanboi s#it about GW2 from people who haven't even played the game.

 

 

as opposed to the TSW fanbois who haven't played the game and think its great? and waste 200 bucks?!?!!? Trust me.. the game SUCKS! but I know you won't.. you will just think im a "GW fanboi" and ignore my information which is from actual game experience. 

Now what I came back to this thread to inform you all of is the bad customer server from Funcom you can hope to experience. I just had 2 wonderful conversations with live chat because I need to verify my account for like the 3rd or 4th time...

ugg ok so the post is being dumb this part is supposed to be AFTER the live chat but it wont let me >.< Anyways I still cannot access any account, I had to EMAIL them to get things fixed. This is just not acceptable for a company.. emails from 1970?!?! really?!?!? and 2 different guys giving 2 different contact emails. Just be warry.

(01:50:25 PM GMT) Tony: Please make sure to add account@funcom.com to your contacts and I can try to resend your email verification again.
(01:51:40 PM GMT) Me: its added

 

(02:42:29 PM GMT) Greg: Have you checked your spam folder and your oldest emails? We have received reports about emails being listed as coming in from 1970 instead of 2012.

(02:42:29 PM GMT) Greg: Have you checked your spam folder and your oldest emails? We have received reports about emails being listed as coming in from 1970 instead of 2012.
(02:43:25 PM GMT) Me: well there is no NEW mails even if the date is wrong, but yes nothing in spam folder.. even checked my other email address in case that was the issue
(02:44:16 PM GMT) Greg: I see. Please add account@ageofconan.com to your trusted contact list, then disable any antivirus you have running. Once you do so, let me know so that I can send a new verification email to you.
(02:44:40 PM GMT) Me: last time the guy said to add account@funcom.com which I did
(02:44:54 PM GMT) Me: this is so I can access **NDA**
(02:45:32 PM GMT) Me: not age of conan


(02:45:58 PM GMT) Greg: I understand, but the verification emails come from account@ageofconan.com regardless of the game account.

Well its good to know that they wont noobify things for you and give you access to log into an account that may not be yours (due to your inability to get an email amd verify your account). NCSoft learned the heard way with Aion that you gotta be on the ball and stern when dealing with account issues... I am not suprised the FC rep was repetitive and from your stand point "unhelpful".

 

ummm except I have all my account info, their system was faulty.. not mine. I have verfied my account several times already.. btw they STILL haven't gotten back to me... Luckily their system went back up and I was able to get an email. Why should I have to verify my account every couple of months and even if I do don't make it my fault that your effing system is down and sending emails from 1970 or not at all! Guess what and I am am now doubley sure that those that wasted their money on lifetimes... truely wasted their money.

 

Whats hilarious is that you didn't even read my post or you would know they they weren't repetetive at all.. they were contradictory AND that it had nothing to do with me being unable to recieve an email.

  ariboersma

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4/06/12 1:28:40 AM#207
Originally posted by DarkPony
Originally posted by Olgark

Means after a year of playing it would of payed for itself anyway.

*snipage*

How do you know you will like this game so much that you will play it fo a whole year?

To me personally that has become a very unlikely occurence.

I think they will log in, play it for 5 minutes and kick themselves lol

  rojo6934

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"It is double pleasure to deceive the deceiver". - Niccolo Machiavelli

4/06/12 2:58:59 AM#208
Originally posted by Olgark

I bought the lifetime edition.

Means after a year of playing it would of payed for itself anyway. And also Funcom is the only company out there trying something new to the genre where as other MMO developers are staying to the old cookie cutter of class, levels and quest hubs/instances which is making MMO's into a loby type game where you have to sit and wait for groups to form up before going out and running a flashpoint/dungeon.

 

 

i have questions.

1) with a lifetime subscription do you get all the character slots they want to sell to normal subscribers?

2) if you buy a lifetime sub, is it a 1 time payment for the rest of your life until the game ever dies?(means no yearly payment.. it says lifetime afterall)

3) with lifetime sub do you get everything that a normal subscriber would get for free in general in other mmos?

i ask obviously because i dont know the answer, but.... if any of the answers is No, then EA / Funcom can stick their lifetime where they see fit

"in peace, in sleep under the barren, abandoned soil"


  jdnewell

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Joined: 7/04/06
Posts: 1402

4/06/12 8:13:28 AM#209
Originally posted by rojo6934
Originally posted by Olgark

I bought the lifetime edition.

Means after a year of playing it would of payed for itself anyway. And also Funcom is the only company out there trying something new to the genre where as other MMO developers are staying to the old cookie cutter of class, levels and quest hubs/instances which is making MMO's into a loby type game where you have to sit and wait for groups to form up before going out and running a flashpoint/dungeon.

 

 

i have questions.

1) with a lifetime subscription do you get all the character slots they want to sell to normal subscribers?You get at least one extra char slot and one extra name reserve.

2) if you buy a lifetime sub, is it a 1 time payment for the rest of your life until the game ever dies?(means no yearly payment.. it says lifetime afterall). yes. one time payment only and you can play for the life of the game, no matter what payment model they switch too. Freemium, F2P, ect wont matter. You will be considered a " premium member"

3) with lifetime sub do you get everything that a normal subscriber would get for free in general in other mmos? Yes

i ask obviously because i dont know the answer, but.... if any of the answers is No, then EA / Funcom can stick their lifetime where they see fit

 

  Darth_Osor

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Posts: 1102

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4/06/12 9:00:40 AM#210

I've played about a dozen MMOs now, and so far only two of them would have given me my money's worth (DAoC and LotRO), and a third (EVE) would be close (assuming a $200 LTS price), so the odds of me getting my money's worth here are low, especially with the limited replayability of a themepark game with no classes.

I'm generally opposed to the concept of a LTS as a consumer, because you are surrendering your voice and ability to vote with your wallet when you go that route.  Devs already have your money, why would they give a damn if you rage over how slow they are fixing or adding things, or some change they plan on making down the road?  I almost bought a LTS to STO, just because I love Star Trek, but after playing for a few days in OB, I knew that would have been a terrible mistake.  I thought AoC had a lot of potential, but they just didn't have the talent or resources to pull it off.

I'll still probably end up preordering in this game if they ever get around to sending me an email to unlock my account.  Even though my Funcom hate was mostly appeased by the firing of Gaute Godager (since he was the architect of that fail launch), there is no way I trust Funcom enough to get a LTS for this game. 

 

  jdnewell

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Posts: 1402

4/06/12 9:24:42 AM#211

The way I see it is they are not trying to hide anything due to the fact you can buy a Lifetime sub AFTER the game goes live.

If they really wanted to make a money grab then the offer would only be pre release like it was in so many other games. Unless I am mistaken ( and very well may be ) the other LTS offers have only been pre release. No try before you buy option. That to me seems a bit shady and looks like a money grab.

To me funcom offering LTS pre and post release actually shows at least some confidence in their product. I think its just another payment model they are offering. Nothing sinister about it in my mind.

If I would have bought LTS to AO and AoC I would have broke even at least and probably a good bit ahead considering I could log into those games whenever I wanted. I often feel like playing AoC again for a few days or a week, but dont because I have to resub again.

I personally think the people who bought lifetime subs this early are jumping the gun a bit, especially since the offer will be around post release. I will be waiting until then to decide myself.

But if they have the money and want to support Funcom then more power to them. To me $200 isnt much money, I spend more than that on other hobbies easily. And probably so do most of the people who have already bought LTS for TSW.

If your a broke college student trying to get by until graduation then it probably isnt a safe bet. But for the folks who are not in that boat its no big deal. At least to me. I work full time and make a very good living. I will spend more than $200 taking my wife and kids out to eat this month easily.

If you dont like it dont buy it, but dont trash the people that do.

  Darth_Osor

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4/06/12 9:56:48 AM#212
Originally posted by jdnewell

The way I see it is they are not trying to hide anything due to the fact you can buy a Lifetime sub AFTER the game goes live.

If they really wanted to make a money grab then the offer would only be pre release like it was in so many other games. Unless I am mistaken ( and very well may be ) the other LTS offers have only been pre release. No try before you buy option. That to me seems a bit shady and looks like a money grab.

To me funcom offering LTS pre and post release actually shows at least some confidence in their product. I think its just another payment model they are offering. Nothing sinister about it in my mind.

If I would have bought LTS to AO and AoC I would have broke even at least and probably a good bit ahead considering I could log into those games whenever I wanted. I often feel like playing AoC again for a few days or a week, but dont because I have to resub again.

I personally think the people who bought lifetime subs this early are jumping the gun a bit, especially since the offer will be around post release. I will be waiting until then to decide myself.

But if they have the money and want to support Funcom then more power to them. To me $200 isnt much money, I spend more than that on other hobbies easily. And probably so do most of the people who have already bought LTS for TSW.

If your a broke college student trying to get by until graduation then it probably isnt a safe bet. But for the folks who are not in that boat its no big deal. At least to me. I work full time and make a very good living. I will spend more than $200 taking my wife and kids out to eat this month easily.

If you dont like it dont buy it, but dont trash the people that do.

Think about it...what difference does it make?  If the game sucks ass, no one will buy a LTS after launch, so still oferring one won't matter.

STO was still selling LTS after launch, because they were desperate for cash.  LotRO closed LTSs after launch, but made them available again, and announced converting to F2P shortly after they stopped selling LTSs.

  jdnewell

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Posts: 1402

4/06/12 10:10:54 AM#213
Originally posted by Darth_Osor
Originally posted by jdnewell

The way I see it is they are not trying to hide anything due to the fact you can buy a Lifetime sub AFTER the game goes live.

If they really wanted to make a money grab then the offer would only be pre release like it was in so many other games. Unless I am mistaken ( and very well may be ) the other LTS offers have only been pre release. No try before you buy option. That to me seems a bit shady and looks like a money grab.

To me funcom offering LTS pre and post release actually shows at least some confidence in their product. I think its just another payment model they are offering. Nothing sinister about it in my mind.

If I would have bought LTS to AO and AoC I would have broke even at least and probably a good bit ahead considering I could log into those games whenever I wanted. I often feel like playing AoC again for a few days or a week, but dont because I have to resub again.

I personally think the people who bought lifetime subs this early are jumping the gun a bit, especially since the offer will be around post release. I will be waiting until then to decide myself.

But if they have the money and want to support Funcom then more power to them. To me $200 isnt much money, I spend more than that on other hobbies easily. And probably so do most of the people who have already bought LTS for TSW.

If your a broke college student trying to get by until graduation then it probably isnt a safe bet. But for the folks who are not in that boat its no big deal. At least to me. I work full time and make a very good living. I will spend more than $200 taking my wife and kids out to eat this month easily.

If you dont like it dont buy it, but dont trash the people that do.

Think about it...what difference does it make?  If the game sucks ass, no one will buy a LTS after launch, so still oferring one won't matter.

STO was still selling LTS after launch, because they were desperate for cash.  LotRO closed LTSs after launch, but made them available again, and announced converting to F2P shortly after they stopped selling LTSs.


The game may very well suck ass. I have no idea. Hence why I personally am not buying a LTS until I have played it. Point being its not a big deal anyway you look at it.

People are saying its a conspiracy to even offer LTS. IMO thats silly. I think its just another option they are offering in an attempt to recoup some of the Dev costs over the past 5 years up front. Much like a $150CE edition of ToR. IMO I would rather drop another $50 and get a lifetime sub than spend $150 for a holodancer and a half assed "elite" vendor for cosmetic items and a statue.

But this is just my opinion, take it for what it is =)

  Darth_Osor

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4/06/12 10:37:08 AM#214
Originally posted by jdnewell


The game may very well suck ass. I have no idea. Hence why I personally am not buying a LTS until I have played it. Point being its not a big deal anyway you look at it.

People are saying its a conspiracy to even offer LTS. IMO thats silly. I think its just another option they are offering in an attempt to recoup some of the Dev costs over the past 5 years up front. Much like a $150CE edition of ToR. IMO I would rather drop another $50 and get a lifetime sub than spend $150 for a holodancer and a half assed "elite" vendor for cosmetic items and a statue.

But this is just my opinion, take it for what it is =)

I'm 99.9% certain the $199 doesn't include the $50 box, so you're looking at $250, not $200 for a total, and $265 if you want the initiate pack.  Just sayin'

  Zaltark

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Posts: 426

4/06/12 10:39:19 AM#215

I think Im just not going to buy EA games anymore. They dont care about quality. They just want money. "Get rich quick" schemes and the like.

  Eladi

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Posts: 990

4/06/12 10:41:25 AM#216
Originally posted by Darth_Osor
Originally posted by jdnewell


The game may very well suck ass. I have no idea. Hence why I personally am not buying a LTS until I have played it. Point being its not a big deal anyway you look at it.

People are saying its a conspiracy to even offer LTS. IMO thats silly. I think its just another option they are offering in an attempt to recoup some of the Dev costs over the past 5 years up front. Much like a $150CE edition of ToR. IMO I would rather drop another $50 and get a lifetime sub than spend $150 for a holodancer and a half assed "elite" vendor for cosmetic items and a statue.

But this is just my opinion, take it for what it is =)

I'm 99.9% certain the $199 doesn't include the $50 box, so you're looking at $250, not $200 for a total, and $265 if you want the initiate pack.  Just sayin'

you are 100% correct, its 249,99+extra pack14,99+extra character slots9,99+extra name 9,99. so a true fan would look at a $300 prize or if you're unlucky and are born in Europe at 300,- EURO  since Scamcom uses a one on one prize while they sit in their Euro based HQ.

 

  Serelisk

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4/06/12 10:47:12 AM#217
Originally posted by maitrader
Originally posted by DrunkWolf
Originally posted by Cinge
Originally posted by DrunkWolf
Originally posted by Mad+Dog

wont touch aother funcom game till free trial or at least 3 months aster release.

 i agree, and the same goes for EA.

So you will wait 6 months for this? Since its FC and EA together :)

 actually i didnt even know its both, i havnt followed it to much because i saw funcom was makeing it. but since it is both i probably wont even do the free trial i will just wait for the game to go free to play 6 months after launch.

Wow! The GW2 Troll pack is out in force!!! go back to your GW2 Forums guys, nothing for you to see here ;P

When the OP takes a shot at ArenaNet, indirectly claiming that they're on the wrong end of the MMORPG development spectrum with companies they're trying to distance themselves from like Blizzard, it's not unreasonable that fans of the game ANet is making would be agitated.

  DarkPony

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4/06/12 10:49:03 AM#218

To all contemplating to spend their money on a lifetime sub without having looked the actual horse in its mouth yet:

Be wise and wait a bit. Apart from a few days headstart there's nothing to win but much to lose by commiting yourself early as it will be offered post launch as well: if it turns out to be a blast you can still make that step but it will be a much better informed decision.

So unless you really like gambling or have a money tree in your back yard: a little patience is a virtue.

<3

  Kuppa

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4/06/12 10:51:31 AM#219
Originally posted by DarkPony

To all contemplating to spend their money on a lifetime sub without having looked the actual horse in its mouth yet:

Be wise and wait a bit. Apart from a few days headstart there's nothing to win but much to lose by commiting yourself early as it will be offered post launch as well: if it turns out to be a blast you can still make that step but it will be a much better informed decision.

So unless you really like gambling or have a money tree in your back yard: a little patience is a virtue.

<3

I hate it when Pony gets all serious 


  User Deleted
4/06/12 10:51:58 AM#220
Originally posted by Eladi

you are 100% correct, its 249,99+extra pack14,99+extra character slots9,99+extra name 9,99. so a true fan would look at a $300 prize or if you're unlucky and are born in Europe at 300,- EURO  since Scamcom uses a one on one prize while they sit in their Euro based HQ.

 

there goes the arguement that it costs so much more to ship to the EU that's why we pay more. Just figured out the above package you mentioned quickly for £. $355+ I used a very conservative exchange rate too no clue what it is at today. 

I used £1 = $1.55 it's  £1 = $1.5877 today so it's $364.30

edit: for euro $372.90 for that? seriously?

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