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Darkfall News - First Wave of Invites
Posted by Keith Cross on Jan 22, 2009 | 88 comments in our forums
Aventurine has announced that they have sent out the first round of invites to test Darkfall, as they promised would happen when they announced last week that the game would be delayed by one month. They also explained today's forum and website outages as "denial of service attacks."
This is an update about what is happening today:
We have sent out the first wave of invites to clans and individual testers. We will send more waves of invites within a few hours. Invited players will be able to download the Darkfall installer.
We are applying the latest patch, and players will be able to start patching soon, and entering the game.
We are spacing out the invites in order to facilitate the download of the client and patching. We will continue sending out more invites every day until we reach our capacity.
Since this first phase has to do with stress testing the servers, and doing final testing on features, we are not lifting the NDA until this testing is concluded.
We apologize for the problems with the forums and the website today, we have been experiencing denial of service attacks, and we are working to resolve them.
Read more here.
I wish this was verifible. NDA prohibits admitting you are in the beta. All the links to download are sent by email and not viewable to the public. They could just say they are handing out invites and no one would be the wiser.
This game is a joke. Darkfall is the next Dark and Light - no doubt. Only the gullable believe this crap.
that isnt very smary to say it ocudl release now and be better tha AOC and AOC was in better shape then dark and light was
Stop being so pessimistic! If they say they are sending out invites then they are.. what reason do they have to lie!? Plus there's nothing to stop people from saying "I have an email
"
If you are soo optimistic, why don't you just give me your invite. You did get, right ?
Oh let's not even go there.
and you notice how their website is down? I bet people that "did" get invites can't even download the client.. denial of service attacks? why would someone this day of all days attempt an attack?
Maybe they are just trying to buy themselves more time to stall? =P They should go as far to say that after the DOS attacks, that someone hacked into their servers and corupted the client and vital data, and which will then lead to a 6-12 month push back =P
Oh Global_Infer... did the doctors have to let you out THIS early? You're not due until Feb 25th!
I am sorry but I have to agree with this game being a joke. They have had no formal beta testing, the game has been in production for god knows how long, they have not had a real stress test, they are unknown in the MMO gaming world, they have put off launch (how many times?), I have not seen anything as far as US publishing, the lost financial backing and the found some again...the list really goes on. I wanted this to be a great game but at this point, I am not even going to waste my money.
Actually most of what you said in this quote has already been explained by Aventurine. Just read around and you'll find why most of that happened, instead of focusing on the fact that it happened.
Also, you are completely correct about there not being any US publishing. I won't lie and say that it isn't a little weird sounding, considering it's a huge player base, but they DID in fact give an explanation as to why. Also, you will still be able to play, even if you are located in America (that is, if you want to).
The only real problem I can think of about your post is the "formal beta testing". They were just doing that for the last two months, or am I mistaken?
There is no way to prove this even happened. Sure it is more smoke from Adventurine.
The real question is... When are the people that think it's a joke going to move on? I have my doubts about the game but if I came to a point where I needed to spend most of my time posting about what a joke this game is then who should be laughed at? Everyone that does it or DF? This response is for all the posts lately about
DF not just the OP. DF reminds me of the election way to much talking about it..
thats what these invites int he next few days are stress test until they each capacity that how many invites are going out probly around 30k
o you will see soon enough you will see : ) i firgrued they was going to do wave of invites didnthtink they could support the capacity at same time
Actually most of what you said in this quote has already been explained by Aventurine. Just read around and you'll find why most of that happened, instead of focusing on the fact that it happened.
Also, you are completely correct about there not being any US publishing. I won't lie and say that it isn't a little weird sounding, considering it's a huge player base, but they DID in fact give an explanation as to why. Also, you will still be able to play, even if you are located in America (that is, if you want to).
The only real problem I can think of about your post is the "formal beta testing". They were just doing that for the last two months, or am I mistaken?
they was with around 1k testers now is the stress test
It's never been against the NDA to say you are in the beta, right?
Why aren't there a bunch of people saying they are in? I haven't really been looking tbh but don't think Ive seen one person.
It is against the NDA to acknowledge you are in the beta. Which of course makes anything that we were told happened today completely unverifiable (barring leaks).
Is this the only MMORPG to not allow that?
AoC and WAR beta players were saying they were in it. Along with L2 and others.
i'll let everyone know that I did'nt get an invite. Gay...
oh this game finally hit beta?
awesome, i hear the bitboys video card is finally coming out so i can play it on that when im not spending too much time gaming on my phantom console. that is, until my duke nukem forever pre order finally hits my mailbox.
they was with around 1k testers now is the stress test
Do you pull these numbers out your ass for each post individually or have you written them down? If they are written down did you spill your liquid valium on it, only you seem to change it constantly.
The announcement, no matter how you may want to interpret it, says, 'nothing has changed, not a thing, see you on the 25th of feb, have a nice day'.
Well alright, at least if you ar all going to be so "glass half empty" then do it just by waiting... Wait and see what comes of the 25th of Feb and according to all of you, the day will come and you'll allllll be right. But until then, at least give them the benefit of the doubt, or stay quiet.
Oh there may have been others that didn't want you to acknowledge that you are beta testing .....but typically this close to release there is no point in keeping a cap on it when you need the amount of people to stress test. Leaks will happen. If we don't get leaks, guess there is nothing of substance to leak about!
Mate, been there, done that. Did you miss today or what? And on the 25th you or someone else will be back here saying 'just wait untill the 30th march'.
No way would they be able to keep loads of leaks under any circumstances so lets just see in the next few days how many more leaks we get.
The thing that gets me, when Tasos comes hits the forums to say 'you know those beta leaks that are releasing with the small world thing, they are all BS' I actually believe him, it's the only thing he says with any real conviction, he''s fully aware he didn't write it and therefore is a fake.
If I am not mistaken, if my clan or guild receives a set of invites and the guild leader gives me an invite, I am curious if I could post that I got an invite? I do not have one and I am not even sure if ym guild did apply but I do not understand (legally) how an NDA would cover someone from saying "My GM gave me an invite". Technically, I cannot be under the NDA because I have not downloaded or signed anything and there is no way that Aventurine would know that my guild leader would give me an invite.
Again I am just curious and wondering what others think. Personally, I have a high standard of ethics and have upheld every NDA I have ever signed and I wouldn't feel bad about saying I got an invite from my guild leader (if I did).
Any thoughts/ideas?
Don't quote me on this but I read somewhere that when you get the email 2 guys in black suits stand behind you taking photos of you clicking the 'I AGREE' button. Don't fuck with them.
Went exactly as I expected. 'Thousands' of people invited to the beta/trial whatever they call it but NDA still up, no way to verify if its true, and no one you know will tell you they are part of it.
and yes, I prefer to see the glass as half empty, and no, I won't shut up.
Welcome to my house!
Technically speaking, you should legally be able to tell people you received an invite until you sign the NDA.
Actually I heard someone got sued for releasing leaks
Technically speaking, you should legally be able to tell people you received an invite until you sign the NDA.
That's the way I see it but I am by no means a lawyer or up on my NDA law. :) Thanks!
I heard there was this guy who got persecuted by the jews who then crusified him, at which point he came back to life.
It's called ...Bollox
Edit: Sooo many typos, sorry reading too many down2earth posts, IQ dropped 100 points (it was only 50 to start with).
Except for the people I know who got invites today?
Yeah, fail again troll.
you know multiple people who got invites, yet no one else knows of a single person who does. mmk
Except for the people I know who got invites today?
Yeah, fail again troll.
Orly? Think your the first one to say that here. Proof and you'l silence alot of people, no proof and theres no point making such a claim.
Orly? Think your the first one to say that here. Proof and you'l silence alot of people, no proof and theres no point making such a claim.
Yeah, because I love breaking the NDA. Give it a day or two and we'll start seeing the leaks. You know where to find them I'm sure.
And I'll be the first to say that I am betting on Darkfall succeeding, not in the numbers of WoW because it IS going to be niche game that 80% of you on here won't be able to handle, but feel free to quote me right here and now if it:
A) never releases
or
B) is buggy and shitty as launch.
I'll put my neck on the line, where are all of you MMORPG morons going to be when you're proven wrong? I expect a swarm of apologies and "you told me so", otherwise grow a pair before dissing a game that's not even out yet.
Two words: BULL. SHYT.
God, NO ONE gets sued for releasing fan information. wtf is wrong with you people.
People are so fcking !P!a!R!a!N!o!I!d! that they think the NSA is monitoring their keystrokes and bitstreams to see if they are "violating" some 3rd rate soon-to-be-failed mmog.
GROW. UP. Nobody gives a flying fck what you post in a fan forum.
Jeezus, people are such gullible idiots.
Two words: BULL. SHYT.
God, NO ONE gets sued for releasing fan information. wtf is wrong with you people.
People are so fcking !P!a!R!a!N!o!I!d! that they think the NSA is monitoring their keystrokes and bitstreams to see if they are "violating" some 3rd rate soon-to-be-failed mmog.
GROW. UP. Nobody gives a flying fck what you post in a fan forum.
Jeezus, people are such gullible idiots.
LMAO: if ya were a Girl i would Kiss ya LMAO thanks for the Lol...........................
Two words: BULL. SHYT.
God, NO ONE gets sued for releasing fan information. wtf is wrong with you people.
People are so fcking !P!a!R!a!N!o!I!d! that they think the NSA is monitoring their keystrokes and bitstreams to see if they are "violating" some 3rd rate soon-to-be-failed mmog.
GROW. UP. Nobody gives a flying fck what you post in a fan forum.
Jeezus, people are such gullible idiots.
Yeah, tried explaining this in another thread, but apparently Aventurine has the ability to strike fear into the hearts of potential leakers where companies like MS, Apple, Blizzard etc have failed to do so...
Probably because they have greek ninjas who will seek you out and kill you with gyros and baklava...
DorkFall = dead man walking.
All that's left is for the corpse to FINALLY fall over and start stinking up the place.
edit: beer induced rant deleted by author.
1st stress test i see with few testers. (lol)
I didn't get an invite.. I've never logged into the game... I know absolutely nothing about it.
Its epic fail!!!
Sorry I just wanted to join in.
On the other hand I've made somewhere around 10 million dollars making people think a game is ready to launch that they've spent no money on!!
*hint* If you can't detect sarcasm for a certain type of poster here.. please move along.
i happen to just be peepin in on this thread when i noticed the thread turning into an assault on the NDA and whats legal~ whats not. Ive been in quite a few [over 25] myself both on pc and on console and tbh each NDA has its own specific aggreements per project ~ per company per stage of development. So unless someone could show us the NDA for This game which would of course in itself be illegal you cant really know. On another note in most scenarios most companies do not allow you to say your in the beta for obvious legal and protective reasons and some dont mind at all. If they allow the restriction[s] will always be that would be about the most you could say while flexin your Epeens for being one of the few the proud and the lucky to have the privaleage of being in the beta period.
As far as this game goes directly id say look for them to be more regionalized as far as who they are going to allow in to the beta, as it would be a lot easier for them to test w/out over stressing the server much. Yes ive read in other threads that theres "allegedly" ppl playing from all over right now but I personally aint buying that line. And no im not a fan boi or a troll ... or even a skeptic though im skeptical of somethings on this game, im just watching from the outside looking in.
TBH i love the Darkfall forums cos right now and over last few months this games forums are really good when ur sitting back wanting a good laughing read during a solid 420 ... i cant wait for game to finally launch cos its only going to get better.
And you get this info from where?
Look, dont get me wrong, I am also eagerly awaiting actual release of this game, but comments like this really destroy people's creditability!
as much as i personally hate bashing on a game, but really... a DNS attack? this is suppose to be a company that designs military flight sims, that is rocking the best game ever, and they aren't setup to block a dns attack?
what... the... *bleep*.....
i wonder if their servers will be this vulnerable if the game launches.
Did anyone expect anything different? Aventurine throwing out claims that no one can verify, nobody hearing a single leak about the game even though there are supposedly "thousands" of players playing it now, downtoearth defending the game and throwing out random numbers to support his claims. This day has everything that Aventurine is and does.
LOL denial of service attacks, sorry Aventurine I can smell the BS from all the way over here in canada.
I heard that on Feb 25th they plan on using the "Terrorists Bombed Aventurine HQ and destroyed the most current build of the game, setting them back 2 years..." excuse...
I like to tryto start out with as objective a view as I can in any thing I enjoy be it movies,books,music,gaming and as such I am looking at Darkfall as a whol and they are attempting to offer too many good things for me to overlook the project, but I have to say that the recent history of this project has certainly put a couple marks on them.
I've had a few games I got on launch day but have never felt compelled to be in every game from launch DF has certainly been placed in he wait and see category if even just for a week or two until I can hear what it's all about. I think gamers especially mmo players are an extremely patient bunch as our hobby has taught us to be in this fast paced world we live in more honesty about where a project is at and less when we are going to launch is not a bad thing.
Also the few whispers seem to point to a game that is heading more of the aoc route and less of the eqII which if it happens will not be a good thing.
I've still got some high hopes for this game since for me it could truly be a dream mmo but we can't forget the higher the climb the longer the fall can easily apply here as it has with so many projects to not meet expectations.
i guess i missed it -- what happened to the journalist beta?
or, do we just pretend that the past never exists when it comes to darkfall, and we only pay attention to what is announced on this particular hour?
Orly? Think your the first one to say that here. Proof and you'l silence alot of people, no proof and theres no point making such a claim.
Yeah, because I love breaking the NDA. Give it a day or two and we'll start seeing the leaks. You know where to find them I'm sure.
And I'll be the first to say that I am betting on Darkfall succeeding, not in the numbers of WoW because it IS going to be niche game that 80% of you on here won't be able to handle, but feel free to quote me right here and now if it:
A) never releases
or
B) is buggy and shitty as launch.
I'll put my neck on the line, where are all of you MMORPG morons going to be when you're proven wrong? I expect a swarm of apologies and "you told me so", otherwise grow a pair before dissing a game that's not even out yet.
honestly, reading up on all the supposed ffa pvp in this game and it's pretty carebearish compared to pvp in eve.
all this game is --- is a decade old attempt at remaking ultima online.
and um, do you own stock in the company? do you work for the company? are you receiving some sort of money from this company?
if not, and you're some type of "fan", then you should be promoting the virtues of the game, and pointing people to items that are prove-able, instead of just making up random garbage and pretending to be some sort of heroic defender of tasos.
if you don't know anything, don't act like you do. if you know something, link it up, or shhhh, cuz no one cares about made up fancies in regards to this game.
when? when darkfailers stop spamming the internet poasting about how wondeful darkfail is and how everyone (no matter what game they're currently playing) needs to bow down and worship this rumor of a game.
that's when everyone will move on. thank you very much.
How about YOU grow a pair and actually break the NDA and show some proof...yea....didnt think so. Dont try to step up when you cant even bring your own talk. And ill be RIGHT here waiting for when u actually can step up...dont piss yourself on the way out becoming scared of a so called NDA that cant do squat to anyone. Nuff said
Angry much?
I can tell you all this much, it will be great when the "truth" finally comes out, quotting Age of Conan "Heads Will Roll". Cant say more
occasionally, when someone cuts me off in traffic or runs me off the road. 22-28 year olds asking me for money on the street that are to lazy to get a job. that makes me angy sometimes.
I'm genuinely curious here...
How is what they did today any different that what they said they started doing on Nov. 10th?
Here is the quote from that one:
"We sent out the second batch of beta invites last night and we’re going to continue inviting people as needed by our testing process. There’s no ETA to the invites, we’re moving along based solely on our needs. We might invite more people in as early as tonight, and as frequently as every day. The testers are under strict NDA ..."
forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php
So that is different from today... how? I guess I'm just not seeing the difference here.
I'm genuinely curious here...
How is what they did today any different that what they said they started doing on Nov. 10th?
Here is the quote from that one:
"We sent out the second batch of beta invites last night and we’re going to continue inviting people as needed by our testing process. There’s no ETA to the invites, we’re moving along based solely on our needs. We might invite more people in as early as tonight, and as frequently as every day. The testers are under strict NDA ..."
forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php
So that is different from today... how? I guess I'm just not seeing the difference here.
There is no difference. Both are unsubstantiated claims that they won't actually do.
well not that anyone will believe me but,I know someone who got in.
First wave of invites only a month before you launch? That's bad development right there. No MMO can expect to launch with only 1 month of testing and still be good.
This smells of failure.
Denial of Service attacks!?
I...uh...I mean....have....
Is this the first time an MMO company has actually been brought low from this sort of thing? I don't recall another single one being hit by a DOS and actually suffered anything for it. I'm not saying I know for a FACT its the first, I'm just saying its the first I've ever heard of such.
Sounds kinda hokey to me. I know plenty of websites have endured denial attacks, but its always usually some small site from some inconsequential person. Most major net hotspots are sort of guarded from that kind of thing.
I'm genuinely curious here...
How is what they did today any different that what they said they started doing on Nov. 10th?
Here is the quote from that one:
"We sent out the second batch of beta invites last night and we’re going to continue inviting people as needed by our testing process. There’s no ETA to the invites, we’re moving along based solely on our needs. We might invite more people in as early as tonight, and as frequently as every day. The testers are under strict NDA ..."
forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php
So that is different from today... how? I guess I'm just not seeing the difference here.
you know how fight club has rules? darkfall club has rules as well.
1st rule -- you only remember what is announced today, nothing in the past is relevant
2nd rule -- if someone brings up something from the past (even if that past is as recent as the day before today) you call them a troll
3rd rule -- tasos has never ever given any commitment on a release date. if he happens to give one today, wait until tomorrow and then refer to rules 1 and 2.
4th rule -- there is no darkfall club.
EPIC FAIL! Nuff said.
So from his words as stated above, The NDA will be lifted after stress test.
We shall see if he is true to his words on that one.
And what will they do to the peeps that are stress testing. Kick them out after test is done so they can let the pre-order peeps in. I think the NDA will be lifted after the pre's are commited.
I wouldn't even be suprised at all if they would come up with an excuse like this next month.
They gave these exact kind of excuses before when earlier deadlines of CB and OB were not met.
Cheers
don't forget the journalist beta which started a couple of weeks back.
oh wait....
I wouldn't even be suprised at all if they would come up with an excuse like this next month.
They gave these exact kind of excuses before when earlier deadlines of CB and OB were not met.
Cheers
I think they pulled the plug because the natives started to get pissed off on forumfall. Funny how it just happen to go down when all the flaming started to ramp up
Did they really?
Wow, cos I read that the OB still isnt happening, and the CB is currently going on
I think I slipped through i rift in space time somewhere and came out in the wrong dimension
Did they really?
Wow, cos I read that the OB still isnt happening, and the CB is currently going on
I think I slipped through i rift in space time somewhere and came out in the wrong dimension
You really don't know how to read do you. Taking things out of context.
I was referring to the real release next month.
Enough said.
I don't think this game is real after i see the official web site, is a trash.
Let's look at the facts. We still have not one indication from any known media outlet that they have played this game nor any kind of a review. We do have screen shots and a few videos, so we do know the game most probably exists although as to what state it is in, no one really knows.
I have to take Aventurine's word they they are inviting people to beta, but since the NDA is in place again we have no information. What we really want to know is how playable the game actually is. With the current state of beta, that is not going to happen. With that in mind we can basically laugh at those trying to post positive or negative information on the game because we have to know it is just an opinion, not an actual fact.
We do know from their past that they are good at announce and delay tatics so I would not be surprised towards the latter part of February to see another postponement.
You can speculate all you want, but until I see some proof of a stable game environment and servers that don't overload with 100 people on them we should assume this game is still in early beta test and treat it accordingly.
Actually most of what you said in this quote has already been explained by Aventurine. Just read around and you'll find why most of that happened, instead of focusing on the fact that it happened.
Also, you are completely correct about there not being any US publishing. I won't lie and say that it isn't a little weird sounding, considering it's a huge player base, but they DID in fact give an explanation as to why. Also, you will still be able to play, even if you are located in America (that is, if you want to).
The only real problem I can think of about your post is the "formal beta testing". They were just doing that for the last two months, or am I mistaken?
First off thanks for being a gentlemen in your reply (something you don't get often enough here). With that said, is two months of beta testing is ok with you? TBH it does not fall right with me unless they have figured something out that every other game developer in the world has not.
thats what these invites int he next few days are stress test until they each capacity that how many invites are going out probly around 30k
Problem is, they have less than a month to test a game with 30k players. Sorry but unless the put it off again..that will probably kill this game.
Just to be certain, what's your definition of a "media outlet"? Because they have in fact allowed many sites to play the game and then post a write-up of the development on their sites. If you just direct yourself over to the DFO forums then you can find the links there. Also, they just recently allowed the writer and creator of The Noob to also play, and report, with a more flexible NDA. She has posted several reports on different aspects of the game, along with screenshots.
There are also plenty of sites which carry many more pictures and videos, other than the one's that are posted here on MMORPG.
And just curious, when you say "their past", what are you referring to? I've always heard that Aventurine has only ever announced the release of the game once (if that), and it fell through because development was halted. One time, if that, doesn't necessarily mean that every other time will be a lie.
Then again, it's not my job to defend Aventurine, and I could see how you could doubt that they will be able to stress test their servers in only one month. So maybe you are correct in that sense, but only that one. Everything else is most likely not based off of anything but hearsay.
Although you forget that every video we have seen so far has two key things that make me believe them false. First is that they show people running around fighting with no interface showing. The second thing is in the "gameplay" video, it was all scripted events and even then the NPCs were a joke. Maybe i'm missing the video that shows the interface working and example of real raw gameplay.
Like most mmos, there is normally a video of "this is what your first few levels will be like" and you get to see someone actually running up to a group of mobs, engage them and defeat them. No special scenarios or anything like that. But we haven't seen that from darkfall. To my knowledge, and correct me if i'm wrong, there is no video of, "here we are coming up on the goblins, me and my 2 friends, and lets attack them."
now that i think of it, i dont know of a single video where they explained anything with a narriator.
To me, the videos look just like a project in maya or some other 3d modeling program.
Although you forget that every video we have seen so far has two key things that make me believe them false. First is that they show people running around fighting with no interface showing. The second thing is in the "gameplay" video, it was all scripted events and even then the NPCs were a joke. Maybe i'm missing the video that shows the interface working and example of real raw gameplay.
Like most mmos, there is normally a video of "this is what your first few levels will be like" and you get to see someone actually running up to a group of mobs, engage them and defeat them. No special scenarios or anything like that. But we haven't seen that from darkfall. To my knowledge, and correct me if i'm wrong, there is no video of, "here we are coming up on the goblins, me and my 2 friends, and lets attack them."
now that i think of it, i dont know of a single video where they explained anything with a narriator.
To me, the videos look just like a project in maya or some other 3d modeling program.
www.youtube.com/watch
www.youtube.com/watch
www.youtube.com/watch
www.youtube.com/watch
There you go.
But seriously...a free trial..with an NDA in place? I'm going to assume that the game is a complete failure. I have nothing against NDA's, but when you still have NDA's at THIS stage of the game, you have something bad to hide.
Just to be certain, what's your definition of a "media outlet"? Because they have in fact allowed many sites to play the game and then post a write-up of the development on their sites. If you just direct yourself over to the DFO forums then you can find the links there. Also, they just recently allowed the writer and creator of The Noob to also play, and report, with a more flexible NDA. She has posted several reports on different aspects of the game, along with screenshots.
There are also plenty of sites which carry many more pictures and videos, other than the one's that are posted here on MMORPG.
And just curious, when you say "their past", what are you referring to? I've always heard that Aventurine has only ever announced the release of the game once (if that), and it fell through because development was halted. One time, if that, doesn't necessarily mean that every other time will be a lie.
Then again, it's not my job to defend Aventurine, and I could see how you could doubt that they will be able to stress test their servers in only one month. So maybe you are correct in that sense, but only that one. Everything else is most likely not based off of anything but hearsay.
What a load of Malarky! Media sites? The only media that Aventurine has allowed to see it are those carefully screened nobodies that have never seen nor played a game before. Until we get a review by an experienced game reviewer, the questions about this game will continue to fly.
All I can say is that the only reason most of us can come up with why Aventurine has maintained so much secrecy about the game is that they have something to hide. I would hope that is not the case, but past experience with other developers tells us not.
Aventurine deserves every bit of negative comments they recieve for probably the worst example of how not to market a game ever in the genre. Then to top it off the front person comes across with a huge chip on his shoulder....
The problem is that all of us one time or another have been burned by these small indy developers so the "you have to trust them" comments just mainly draw laughter any more.
What a load of Malarky! Media sites? The only media that Aventurine has allowed to see it are those carefully screened nobodies that have never seen nor played a game before. Until we get a review by an experienced game reviewer, the questions about this game will continue to fly.
All I can say is that the only reason most of us can come up with why Aventurine has maintained so much secrecy about the game is that they have something to hide. I would hope that is not the case, but past experience with other developers tells us not.
Aventurine deserves every bit of negative comments they recieve for probably the worst example of how not to market a game ever in the genre. Then to top it off the front person comes across with a huge chip on his shoulder....
Dude there are dozens of beta leaks out there, and plenty more if you speak multiple languages or can use google translate.
did you ever consider the possibility they simply want to keep large portions of the game a surprise? you can read all the way back to 2001 that they have said over and over they were not going to disclose or release any info regarding various portions of the game. they have been absolutely consistent on this.
what MMO developer has ever explcitly said they wanted to keep their community small to begin with? that "hype is huge around Darkfall at the moment, despite our best efforts"? releasing more info than they want to or allowing reviews of the game in high traffic sites/publications only hypes the game more, the opposite of what they are trying to achieve.
Quite frankly i find their approach to be refreshingly honest and straightforward, in an industry where all MMOs under development are trying to out-WOW WOW and players have come to EXPECT that developers are massively distorting the truth of their game.
As always, if you don't like the game, don't buy it and don't play it.
Well...
DF forums are down since yesterday, they say there is a DDOS attack on their forums...
But, I am not really buying it.
I think there is two possibilities or a mix of the two.
1st - there is some Beta-leaks sites around, and as soon as they invited more people, these became more active. If i was in the place of Aventurine I may have also reacted like this, and shut down everything.
On a side note, I can't understand how many of these people are getting in to beta while many honest testers are left out, that would have never leaked info.
2nd - Aventurine did not budget for any elaborate marketing campaign, they made their game with a 10th of what it touk to make WAR, and they always said they were relying on word of mouth.
So, i think, this all, and including how they seem to change meanings of terminology, is all part of an elaborate strategy to give that word of mouth a nudge.
Because if you think about it, right when they announced trial and first wave on invites the forums went down and thousands of people are now in other forums (not unlike all of us here) talking about Darkfall. Free Marketing.
It is smart...but it may back fire too.
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Ironically, if they are really experiencing DDOS attacks whomever is trying to do them harm, is doing them a very big service in reality.
Just a few thoughts.
with ya 100% ... been watching for 9 years and the game is promising and i believe it will debut, but i will gladly let the euro's, fawnboi's and other gullible morons pre-order and beta test the game for me and my own. darkfall has always been promising for being the initiate in sandbox games, but damn, how many decades do you need? let's say darkfall opens with a multitude of individuals and it succeeds ... it will soon have a mass exodus for mortal online and any other sandbox game soon thereafter.
with ya 100% ... been watching for 9 years and the game is promising and i believe it will debut, but i will gladly let the euro's, fawnboi's and other gullible morons pre-order and beta test the game for me and my own. darkfall has always been promising for being the initiate in sandbox games, but damn, how many decades do you need? let's say darkfall opens with a multitude of individuals and it succeeds ... it will soon have a mass exodus for mortal online and any other sandbox game soon thereafter.
Darkfall has been in development for 5 years...
Darkfall has been in development for 5 years...
5 years my ass ... been apart of df's forums since january '05 and joined ONLY after my buds begged me for 2 years. that being after i researched the fact they began in may of '00. get your shit straight fawnboi.
" why can't ppl learn to google, since the education system suks around the world? "
Technically speaking, you should legally be able to tell people you received an invite until you sign the NDA.
technically speaking, you should be able to post your beta invite anonymously, and beta LEAKS, on any of a multitude of leak.com sites. none of these beta posts exists you guys. again, i say the game will open, but in the end it will either be like dark and light, or better yet, most will flee to another sandbox game within a few months after opening.
Darkfall has been in development for 5 years...
5 years my ass ... been apart of df's forums since january '05 and joined ONLY after my buds begged me for 2 years. that being after i researched the fact they began in may of '00. get your shit straight fawnboi.
" why can't ppl learn to google, since the education system suks around the world? "
Darkfall started development in 2003 with Aventurine.
Darkfall under Razorwax, was in a different country, and was a basement project of 4 people before moving to Greece. Read Aventurine's press release, they say it themselves that development started in 2003.
5 years my ass ... been apart of df's forums since january '05 and joined ONLY after my buds begged me for 2 years. that being after i researched the fact they began in may of '00. get your shit straight fawnboi.
" why can't ppl learn to google, since the education system suks around the world? "
Darkfall started development in 2003 with Aventurine.
Darkfall under Razorwax, was in a different country, and was a basement project of 4 people before moving to Greece. Read Aventurine's press release, they say it themselves that development started in 2003.
wow yet another poster that spews misinformation.
Will someone kindly post the quote from a Darkfall dev who states that the game in 2003 remains unchanged from 2001 please.
Fact, game has been in development since 2001 which means 8.5 years. not 5.
5 years my ass ... been apart of df's forums since january '05 and joined ONLY after my buds begged me for 2 years. that being after i researched the fact they began in may of '00. get your shit straight fawnboi.
" why can't ppl learn to google, since the education system suks around the world? "
Darkfall started development in 2003 with Aventurine.
Darkfall under Razorwax, was in a different country, and was a basement project of 4 people before moving to Greece. Read Aventurine's press release, they say it themselves that development started in 2003.
wow yet another poster that spews misinformation.
Will someone kindly post the quote from a Darkfall dev who states that the game in 2003 remains unchanged from 2001 please.
Fact, game has been in development since 2001 which means 8.5 years. not 5.
yep ... ty so very much for the info! for those not-so-inclined to do any 2 minutes worth of research, df WILL open, and it will prevail ... for moments. the problem in the end, is WILL they keep the base? no ... nO ... NO!! most pvp'ers will move on i believe, once other sandbox games like mortal online are in place.
5 years my ass ... been apart of df's forums since january '05 and joined ONLY after my buds begged me for 2 years. that being after i researched the fact they began in may of '00. get your shit straight fawnboi.
" why can't ppl learn to google, since the education system suks around the world? "
Darkfall started development in 2003 with Aventurine.
Darkfall under Razorwax, was in a different country, and was a basement project of 4 people before moving to Greece. Read Aventurine's press release, they say it themselves that development started in 2003.
wow yet another poster that spews misinformation.
Will someone kindly post the quote from a Darkfall dev who states that the game in 2003 remains unchanged from 2001 please.
Fact, game has been in development since 2001 which means 8.5 years. not 5.
Official press release by Aventurine vs your random dev quote... hmmm. Obvious answer is obvious.
Darkfall has been in development for 5 years...
Well sorry to shatter you silly argument. But all sources say it started in 2001. Sure they have had some restarts, but it is clear initial development was 2001 and that is 8 years, not 5. It is quite easy to see by looking at th videos too, the engine is quite dated. Let us hope we can ignore that with good game play when they finally release it.