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Darkfall News - Ready for Release in December

Posted by Keith Cross on Nov 03, 2008  | 69 comments in our forums

The folks at Darkfall have posted an update on the games status on their official forums, mentioning while showing at the Athens Digital Week that the game would finish testing in December and at that point the game would be ready for release.

The announcement during ADW was that the open beta phase is scheduled to end early in December. More importantly this means that the game will be ready to release at that point. Marketing consideration kept us from just announcing a release date. The game will be ready for release, and the launch may follow directly, or shortly after, depending on the marketing landscape at the time. Obviously the earlier the better for us, but there are a lot of things needing coordination for the launch, internal and external. So our side of things (meaning the development end) will be ready.

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banthis writes:

..maybe I missed something but didn't they only officially start closed beta testing like a month or two ago?? If they're using this short a period of test time I smell foul.

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11/03/08 11:59:56 AM
 
kingtommyboy writes:

no, i heard they are already testing a longer time, the game should be almost ready now

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11/03/08 12:09:09 PM
 
Roosevelt writes:
Originally posted by banthis

..maybe I missed something but didn't they only officially start closed beta testing like a month or two ago?? If they're using this short a period of test time I smell foul.


 

Sorry If I am about to come off as rude but how in the blue Skys of Arcadia is there something foul about this? Heres a simple breakdown of the possible outcomes of DarkFall as of right now.

  1. Open beta Begins
  • You download the client (if not your adventure ends here)

      2.    You Play the game (for free)

  • You like the game and buy it a month later and reach a state of nirvana similar to that of a drug induced comma.
  • You dislike the game and rant on the forums about how it did not live up to the giant steaming hype train that just rolled out of town.

 

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11/03/08 12:15:27 PM
 
kiersteadmo writes:

its good, seasm things are on track, peopel have to realize that most of the population will be international, i have buddies that still have not heard of the game yet and am telling them to look into it :)

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11/03/08 12:37:43 PM
 
Herithius writes:

This will be by far the most interesting of mmorpg releases that we have seen in some time.  There is a huge potential for success and an equally huge one for a total disaster.

I think Darkfall will dissapoint a lot of it's fans since a lot of them are expecting quite a lot.  Its going to be laggy, bug riddled and missing some features to be sure but at the core it's trying to be what a lot of fans want and those willing to look past it may have a good time.

After waiting for quite some time I'll probably be buying it regardless due to my curiosity if nothing else.

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11/03/08 12:52:54 PM
 
openedge1 writes:

The issue is just earlier this year this game was noted as Vaporware...

Now, it will release for Christmas? And the fact people think this game will rock?

Can we not look at Age of Cona or WAR to see what Hype gets ya?

 

This game smells like fail.

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11/03/08 1:20:27 PM
 
Mannish writes:

This game has been in development for almost 10 years so there is no excuse for it not being ready. I will try out the Beta to see if this game lives up to the hype but I am not expecting much. I am glad its comming out so the Darkfall fanboys can finally stop trolling the other forums talking about how great the game is going to be.

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11/03/08 1:34:25 PM
 
Nithoniniel writes:
Originally posted by openedge1

The issue is just earlier this year this game was noted as Vaporware...

Now, it will release for Christmas? And the fact people think this game will rock?

Can we not look at Age of Cona or WAR to see what Hype gets ya?

 

This game smells like fail.

Has nothing to do with it. Age of Conan and WAR disappointed cause they were released too early. There is absolutely NOTHING pointing at Darkfall doing the same, rather the opposite.

And there will always be Vaporware-rumours about Darkfall. There has been rumours for as long as I've known about it, there are still vaporware-rumours as I write this and there will probably still be some after its released.

And Hype has nothing to do with how the game is. It's just ridiculous to say Age of Conan and WAR failed cause they were hyped. They were hyped cause they promised to deliver a lot that they later on didn't. That doesn't mean that every game that is hyped wont be good.

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11/03/08 1:35:04 PM
 
MMO-Rogue writes:

I am hopeful but at the same time wondering where all the necessities of a prepared release are? There is a lot that should occur before a release I have not seen occur or planned yet.

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11/03/08 1:38:33 PM
 
Fargin writes:

They have been testing this game with paid betatesters for years. So they only have to do stress testing and give people a chance to test the game for free so they can say if they like it or not.

So everything shows that they are pretty much ready for a launch in December.

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11/03/08 3:08:05 PM
 
Abrahmm writes:
Originally posted by Herithius

This will be by far the most interesting of mmorpg releases that we have seen in some time.  There is a huge potential for success and an equally huge one for a total disaster.

I think Darkfall will dissapoint a lot of it's fans since a lot of them are expecting quite a lot.  Its going to be laggy, bug riddled and missing some features to be sure but at the core it's trying to be what a lot of fans want and those willing to look past it may have a good time.

After waiting for quite some time I'll probably be buying it regardless due to my curiosity if nothing else.

 

Nicely said. As many know, I am a huge skeptic of this game, and continue to be even with this announcment. I will be extremely surprised if they really release with such a short testing period, but if they do and the game is good I'll gladly eat my words.

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11/03/08 3:12:54 PM
 
Hives writes:

Good news but I still have my doubts about how people will handle world pvp that never play UO Felucca. I can see the forums now....

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11/03/08 3:16:31 PM
 
Boreil writes:

          

           Its funny how so many people harp on how long the game has been in development and how they only release the base info on the game ( all we need) and how they don't do things exactly like every other mmorpg company ( most of which have  put out a half finished product ).  This game was pushed out early, that game was pushed out early , if this game or that or that game or that game etc.  had more time it would have been finished etc etc etc . then at the same time they look at Df and say its been in development way to long totally forgetting everything they just said . They  complain about how this or that game was released to early or ruched out or un-finished etc , then at the same time turn around in another thread and bash some other game for taking too long . Just becouse they dont do things  the same as all these other mmorpg makers ( who havent put out a finished product in many years) they are doing it wrong.

 

Then you have the ones who say there isnt enough info on the game out ( totally wrong , we know everything we need to know)  sooo many games put out gobs and gobs of info on the game to the point that we know 75% of the game before we even install it . The only info we need to know about a game is what type of game it is , how it will play, how it will work , and thats it( Df has put out way more than that) . I actualy like to explore the game and find out things on my own without knowing half the games total details before i even play it.

 

The game will release , it will be laggy at first, it will have  bugg's etc , these thing are un avoidable , its going to be nothing much more than a large scale sandbox skill based hack and slash / FPS pvp mmorpg with a huge open world and heavy focus on empire building  . Its not going to be perfect shape at launch that would be rediculous to expect specialy in this type of situation.  Im sure even with its downfalls hundreds of thousands of player who have been waiting for this type of game will play it and enjoy it , if not for the simple fact there isnt nothing else like it on the market these days .

 

If darkfall ends up totally failing then all these rabid DF fans will move on to the next project , they will not go away or quiet down, just move on to something else , maybe Mortal Online is next for the hype/vaporware struggle , it will never end till something with all the features of Df  or more all rolled into one playable game gets put on the market.

 

I realy hope Datkfall delivers and releases in a good playable state as they say it will , otherwise my self and many many other will have nothing to play yet again for the next few years .

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11/03/08 3:59:48 PM
 
shoshodem writes:

I'm happy to know beta is around the corner. I don't believe in words such as fanboy and trolls. To all is such. You either like it when it hits or you don't, everything inbetween and after is solemnly entertainment to the masses who decide to read your reply to a thread about a game ready for release in December.

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11/03/08 4:16:11 PM
 
openedge1 writes:
Originally posted by Nithoniniel
Originally posted by openedge1

The issue is just earlier this year this game was noted as Vaporware...

Now, it will release for Christmas? And the fact people think this game will rock?

Can we not look at Age of Cona or WAR to see what Hype gets ya?

 

This game smells like fail.

Has nothing to do with it. Age of Conan and WAR disappointed cause they were released too early. There is absolutely NOTHING pointing at Darkfall doing the same, rather the opposite.

And there will always be Vaporware-rumours about Darkfall. There has been rumours for as long as I've known about it, there are still vaporware-rumours as I write this and there will probably still be some after its released.

And Hype has nothing to do with how the game is. It's just ridiculous to say Age of Conan and WAR failed cause they were hyped. They were hyped cause they promised to deliver a lot that they later on didn't. That doesn't mean that every game that is hyped wont be good.

Can you point me to any game over the last couple of years that met the hype?

Tabula Rasa? = Fail

Vanguard? = Fail

LOTRO? = Fail

I can go on if you wish...

None of these games can even get just a paltry 1 million scrips.

Yet, here we go again. The fanboy regime has been high on the hog hyping Darkfall in any forum they can touch in overdrive...like it is the second coming.

There is no way it can live up to that type of scrutiny.

As to Vaporware rumors, as one person said...this game has been discussed close to 10 years? In one form or other (I would like to see that corroborated. I only know of at least 3+). How is that NOT like Vapor.

Yes, it is real now, but there is no way it can meet any expectations.

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11/03/08 4:23:19 PM
 
Arawon writes:

Glad this was announced here.The news is quite old.I thought it was being posted because it was current information.

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11/03/08 4:33:25 PM
 
Ozmodan writes:

Sorry, but the chances of Darkfall releasing this year and slim and none.  Anyone who thinks differently is depending on blind faith from a firm that has consistently NEVER met an announced date. Supposedly,  they are still in a very limited closed beta, if a game actually exists, because at this point NO ONE has ever seen the actual game.

Sorry if I seem a bit skeptical, but when an outfit like Adventurine cries wolf as many times as they have without ever showing the game or following through on a announced date, it is almost mandatory to be leary of anything they say.

Let a known reviewer actually play the game and report on the state of the game.  Until then, this game will continue to be the king of Vaporware.

 

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FudgyNeeples writes:
Originally posted by Ozmodan

Sorry, but the chances of Darkfall releasing this year and slim and none.  Anyone who thinks differently is depending on blind faith from a firm that has consistently NEVER met an announced date. Supposedly,  they are still in a very limited closed beta, if a game actually exists, because at this point NO ONE has ever seen the actual game.

Sorry if I seem a bit skeptical, but when an outfit like Adventurine cries wolf as many times as they have without ever showing the game or following through on a announced date, it is almost mandatory to be leary of anything they say.

Let a known reviewer actually play the game and report on the state of the game.  Until then, this game will continue to be the king of Vaporware.

 

 

Are you serious? They were playing the game live during a game convention a few weeks ago. If you still believe that it's vaporware, then you're just a failing troll.

Here's a video taken by someone who actually attended: darkfallworld.com/node/128

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11/03/08 5:11:49 PM
 
openedge1 writes:
Originally posted by FudgyNeeples
Originally posted by Ozmodan

Sorry, but the chances of Darkfall releasing this year and slim and none.  Anyone who thinks differently is depending on blind faith from a firm that has consistently NEVER met an announced date. Supposedly,  they are still in a very limited closed beta, if a game actually exists, because at this point NO ONE has ever seen the actual game.

Sorry if I seem a bit skeptical, but when an outfit like Adventurine cries wolf as many times as they have without ever showing the game or following through on a announced date, it is almost mandatory to be leary of anything they say.

Let a known reviewer actually play the game and report on the state of the game.  Until then, this game will continue to be the king of Vaporware.

 

 

Are you serious? They were playing the game live during a game convention a few weeks ago. If you still believe that it's vaporware, then you're just a failing troll.

Here's a video taken by someone who actually attended: darkfallworld.com/node/128

Anybody here play the game called Two Worlds? (for PC or Xbox 360?)

That is exactly what that video looked like...

Quality equals....uh...questionable.

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11/03/08 5:30:05 PM
 
Kyleran writes:

DFO releasing in December? We can only hope.  If not though, I'll still be playing EVE. 

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11/03/08 5:37:48 PM
 
AlienShirt writes:

Ready for release? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!

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11/03/08 5:42:44 PM
 
Nithoniniel writes:

Saying Darkfall is still vaporware is... well it is ridiculous. There are lots of questionable things about Darkfall, I admit that, but it's really not vaporware.

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11/03/08 5:43:56 PM
 
angelana89 writes:

But I always wonder, Will it be pay to play or free to play because to me, it doesn't need to be pay to play at all.

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11/03/08 6:42:10 PM
 
kotz writes:
Originally posted by Nithoniniel
Originally posted by openedge1

The issue is just earlier this year this game was noted as Vaporware...

Now, it will release for Christmas? And the fact people think this game will rock?

Can we not look at Age of Cona or WAR to see what Hype gets ya?

 

This game smells like fail.

Has nothing to do with it. Age of Conan and WAR disappointed cause they were released too early. There is absolutely NOTHING pointing at Darkfall doing the same, rather the opposite.

And there will always be Vaporware-rumours about Darkfall. There has been rumours for as long as I've known about it, there are still vaporware-rumours as I write this and there will probably still be some after its released.

And Hype has nothing to do with how the game is. It's just ridiculous to say Age of Conan and WAR failed cause they were hyped. They were hyped cause they promised to deliver a lot that they later on didn't. That doesn't mean that every game that is hyped wont be good.

Agree.

We have seen almost 10 years of development.

Updates in all areas, graphic, content etc etc.

All this delay might have been on purpose to make it as polished as possible before release.

If you put a finished product on the market and with the amount of content/features Darkfall will offer, we will see something amazing.

But if there is alot of stuff being removed we will see fail.

I beleive its the first impression that will stay in the mind of the consumer.

Just make a solid good mmo, that works.

We have many working games out there already.

So players doesnt want to spend months in a buggy non working environment..

We are spoiled.

 

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11/03/08 6:54:45 PM
 
ardohain writes:

i'll believe darkfall is released once i see it on the shelf. a physical box that i can open with a dvd install disc and a key code. i will not believe any release story until then...

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11/03/08 7:01:57 PM
 
downtoearth writes:
Originally posted by ardohain

i'll believe darkfall is released once i see it on the shelf. a physical box that i can open with a dvd install disc and a key code. i will not believe any release story until then...


 

1 flaw usa may have to download from a digital dist to play on the eu servers

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11/03/08 7:58:49 PM
 
Boreil writes:
Originally posted by ardohain

i'll believe darkfall is released once i see it on the shelf. a physical box that i can open with a dvd install disc and a key code. i will not believe any release story until then...

 

Then go on , dont follow Df or hold your breath , you may never get a box release depending on your area and what happens ,  it might be DD only for some people , only difference at all what so ever is you dont have a cardboard square with a plastic cd and a paper book in it , big deal..

 

I too realy like to have a box version , i would love nothing more than to have a nice looking DF box so i can set it next to my pc screen and swoon over it every time i look up , but if that doesnt happen its not going to change the game or my interst in it in the least.

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11/03/08 8:04:17 PM
 
flakmonky writes:
Originally posted by openedge1
Originally posted by Nithoniniel
Originally posted by openedge1

The issue is just earlier this year this game was noted as Vaporware...

Now, it will release for Christmas? And the fact people think this game will rock?

Can we not look at Age of Cona or WAR to see what Hype gets ya?

 

This game smells like fail.

Has nothing to do with it. Age of Conan and WAR disappointed cause they were released too early. There is absolutely NOTHING pointing at Darkfall doing the same, rather the opposite.

And there will always be Vaporware-rumours about Darkfall. There has been rumours for as long as I've known about it, there are still vaporware-rumours as I write this and there will probably still be some after its released.

And Hype has nothing to do with how the game is. It's just ridiculous to say Age of Conan and WAR failed cause they were hyped. They were hyped cause they promised to deliver a lot that they later on didn't. That doesn't mean that every game that is hyped wont be good.

Can you point me to any game over the last couple of years that met the hype?

Tabula Rasa? = Fail

Vanguard? = Fail

LOTRO? = Fail

I can go on if you wish...

None of these games can even get just a paltry 1 million scrips.

Yet, here we go again. The fanboy regime has been high on the hog hyping Darkfall in any forum they can touch in overdrive...like it is the second coming.

There is no way it can live up to that type of scrutiny.

As to Vaporware rumors, as one person said...this game has been discussed close to 10 years? In one form or other (I would like to see that corroborated. I only know of at least 3+). How is that NOT like Vapor.

Yes, it is real now, but there is no way it can meet any expectations.

 

His point is that hyping does not automatically equal failure. Something you seemed to miss. I would also like like to point out that the hype for DF is entirely generated by the fans. I was not privy to the hype for you examples, but I would ask you: how many of these games did the company advertise like crazy before they even began beta? (Note: if you look carefully at the announcement you will see that Tasos speaks in the past and present tenses about actions performed by public beta testers.)

 A paltry one million subs? What are you smoking? One million subs is a huge number compared to most MMOs out there. If you would compare it to WoW then I would suggest that look up what an outlier is. WoW is not indicative of the average MMO. In fact, it's subscriber base is so incogruous with that of most MMOs that it is quite likely in that catagory where it's number is thrown out when determining the average (outlier).

Also, since when did 8 become equivalent to 10?

 

Just thought you might be interested in forumfalls reaction to your post.

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gamerman98 writes:

Sorry to rain on the parade here...but I can imagine that although the game is launching...I know that there will not be any physical box in the EBgames here due to the name. They have to change their name to something else if they want to release in NA. guess all we will see here is EU servers. I can just imagine how frustrated NA residents will get when this game "launches"

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11/03/08 9:12:09 PM
 
ganbee writes:

OMG,

Is something burning, Dam you Darkfall for setting these flames! You and your non-hyped machine. 8 years in the making what where you thinking? Making a game ready to realease what are you mad?

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11/03/08 9:12:32 PM
 
denshing writes:
Originally posted by openedge1

The issue is just earlier this year this game was noted as Vaporware...

Now, it will release for Christmas? And the fact people think this game will rock?

Can we not look at Age of Cona or WAR to see what Hype gets ya?

 

This game smells like fail.


 

No, its just people who have gotton used to fail after fail get used to thinkin everything that gets close to release has to fail. Keep in mind, this game is not AOC, This game is not WAR. And with both WAR and AOC i knew they would either fail, or do well and have a bunch of "dummies" trolling forums saying how much it sucks. There is not a MMO in all of history, that hasnt had some guy say he "KNOWS IT FAILED ON EPIC PROPORTIONS".. You my fellow forumer are one of these people. Also, since when does "Vaporware" and "Fail or Success" Have ANYTHING to do with eachother. All this news has done is shut up alot of vapor trollers, but we see the ignorance in the fact that some still go on. Be as realistic as you want, Hell even i wont guarentee this game will be a success. But If you smell fail already, you have some problems.

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11/03/08 10:35:08 PM
 
SignusM writes:
Originally posted by openedge1

The issue is just earlier this year this game was noted as Vaporware...

Now, it will release for Christmas? And the fact people think this game will rock?

Can we not look at Age of Cona or WAR to see what Hype gets ya?

 

This game smells like fail.

 

Correction, earlier this year, very foolish and silly people considered it vaporware. The proof has been out there for anyone that wanted to look. They would just much rather laugh at this game than support it though. People are morons that way. It didnt' go from "vaporz" to "release" in no time flat, because it was never vaporware...

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11/03/08 11:25:29 PM
 
jay8378 writes:

Tasos said along time ago that they are going to test it so much that it'll be ready for release very soon after beta. He's just holding to his word.

 

Yes its been hyped but it's all been underground hype....not media hollywood bull$#1+, like most AAA MMO's out there.

 

I'm not a fanboi. It could fail but it could be great too. If it fails I will lose hope for the MMO universe until another seeming limitless non linear game comes out.

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11/03/08 11:26:13 PM
 
SignusM writes:
Originally posted by openedge1
Originally posted by Nithoniniel
Originally posted by openedge1

The issue is just earlier this year this game was noted as Vaporware...

Now, it will release for Christmas? And the fact people think this game will rock?

Can we not look at Age of Cona or WAR to see what Hype gets ya?

 

This game smells like fail.

Has nothing to do with it. Age of Conan and WAR disappointed cause they were released too early. There is absolutely NOTHING pointing at Darkfall doing the same, rather the opposite.

And there will always be Vaporware-rumours about Darkfall. There has been rumours for as long as I've known about it, there are still vaporware-rumours as I write this and there will probably still be some after its released.

And Hype has nothing to do with how the game is. It's just ridiculous to say Age of Conan and WAR failed cause they were hyped. They were hyped cause they promised to deliver a lot that they later on didn't. That doesn't mean that every game that is hyped wont be good.

Can you point me to any game over the last couple of years that met the hype?

Tabula Rasa? = Fail 

Vanguard? = Fail

LOTRO? = Fail Wait what? This game didn't even remotely fail. All the hype was for Middle Earth Online, which got the axe a year before LotRO was released (a facelift of MEO). There were no high expectations for LotRO, and it had the best launch of any MMO in the past 5 years. Almost 100% bug free. Doesn't make it a great game though...

I can go on if you wish...

None of these games can even get just a paltry 1 million scrips.1 million is not a paltry number by any standards. 200k is considered a great success. WoW is just an outlier, not applicable to normal MMO standards. Its not something possbile to reproduce, as much as companies try. They'd somehoe have to make a more dumbed down game than WoW is, problem is, all those noobs the easy games(WoW) cater to, are already playing WoW. There are no more. 

Yet, here we go again. The fanboy regime has been high on the hog hyping Darkfall in any forum they can touch in overdrive...like it is the second coming.

There is no way it can live up to that type of scrutiny.

As to Vaporware rumors, as one person said...this game has been discussed close to 10 years? In one form or other (I would like to see that corroborated. I only know of at least 3+). How is that NOT like Vapor. 7 years. 

Yes, it is real now, but there is no way it can meet any expectations.

 

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11/03/08 11:31:33 PM
 
theanimedude writes:

So, I just watched the video that was previously linked... and here's what I see:

The UI -- The interface rivals that of Anarchy Online... that's right, an age old, ancient MMO. That is EXACTLY what this interface looks like. There's no style, no graphics, just plain blue lines, text, and black, hooray?

The Animation -- The characters walk like they have sticks up their arses, and look at that mount animation... the mount is bobbing like a freaking pendulum, congrats on the least life-like animations ever boys, congrats.

Walking -- Yes... walking. Seriously. I have never seen anyone walk that slow. What, are we going to attack each other at a snails pace, and see who gets bored first?

Graphics -- The graphics look good. Not great, but good. Everything looks a little too plastic for me, but still, it's not that bad.

All in all though, ready for release? You've got to be kidding me. PS, at the end of the video THE GAME CRASHES!!! Are you kidding me? HA.

If you're looking forward to this game, cool... but honestly, if not even the devs can make it look fun, who can?

EDIT: Here's the video that was previously linked, if anyone wants to see what i'm talking about.

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11/04/08 12:29:29 AM
 
SignusM writes:
Originally posted by theanimedude

So, I just watched the video that was previously linked... and here's what I see:

The UI -- The interface rivals that of Anarchy Online... that's right, an age old, ancient MMO. That is EXACTLY what this interface looks like. There's no style, no graphics, just plain blue lines, text, and black, hooray?

The UI resembles Ultima Online and Dark Age of Camelot. That is EXACTLY what people want. I am sick of the giant clunky WoW UI that covers 80% of the screen. I want to see the GAME.

The Animation -- The characters walk like they have sticks up their arses, and look at that mount animation... the mount is bobbing like a freaking pendulum, congrats on the least life-like animations ever boys, congrats.

Animation could use some work, but in a game with twitch PvP, you're not going to notice or care.

Walking -- Yes... walking. Seriously. I have never seen anyone walk that slow. What, are we going to attack each other at a snails pace, and see who gets bored first?

Thats what ships, mounts, and spells are for...

Graphics -- The graphics look good. Not great, but good. Everything looks a little too plastic for me, but still, it's not that bad.

All in all though, ready for release? You've got to be kidding me. PS, at the end of the video THE GAME CRASHES!!! Are you kidding me? HA.

The game doesn't crash, he looses connection to the internet, and everyone in the room laughs because they know Greek wireless sucks.

If you're looking forward to this game, cool... but honestly, if not even the devs can make it look fun, who can?

EDIT: Here's the video that was previously linked, if anyone wants to see what i'm talking about.

 

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11/04/08 12:42:26 AM
 
daelnor writes:

The riding mount animations look retarded, but over all it didn't look too bad.

I liked the archery and spell first person. Most games hose that up horribly.

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11/04/08 1:42:07 AM
 
nileq writes:
Originally posted by Ozmodan

Sorry, but the chances of Darkfall releasing this year and slim and none.  Anyone who thinks differently is depending on blind faith from a firm that has consistently NEVER met an announced date. Supposedly,  they are still in a very limited closed beta, if a game actually exists, because at this point NO ONE has ever seen the actual game.

Sorry if I seem a bit skeptical, but when an outfit like Adventurine cries wolf as many times as they have without ever showing the game or following through on a announced date, it is almost mandatory to be leary of anything they say.

Let a known reviewer actually play the game and report on the state of the game.  Until then, this game will continue to be the king of Vaporware.

 

 

Oh you are trolling Ozmodan, you cannot have missed this:  http://darkfallworld.com/?q=node/43 have a look and tell me that 1000nds of people have NOT seen the game on the internet (watching that movie) and please tell me that NOONE in that room saw it beeing played infront of their eyes.. comon better trolling next time.

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11/04/08 2:13:35 AM
 
Thoric485 writes:

I'm a fanboy and even i don't believe that. A 3-4 week beta is just too short to fix all the bugs that will come up. I doubt they'll rush the game now after 7 years of constant delays that have almost completely destroyed their credibility in the eyes of the MMO community.

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11/04/08 2:13:59 AM
 
nileq writes:
Originally posted by ardohain

i'll believe darkfall is released once i see it on the shelf. a physical box that i can open with a dvd install disc and a key code. i will not believe any release story until then...

 

then the game will probably never be released in your book, I beleive DFO will feature download only.

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11/04/08 2:16:29 AM
 
javac writes:
Originally posted by Ozmodan

Sorry, but the chances of Darkfall releasing this year and slim and none.  Anyone who thinks differently is depending on blind faith from a firm that has consistently NEVER met an announced date. Supposedly,  they are still in a very limited closed beta, if a game actually exists, because at this point NO ONE has ever seen the actual game.

Sorry if I seem a bit skeptical, but when an outfit like Adventurine cries wolf as many times as they have without ever showing the game or following through on a announced date, it is almost mandatory to be leary of anything they say.

 

They have never announced an official release or beta date.

 

There is recent footage of them playing the game for almost half an hour, plus 7 other gameplay videos and over 620 screenshots.

 

You fail.

 

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11/04/08 4:33:10 AM
 
javac writes:
Originally posted by theanimedude

All in all though, ready for release? You've got to be kidding me. PS, at the end of the video THE GAME CRASHES!!! Are you kidding me? HA.

 

They lose connection, it doesn't crash. Seriously, who these days *doesn't* know what the windows alt-tab animation looks like?

 

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11/04/08 4:36:55 AM
 
downtoearth writes:
Originally posted by nileq
Originally posted by ardohain

i'll believe darkfall is released once i see it on the shelf. a physical box that i can open with a dvd install disc and a key code. i will not believe any release story until then...

 

then the game will probably never be released in your book, I beleive DFO will feature download only.


 

it will be on the shelf in EU because of AV

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11/04/08 4:41:30 AM
 
Ozmodan writes:

 

Originally posted by javac
Originally posted by Ozmodan

Sorry, but the chances of Darkfall releasing this year and slim and none.  Anyone who thinks differently is depending on blind faith from a firm that has consistently NEVER met an announced date. Supposedly,  they are still in a very limited closed beta, if a game actually exists, because at this point NO ONE has ever seen the actual game.

Sorry if I seem a bit skeptical, but when an outfit like Adventurine cries wolf as many times as they have without ever showing the game or following through on a announced date, it is almost mandatory to be leary of anything they say.

 

They have never announced an official release or beta date.

 

There is recent footage of them playing the game for almost half an hour, plus 7 other gameplay videos and over 620 screenshots.

 

You fail.

 


 

Excuse me, if you want to blindly believe that a company that has consistently failed to allow any outsider to actually play the game and report on it, actually has a playable game you are truely overly trusting.  All those videos only show what they want you to see.  It is so easy to stage video of what you know as working in the game and then put it on the web.   You can do that with any game that is years from release. 

If they have such a great game then why are they hiding it?  Huh?  The only reason to hide anything, especially in this industry, is if you have something to hide.    So far Adventurine has done nothing to make us trust them.  They are basically good at hype and disinformation, beyond that who knows.

Personally I would love to see one of these Indie firms put out something worthwhile.  The big gorilla's in this industry won't budge from the Wow mold and will only change if someone small takes a chance and succeeds.  

 

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11/04/08 6:51:47 AM
 
mrmeloni writes:
Originally posted by openedge1

The issue is just earlier this year this game was noted as Vaporware...

Now, it will release for Christmas? And the fact people think this game will rock?

Can we not look at Age of Cona or WAR to see what Hype gets ya?

 

This game smells like fail.

 

The devs never poured loads into marketting and hype like the aoc or war devs, infact Darkfall never received any hype other than what a few fans gave it and the hype is due it being the only real full pvp game in the making for quite a few years.

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11/04/08 6:57:29 AM
 
imbant writes:
Originally posted by Ozmodan

 

Originally posted by javac
Originally posted by Ozmodan

Sorry, but the chances of Darkfall releasing this year and slim and none.  Anyone who thinks differently is depending on blind faith from a firm that has consistently NEVER met an announced date. Supposedly,  they are still in a very limited closed beta, if a game actually exists, because at this point NO ONE has ever seen the actual game.

Sorry if I seem a bit skeptical, but when an outfit like Adventurine cries wolf as many times as they have without ever showing the game or following through on a announced date, it is almost mandatory to be leary of anything they say.

 

They have never announced an official release or beta date.

 

There is recent footage of them playing the game for almost half an hour, plus 7 other gameplay videos and over 620 screenshots.

 

You fail.

 


 

Excuse me, if you want to blindly believe that a company that has consistently failed to allow any outsider to actually play the game and report on it, actually has a playable game you are truely overly trusting.  All those videos only show what they want you to see.  It is so easy to stage video of what you know as working in the game and then put it on the web.   You can do that with any game that is years from release. 

If they have such a great game then why are they hiding it?  Huh?  The only reason to hide anything, especially in this industry, is if you have something to hide.    So far Adventurine has done nothing to make us trust them.  They are basically good at hype and disinformation, beyond that who knows.

Personally I would love to see one of these Indie firms put out something worthwhile.  The big gorilla's in this industry won't budge from the Wow mold and will only change if someone small takes a chance and succeeds.  

 


 

Excuse me if you only seem to get your info from this website and not the official one.

They have welcomed at least 2 people to play their game live in the studios and have reported on it.

They arent hiding anything.  Unless you consider a 17min 100% ingame footage video, and a 30min+ live demonstration of the game being played online (not some offline mode) at a convention hiding...then i dont know.

And as far as them only showing us what they wanted to....thats silly.  If that was true they wouldnt have been playing it online.  Im sure the internet going down at the end of the video wasnt planned lol.

And even though it was the internet and not the game...lets just say they are lieing about that for the sake of arguement.  What game still in beta doesnt have some crashes?  Hell WAR still has CTD issues and its a few months after release!!!

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11/04/08 6:59:32 AM
 
Samuraisword writes:

I am taking a two month vacation from work mid December to mid February just to play Darkfall non stop.

I already feel the excitement of early EQ days.

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11/04/08 7:12:09 AM
 
Zayne3145 writes:
Originally posted by Samuraisword

I am taking a two month vacation from work mid December to mid February just to play Darkfall non stop.

 

Oh boy are you going to be pissed if they push back the release date to March.

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11/04/08 7:13:26 AM
 
Fargin writes:
Originally posted by theanimedude

So, I just watched the video that was previously linked... and here's what I see:

The UI -- The interface rivals that of Anarchy Online... that's right, an age old, ancient MMO. That is EXACTLY what this interface looks like. There's no style, no graphics, just plain blue lines, text, and black, hooray?

The Animation -- The characters walk like they have sticks up their arses, and look at that mount animation... the mount is bobbing like a freaking pendulum, congrats on the least life-like animations ever boys, congrats.

Walking -- Yes... walking. Seriously. I have never seen anyone walk that slow. What, are we going to attack each other at a snails pace, and see who gets bored first?

Graphics -- The graphics look good. Not great, but good. Everything looks a little too plastic for me, but still, it's not that bad.

All in all though, ready for release? You've got to be kidding me. PS, at the end of the video THE GAME CRASHES!!! Are you kidding me? HA.

If you're looking forward to this game, cool... but honestly, if not even the devs can make it look fun, who can?

EDIT: Here's the video that was previously linked, if anyone wants to see what i'm talking about.

 

First of all, they lost connection to the greek internet, the game didn't crash. way to pay attention!

And your only bad points for this game are the graphics and animations? This must be the best game ever because evrything else is perfect. Seriously, if you want shiny graphics go play AoC.

It's unbelievable how retarded the MMORPG.com community is, learn to read up on something before you open your hole.

You guys are a bunch of stupid kids who want to play free korean MMOs with shiny graphics and spit on anything that isn't exactly that. If you are too blind to see what Darkfall could be then that is really a shame...

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11/04/08 7:16:24 AM
 
openedge1 writes:
Originally posted by flakmonky

 A paltry one million subs? What are you smoking? One million subs is a huge number compared to most MMOs out there. If you would compare it to WoW then I would suggest that look up what an outlier is. WoW is not indicative of the average MMO. In fact, it's subscriber base is so incogruous with that of most MMOs that it is quite likely in that catagory where it's number is thrown out when determining the average (outlier).


 

Yet, console games can sell through a million, 5 million, etc...Yes, single player games..but MMO's are making headway.

WoW has proven this is not a niche market. WAR sold 1.2 million boxes according to their charts, AoC 800k boxes (note, I am not saying SUBS...thanks)...YET

They cannot retain that number....why?

Quality is key.

I will agree that someone said Darkfall has been in production so long that maybe it WILL be good. But, so far, they have so much they wish the game to do, and over promising seems to be the norm for MOST games.

Like I said, when I see an MMO keep a million, then I will believe it is worth a crap.

Darkfall will not be that game.

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11/04/08 7:50:32 AM
 
SXRchosen1 writes:

A good MMO is one with the highest population...?

thats a load of bull

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11/04/08 7:58:47 AM
 
Krayzjoel writes:

Ill believe this game releases when it actually releases. Nuff said!

 

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11/04/08 8:17:51 AM
 
downtoearth writes:
Originally posted by Krayzjoel

Ill believe this game releases when it actually releases. Nuff said!

 


 

fair enough heh

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11/04/08 8:48:09 AM
 
originalegg writes:
Originally posted by Samuraisword

I am taking a two month vacation from work mid December to mid February just to play Darkfall non stop.

I already feel the excitement of early EQ days.


 

Nice sig

But yea...maybe you know something we dont...thats a hell of a comittment to a december launch.

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11/04/08 9:06:04 AM
 
openedge1 writes:
Originally posted by SXRchosen1

A good MMO is one with the highest population...?

thats a load of bull

No, an MMO that wont shut it's doors (Hellgate, Auto Assault), or have population issues (AoC, LOTRO, Vanguard, TR) will have a million players or more.

It at least will tell me that the game must be worth playing if so many others play it.

11 million have not been wrong so far.

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11/04/08 9:24:55 AM
 
Theocritus writes:
Originally posted by Fargin

They have been testing this game with paid betatesters for years. So they only have to do stress testing and give people a chance to test the game for free so they can say if they like it or not.

So everything shows that they are pretty much ready for a launch in December.


 

     I dont know why but everything about this game feels shaky to me.........The only way I woul ever even give this game a look is if they have a open beta for the public....If they are going to pull the "oh join such and such website for $$ and you can play our beta" then I have no interest.........I cant quite put my finger on it but I have a bad feeling about this game.

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11/04/08 9:34:35 AM
 
Fargin writes:
Originally posted by Theocritus
Originally posted by Fargin

They have been testing this game with paid betatesters for years. So they only have to do stress testing and give people a chance to test the game for free so they can say if they like it or not.

So everything shows that they are pretty much ready for a launch in December.


 

     I dont know why but everything about this game feels shaky to me.........The only way I woul ever even give this game a look is if they have a open beta for the public....If they are going to pull the "oh join such and such website for $$ and you can play our beta" then I have no interest.........I cant quite put my finger on it but I have a bad feeling about this game.

 

They promised everyone would get a chance to play the game for free before they had to buy it.

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11/04/08 9:38:16 AM
 
Fargin writes:
Originally posted by openedge1
Originally posted by SXRchosen1

A good MMO is one with the highest population...?

thats a load of bull

No, an MMO that wont shut it's doors (Hellgate, Auto Assault), or have population issues (AoC, LOTRO, Vanguard, TR) will have a million players or more.

It at least will tell me that the game must be worth playing if so many others play it.

11 million have not been wrong so far.

 

LotrO doesn't have population issues... Just because an MMO has less than 1 mill subs doesn't mean it has issues. You are a stupid sheep that can only like something when others like it.

Do you really want to play the same game forever? do you want everyone to keep copying EQ?

Why can't you give MMOs that actually try to be innovative a chance?

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11/04/08 9:40:16 AM
 
openedge1 writes:
Originally posted by Fargin
Originally posted by openedge1
Originally posted by SXRchosen1

A good MMO is one with the highest population...?

thats a load of bull

No, an MMO that wont shut it's doors (Hellgate, Auto Assault), or have population issues (AoC, LOTRO, Vanguard, TR) will have a million players or more.

It at least will tell me that the game must be worth playing if so many others play it.

11 million have not been wrong so far.

 

LotrO doesn't have population issues... Just because an MMO has less than 1 mill subs doesn't mean it has issues. You are a stupid sheep that can only like something when others like it.

Do you really want to play the same game forever? do you want everyone to keep copying EQ?

Why can't you give MMOs that actually try to be innovative a chance?

Yet, I do NOT want the same thing. That is my issue. Darkfall "talks" innovation, but so far I have not SEEN anything to say this will be as it is.

LOTRO is a sheep game, WAR is a sheep game. If Darkfall even tries to be somewhat different and works out of the box...cool.

But, I have seen nothing to prove to me it will be what everyone says it is.

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11/04/08 10:11:34 AM
 
Fargin writes:
Originally posted by openedge1
Originally posted by Fargin
Originally posted by openedge1
Originally posted by SXRchosen1

A good MMO is one with the highest population...?

thats a load of bull

No, an MMO that wont shut it's doors (Hellgate, Auto Assault), or have population issues (AoC, LOTRO, Vanguard, TR) will have a million players or more.

It at least will tell me that the game must be worth playing if so many others play it.

11 million have not been wrong so far.

 

LotrO doesn't have population issues... Just because an MMO has less than 1 mill subs doesn't mean it has issues. You are a stupid sheep that can only like something when others like it.

Do you really want to play the same game forever? do you want everyone to keep copying EQ?

Why can't you give MMOs that actually try to be innovative a chance?

Yet, I do NOT want the same thing. That is my issue. Darkfall "talks" innovation, but so far I have not SEEN anything to say this will be as it is.

LOTRO is a sheep game, WAR is a sheep game. If Darkfall even tries to be somewhat different and works out of the box...cool.

But, I have seen nothing to prove to me it will be what everyone says it is.

 

Well maybe you should stop bashing a game before it even had a chance?

It's people like you that prevent great ideas from becoming great games. You stomp innovation into the ground whenever you can, slowing down the evolution of the gaming industry.

 

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11/04/08 10:37:54 AM
 
openedge1 writes:
Originally posted by Fargin
Originally posted by openedge1
Originally posted by Fargin
Originally posted by openedge1
Originally posted by SXRchosen1

A good MMO is one with the highest population...?

thats a load of bull

No, an MMO that wont shut it's doors (Hellgate, Auto Assault), or have population issues (AoC, LOTRO, Vanguard, TR) will have a million players or more.

It at least will tell me that the game must be worth playing if so many others play it.

11 million have not been wrong so far.

 

LotrO doesn't have population issues... Just because an MMO has less than 1 mill subs doesn't mean it has issues. You are a stupid sheep that can only like something when others like it.

Do you really want to play the same game forever? do you want everyone to keep copying EQ?

Why can't you give MMOs that actually try to be innovative a chance?

Yet, I do NOT want the same thing. That is my issue. Darkfall "talks" innovation, but so far I have not SEEN anything to say this will be as it is.

LOTRO is a sheep game, WAR is a sheep game. If Darkfall even tries to be somewhat different and works out of the box...cool.

But, I have seen nothing to prove to me it will be what everyone says it is.

 

Well maybe you should stop bashing a game before it even had a chance?

It's people like you that prevent great ideas from becoming great games. You stomp innovation into the ground whenever you can, slowing down the evolution of the gaming industry.

 

  I take full responsibility then. Because I am sick of the crud that is out there, I am fully responsible for ruining it for you.

I feel powerful.

I have one word for you...

Hype

Proof will be better. And until I REALLY see it, I can be wary thanks to the crap that HAS been released for the last 2-3 years.

But, hey if it is good, bring it on, and I will eat my words.

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11/04/08 10:43:53 AM
 
banthis writes:
Originally posted by Roosevelt
Originally posted by banthis

..maybe I missed something but didn't they only officially start closed beta testing like a month or two ago?? If they're using this short a period of test time I smell foul.


 

Sorry If I am about to come off as rude but how in the blue Skys of Arcadia is there something foul about this? Heres a simple breakdown of the possible outcomes of DarkFall as of right now.

  1. Open beta Begins
  • You download the client (if not your adventure ends here)

      2.    You Play the game (for free)

  • You like the game and buy it a month later and reach a state of nirvana similar to that of a drug induced comma.
  • You dislike the game and rant on the forums about how it did not live up to the giant steaming hype train that just rolled out of town.

 


 

I dont care if the game has been in production for 10 damn years that doesn't mean you have closed beta for 3 months then suddenly go "Ok lets release get ready for Open Beta! Yippie!"   I'm not saying darkfall is going to suck just that the situation is fishy considering its coming from a small unheard of developer with no background in MMOs.   The last time a PC game took an obsescene amount of time to release was hmm Diakatana an FPS game it took that game what nearly 8 years to release and it was the most horrible piece of crap ever.  Every copy the store I worked for at the time was returned.  

Hopefully this won't be the case with Darkfall but it sounds damn fishy to have such a short closed beta.  Most MMOs have a lengthy closed beta involving the actual game community but i hear so little in the way of anything from testers I mean honestly is there anyone here that is a closed beta tester for Darkfall and not some paid monkey??

They can have open beta all they want...I honestly have no wish to revisit the hellish unlawful past of MMOs been there done that.  I really hope the game does decent and gives those looking for an MMO that visits the past with newer graphics has a good time because I'll be honest I think if I hear another one of them whine because X game doesn't cater to them I might go postal.

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11/04/08 12:02:24 PM
 
Suraknar writes:

According to Aventurine the Closed beta has been going on for more than a year using "professional" (payed) beta testers.

The Closed beta phase 2, inviting people from the public is the one that has been on for a couple of months.

In either case, looking in to our Crystal ball of Ignorance and spitting out equally ignorant interpretations and hypothesis of this being fishy or not, really means squat, and has very little value.

The Game is going to have an Open Beta, and I reserve judgment till I can  tangibly see and experience it when the opportunity is given, till then, I am waiting for it with anticipation.

It has been really 11 years, since a game like Ultima Online has launched, and with comparable premise, for me it has been 6 years waiting for this to happen (played Ultima for its first 5).

My only concern which I also reserve judgment for the Open beta is its approach to Combat, I am no stranger to FPS combat, but I know allot of people who are just used to an MMORPG style combat system and may not relate to Darkfall's approach, these however are old farts like myself, today's younger generations of MMORPGers may actually imbrace a Fast Paced FPS style MMORPG.

We shall see what we shall see when we get the opportunity to do so, till then any Hypotheticall Success or Doom spelling is empty words and wasted effort.

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11/04/08 12:30:02 PM
 
bluefooted writes:

 Some reason, i just can't shake the feeling this is like... oh wahts that game that failed. crap (goes to look it up)

 

Vangaurd!

 

yeah, the game promised so much, you can do this and that and this and that, but ened up looking bad just to run it. I saw the gameplay video recently and the game looked so much like EQ2 or Vangaurd for graphics. I know they said it was on low settings, but it makes me wonder why they would produce a game to excite people at low graphics. 

 

Based on the videos they have produced, and what i have read, i expect this to fail. I could be wrong, and would love nothing more than to be proven wrong, but i go with the yatzee approach (if you know that game reviewer). Expect nothing different that what we have gotten the last 10 years and you wont be disapointed, but if a game actually does well then you will be all the happerier. But based on trends, and looking at the game, i dont see it working.

 

Also, did anyone else notice that the combat looked extremely simple in their gameplay preview? you would think with their "professional" beta testers they could muster at least a half decent pvp video.

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11/04/08 1:33:01 PM
 
RedwoodSap writes:

I like the fact they haven't opened up testing to the mindless masses in order to save a couple dollars.

Paying a smaller group of testers in order to retain professionalism and actually produce results is a refreshing concept.

The masses who beta test for free only do so for self serving reasons and to gain a knowledge advantage.

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11/04/08 1:36:47 PM
 
Samuraisword writes:

Yeah I respect Darkfall developers more for not opening up their game for lots of people to test. People just use testing as a way to get an advantage over retail customers.

I think a permanent limited free trial is a good marketing tool to include with any MMOG at release though, as long as all chat and message abilities are restricted on those accounts.

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11/08/08 6:20:34 AM
 
Yunbei writes:

I seriously dont understand the expectations. Nothing I have seen or heard sounds interesting to me at all! The graphcis in 10 years behind, a game which promises SO much and still having no big money company behind sounds like a very shady thing and the concept of hardcore PVP where people destroy the cities other players have meticiously build... this is so full of things against every trend I hardly can think how this can be anything but the niche of a nice game.

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11/08/08 6:34:58 AM
 
Samuraisword writes:
Originally posted by Yunbei

I seriously dont understand the expectations. Nothing I have seen or heard sounds interesting to me at all! The graphcis in 10 years behind, a game which promises SO much and still having no big money company behind sounds like a very shady thing and the concept of hardcore PVP where people destroy the cities other players have meticiously build... this is so full of things against every trend I hardly can think how this can be anything but the niche of a nice game.


 

The majority of Darkfall fans don't deny it will be a niche game. We are simply saying it will be a great game for those who have been waiting for a non instanced sandbox game with good graphics and great realistic gameplay. EvE is a niche game and is very successful. I expect Darkfall to attract a similar size base.

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11/08/08 6:39:40 AM
 
Yunbei writes:
Originally posted by Samuraisword
Originally posted by Yunbei

I seriously dont understand the expectations. Nothing I have seen or heard sounds interesting to me at all! The graphcis in 10 years behind, a game which promises SO much and still having no big money company behind sounds like a very shady thing and the concept of hardcore PVP where people destroy the cities other players have meticiously build... this is so full of things against every trend I hardly can think how this can be anything but the niche of a nice game.


 

The majority of Darkfall fans don't deny it will be a niche game. We are simply saying it will be a great game for those who have been waiting for a non instanced sandbox game with good graphics and great realistic gameplay. EvE is a niche game and is very successful. I expect Darkfall to attract a similar size base.


 

Heh ok. I understand the desire for something other than the standard fare very well. Its not my piece of pie, but I wish you fun with it. ^^

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