There is a lot of heated debate on the forums on this topic, so I wanted to poll this community and see what they thought.

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If Aventurine were to wipe the game, people would simply macro back up to their previous skill levels like they did the first time. Those who put the most work into leveling would probably not even bother coming back to do it all again, so you would wind up in the same position.

Originally posted by Omali

If Aventurine were to wipe the game, people would simply macro back up to their previous skill levels like they did the first time. Those who put the most work into leveling would probably not even bother coming back to do it all again, so you would wind up in the same position.

I believe after the launch they are going to strictly enforce the TOS, and the character progression is going to be so different I don't believe they'll allow that power gap to exist as it did in Darkfall 1.0

If the power gap STILL exists and the macroers gain insane advantages, the game will surely die. I don't think they'll make that mistake twice.

the better question is...

will darkfall rise from the dead with this new expansion/relaunch.

Darkfall is a game made for massive fights.. we do have some at the moment but.. its more like the whole server shows up

You ask me whipe yes or not? ( my char is high end )

If this whipe will help darkfall to get more players i say yes

But knowing AV history in bringing updates and patching this whole darkfall game will prolly be dead

I hope they actually sell there project to a decent game company

don''t get more wrong tho.. darkfall is one of kind.. the combat is awesome..

I couldn't get any actual information out of that post, so as far as I'm concerned it's too premature to vote on whether there should be a wipe or not.

Originally posted by mrcalhou

I couldn't get any actual information out of that post, so as far as I'm concerned it's too premature to vote on whether there should be a wipe or not.

true..

Av actually don''t say anything in there blog..

Its all speculation

Originally posted by Omali

If Aventurine were to wipe the game, people would simply macro back up to their previous skill levels like they did the first time. Those who put the most work into leveling would probably not even bother coming back to do it all again, so you would wind up in the same position.

This

Adress cheating and it would make sense to wipe if cheating is not solved a wipe would make no difference at all same old same old again.

Originally posted by Snoepie

But knowing AV history in bringing updates and patching this whole darkfall game will prolly be dead

Haha So true.

I bet we get the "We have reduced the grind from 1/2 of infinity to 1/3 of infinity". I`ll never be back if they wipe my char without slashing the pvp grind to a few months. Ahh well, the game is already dead so AV got nothing to lose.

If they apply what they learned this first time around to 2.0, I will give it a second chance for sure. Its also nice to know that if you purchased the game already, there is no need to purchase it for its rebirth. 15 dollars (monthly fee) is well worth the gamble imo.

Originally posted by Nixish

If they apply what they learned this first time around to 2.0, I will give it a second chance for sure. Its also nice to know that if you purchased the game already, there is no need to purchase it for its rebirth. 15 dollars (monthly fee) is well worth the gamble imo.

learned what?

everytime they state anything either on there blog or spotlight thread

We adjusted the new models in high grafhics..? SO WHAT? LOL

Everyone is playing this game on low settings to get decent fps.. heck not one single normal home computer can run darkfall because of there crappy one core coding and everytime they patch there bringing new models. 

AV is TOTAL FAIL ---> sollution sell the whole project to a company with brains..

I would need a skill cap. I don't mind taking longer to get up to speed cause I don't play as often as some people. I totally enjoy my social life and you gotta have priorities. I don't mind being stomped a lot for a while, but for years? that's ridiculous. That is the current Darkfall for a casual gamer.

Love the game, but never saw any decent PvP in it. Even the 50, 100, 200 person raids I was in were so zerg and unbalanced. Sometimes I was on the winning side sometimes not, but it was all boring cause there was no chance for a different outcome.

Originally posted by astoria

I would need a skill cap. I don't mind taking longer to get up to speed cause I don't play as often as some people. I totally enjoy my social life and you gotta have priorities. I don't mind being stomped a lot for a while, but for years? that's ridiculous. That is the current Darkfall for a casual gamer.

Love the game, but never saw any decent PvP in it. Even the 50, 100, 200 person raids I was in were so zerg and unbalanced. Sometimes I was on the winning side sometimes not, but it was all boring cause there was no chance for a different outcome.

skill cap? = 100?

120 for base atributes..

there is acually a skill cap..

presurges are the problem

Originally posted by Snoepie

Originally posted by astoria

I would need a skill cap. I don't mind taking longer to get up to speed cause I don't play as often as some people. I totally enjoy my social life and you gotta have priorities. I don't mind being stomped a lot for a while, but for years? that's ridiculous. That is the current Darkfall for a casual gamer.

Love the game, but never saw any decent PvP in it. Even the 50, 100, 200 person raids I was in were so zerg and unbalanced. Sometimes I was on the winning side sometimes not, but it was all boring cause there was no chance for a different outcome.

skill cap? = 100?

120 for base atributes..

 

there is acually a skill cap..

 

presurges are the problem

 A reasonable skillcap...

For instance, you cant have a hundred in all weapon masteries, and all spell schools as it would exceed the "cap" on skill leveles allowed.

Under a skill cap, it would look more like "one weapon mastery at 100, a magic school at 100, and maybe a secondary mastery around 50".

Originally posted by Omali

If Aventurine were to wipe the game, people would simply macro back up to their previous skill levels like they did the first time. Those who put the most work into leveling would probably not even bother coming back to do it all again, so you would wind up in the same position.

Except it would take them a week while a normal player playing the game casually would take a month.  Actually, with a wipe, both would take a month as both players would need money and creatures yield better gains for skills.  So no, your wrong.

I would consider it if the wipe solved the power gap problem. Obviously, in the short term a wipe solves the power gap problem, but does it solve it in the long term? The answer to that question depends on whether or not you trust AV. Personally, I think they're in over their heads and don't really know what they're doing. As a result, the wipe will simply hurt the casual gamers, while the hardcore gamers and the macroers will be back on top within a few months.

So no, a wipe wouldn't draw me back into the game.

Nope.  Open a new server (just one for EU and US) and never allow transfers.  This time actually  enforce the TOS.

I voted no, because for me a server wipe isn't the key issue. 

If the goal is to increase DF's population, they are going to have to reduce the grind and probably introduce a skill cap, or use a combination of gear and prestige classes to create the same effect as a cap.  They would also have to change some of the game's mechanics that seem to add difficultly simply for the sake of difficultly.  If these changes are made, the veterans will lose their years of character building, wipe or no wipe.

the key issue, is that the players ahead now will catch up again, but AV has stated that they are working to make it so the impact of a hypothetical wipe would not be as drastic, therefor not as necessary because the time needed to catch up is greatly reduced. Tasos has explicitly stated this multiple times

wiping isnt enough, they need skill caps for the game and proper balance between melee/magery and archery. They also need to reduce the grind significantly

If they capped  skills at 130 on all excisting players of darkfall that would be enough.

Originally posted by Snoepie

Originally posted by Nixish

If they apply what they learned this first time around to 2.0, I will give it a second chance for sure. Its also nice to know that if you purchased the game already, there is no need to purchase it for its rebirth. 15 dollars (monthly fee) is well worth the gamble imo.

learned what?

 

everytime they state anything either on there blog or spotlight thread

 

We adjusted the new models in high grafhics..? SO WHAT? LOL

 

Everyone is playing this game on low settings to get decent fps.. heck not one single normal home computer can run darkfall because of there crappy one core coding and everytime they patch there bringing new models. 

AV is TOTAL FAIL ---> sollution sell the whole project to a company with brains..

 

 

I run it on all max accept not shadows and my game looks awesome and even with alot people on screen i still get decent fps.

To what company then?

One that make game more easy introduce item shop or introduce safezones instance?.

AV doing great job they just need to adress cheaters and go back to original ideas back before 2007 we need hardcore not pussy game. Get rid of US server made one super EU server and game florish again.