End User License Agreements: Why the darkfail fanboys who are pissed cannot be angry

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cesog Novice Member Joined: 12/26/08 Posts: 63 Cesog fillireb, Bloodfin RIP SWG	7/02/09 7:39:49 AM#1 Report this post This post has already been reported In the EULA it allows the owners to change whatever the hell they want. You agree to it upon playing. That is all. Isfan: Remember kids: Stay in school, don't do drugs, eat your green vegetables, and trolls taste best muted.
JoeTan Novice Member Joined: 8/28/04 Posts: 51	7/02/09 7:41:11 AM#2 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) woho posting in a soon to be locked thread. good point tho ;)
Muppetier Novice Member Joined: 6/05/09 Posts: 3	7/02/09 7:45:50 AM#3 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by cesog That is all. Wasn't much , was it.
Saevel Novice Member Joined: 9/15/04 Posts: 56	7/02/09 7:47:39 AM#4 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) I'm sure you have opened many eyes here today with your insight...
Mattyb710 Advanced Member Joined: 3/27/08 Posts: 95	7/02/09 7:51:09 AM#5 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Too bad consumers still have rights, no matter what that jumble of legal text says before you start playing. But I do agree with your main point. People who are getting upset with Aventurine have no right to be, in regards to the new server/pricing.
Combspe Novice Member Joined: 10/03/06 Posts: 10	7/02/09 7:57:40 AM#6 Report this post This post has already been reported k thx buh biah
Otiro Novice Member Joined: 5/03/09 Posts: 153 Life is the true sandbox. So just enjoy the games	7/02/09 11:14:19 AM#7 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by cesog In the EULA it allows the owners to change whatever the hell they want. You agree to it upon playing. That is all. Was the same for SWG. look how that ended up. Just saying.
Wharg0ul Novice Member Joined: 11/21/03 Posts: 2278 Clench all you want, it's still going in.	7/02/09 11:18:19 AM#8 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) hey OP, how the fuck do you justify calling people who are pissed at AV "fanboys"? Do you even know what it means??? You might claim people don't have a "right" to be pissed, but it doesn't matter. We still have the "right" to refuse to give another fucking red cent to AV. Considering how hurting they are for $$, I think that will get the message across. ANd I'll laugh my ass off when that shitbomb closes down.
Kyleran Elite Member Joined: 9/13/06 Posts: 8870 "In EVE, no one gives a damn about a fair fight." - chafin	7/02/09 11:23:13 AM#9 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) No, the end user license agreements might be a good reason why people will never win a lawsuit against AV, but they certainly do have a right to be pissed off being asked to pay 2 times. And as others have mentioned, they have a right to stop paying AV anything going forward. RIP Darkfall, we hardly knew ya "This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon EVE Cult member since May 2007 Regarding EVE: "To be honest, I think God himself created this game." - Shek Regarding new players in EVE: "Think of yourself as a child released into a park full of pedophiles..." - Eleazaros "WoW is a game for tourists, not purists." – Ilvadyr
SEANMCAD Apprentice Member Joined: 3/22/09 Posts: 531	7/02/09 11:36:52 AM#10 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Kyleran No, the end user license agreements might be a good reason why people will never win a lawsuit against AV, but they certainly do have a right to be pissed off being asked to pay 2 times. And as others have mentioned, they have a right to stop paying AV anything going forward. RIP Darkfall, we hardly knew ya Laugh.. With the total tonnage of crappy games in this industry piling up so high one cant even find one game worth playing if you are willing to quit a game you like because you have to pay twice more power to you!
shukes33 Apprentice Member Joined: 6/27/07 Posts: 1041	7/02/09 11:41:01 AM#11 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) the point most are forgetting is that you simply DONT have to buy the game twice. The only reason you need to is if you just can't wait for 3 months on the EU server. and if you have been playing on the EU server up untill now, then i dont get it...why the sudden need to change? just wait the 3 months lol! Or do we have to buy it twice and i am missing something? i can't find it anywhere in the forums?
SEANMCAD Apprentice Member Joined: 3/22/09 Posts: 531	7/02/09 11:51:14 AM#12 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by shukes33 the point most are forgetting is that you simply DONT have to buy the game twice. The only reason you need to is if you just can't wait for 3 months on the EU server. and if you have been playing on the EU server up untill now, then i dont get it...why the sudden need to change? just wait the 3 months lol! Or do we have to buy it twice and i am missing something? i can't find it anywhere in the forums? well the deal is this. many people (myself included if I was moving to NA) want to re-roll and take advantage of the land grab as soon as possible. They also want to ge in new at the start with other players building their skills liget with a server that has a few more "cheat corrections". So yeah, from my view point if I had plans on NA I would want to start as soon as possible and I would have to spend the extra money. Thing is, although I do not consider myself wealthy, an extra $50 given the other options for that $50 is not all that bad.
Brif Advanced Member Joined: 1/07/09 Posts: 313	7/02/09 11:53:35 AM#13 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by shukes33 the point most are forgetting is that you simply DONT have to buy the game twice. The only reason you need to is if you just can't wait for 3 months on the EU server. and if you have been playing on the EU server up untill now, then i dont get it...why the sudden need to change? just wait the 3 months lol! Or do we have to buy it twice and i am missing something? i can't find it anywhere in the forums? Won't there be a $50 dollar fee to switch servers in 3 months anyway? "When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all." - God
krieblood Hard Core Member Joined: 5/10/07 Posts: 236 Vindicore	7/02/09 11:59:52 AM#14 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Brif Originally posted by shukes33 the point most are forgetting is that you simply DONT have to buy the game twice. The only reason you need to is if you just can't wait for 3 months on the EU server. and if you have been playing on the EU server up untill now, then i dont get it...why the sudden need to change? just wait the 3 months lol! Or do we have to buy it twice and i am missing something? i can't find it anywhere in the forums? Won't there be a $50 dollar fee to switch servers in 3 months anyway? LoL yeah. Mortal Online/EarthRise/Project V13 TheVindicators.com
Kentho Apprentice Member Joined: 9/06/08 Posts: 46	7/02/09 6:00:04 PM#15 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by shukes33 the point most are forgetting is that you simply DONT have to buy the game twice. The only reason you need to is if you just can't wait for 3 months on the EU server. and if you have been playing on the EU server up untill now, then i dont get it...why the sudden need to change? just wait the 3 months lol! Or do we have to buy it twice and i am missing something? i can't find it anywhere in the forums? You are correct for the most part about waiting the 3 months to transfer. How ever I am pretty confident in saying transfers will cost $25.00 US or more. You transfer with no money and no posessions. Plus there are other restrictions. What they may be no one knows yet, thanks to Aventurines lack of informing its player base. Now these restrictions could range from a lose of skills to only certain players may transfer based on time in game. for example: All players transfering will have thier skills reduced by 50%. or If you subscribed after april 1st, 2009 you cannot transfer. Now I'm not saying that either of these will happen. Just that they could happen. Again Cause Tasos stated transfers would have other restrictions besides lost of gear and money. Now with that said I would think that some of the players that would normally just wait for a transfer may look at it as not such a good deal. Yeah they save themselves $25.00 by transfering. But could these restrictions be more hamfull to those that want to wait? Either way until we get more information Neither option of buying the new client or transfers looks good.
Fariic Elite Member Joined: 7/29/04 Posts: 1537	7/02/09 6:52:43 PM#16 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Read the part about the limitted lisence agreement. Then find the part in the EULA that says that lisence agreement is restricted by region. I'm just saying....
User Deleted	7/02/09 7:00:52 PM#17 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by SEANMCAD Originally posted by Kyleran No, the end user license agreements might be a good reason why people will never win a lawsuit against AV, but they certainly do have a right to be pissed off being asked to pay 2 times. And as others have mentioned, they have a right to stop paying AV anything going forward. RIP Darkfall, we hardly knew ya Laugh.. With the total tonnage of crappy games in this industry piling up so high one cant even find one game worth playing if you are willing to quit a game you like because you have to pay twice more power to you! I'm in agreement here with SEANMCAD. AV knows that it has some loyal fans, and charging them twice makes financial sense for the company. AV would be best served by adding layers of cost to everything in this game, their only real chance at survival will come from their willing fans paying a little extra here and their to keep the game afloat. Actually, if AV just laid their cards on the table and asked the fans to make additional donations to keep the game afloat, I bet they'd rake in the bucks. Wouldn't hurt to try!
Wharg0ul Novice Member Joined: 11/21/03 Posts: 2278 Clench all you want, it's still going in.	7/02/09 7:02:53 PM#18 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) yeah, 'cause games like MO, Fallen Earth, and Aion aren't looking REAL good to those in NA who got fucked, right??
Aguitha Advanced Member Joined: 2/10/04 Posts: 1478	7/02/09 7:04:11 PM#19 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by cesog In the EULA it allows the owners to change whatever the hell they want. You agree to it upon playing. sux2beu That is all. Yeah but against a judge a stipulation like this could be interpreted as abusive. You cannot just sell a product and put stipulation like after you bought it, you have the right to shut up, this is abusive.
Kyleran Elite Member Joined: 9/13/06 Posts: 8870 "In EVE, no one gives a damn about a fair fight." - chafin	7/02/09 7:11:35 PM#20 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Hammertime1 Originally posted by SEANMCAD Originally posted by Kyleran No, the end user license agreements might be a good reason why people will never win a lawsuit against AV, but they certainly do have a right to be pissed off being asked to pay 2 times. And as others have mentioned, they have a right to stop paying AV anything going forward. RIP Darkfall, we hardly knew ya Laugh.. With the total tonnage of crappy games in this industry piling up so high one cant even find one game worth playing if you are willing to quit a game you like because you have to pay twice more power to you! I'm in agreement here with SEANMCAD. AV knows that it has some loyal fans, and charging them twice makes financial sense for the company. AV would be best served by adding layers of cost to everything in this game, their only real chance at survival will come from their willing fans paying a little extra here and their to keep the game afloat. Actually, if AV just laid their cards on the table and asked the fans to make additional donations to keep the game afloat, I bet they'd rake in the bucks. Wouldn't hurt to try! I see what your saying here, DF should add a Cash Shop. Excellent idea. "This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon EVE Cult member since May 2007 Regarding EVE: "To be honest, I think God himself created this game." - Shek Regarding new players in EVE: "Think of yourself as a child released into a park full of pedophiles..." - Eleazaros "WoW is a game for tourists, not purists." – Ilvadyr
Rohn Elite Member Joined: 7/02/08 Posts: 644	7/02/09 7:36:03 PM#21 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by SEANMCAD Originally posted by Kyleran No, the end user license agreements might be a good reason why people will never win a lawsuit against AV, but they certainly do have a right to be pissed off being asked to pay 2 times. And as others have mentioned, they have a right to stop paying AV anything going forward. RIP Darkfall, we hardly knew ya Laugh.. With the total tonnage of crappy games in this industry piling up so high one cant even find one game worth playing if you are willing to quit a game you like because you have to pay twice more power to you! Yeah, that's an issue for people with a backbone and a modicum of self-respect. You needn't worry, princess. A lot of people actually don't like the game in its current state - paying twice for it just seals the deal on them leaving for good.
Alienovrlord Advanced Member Joined: 2/28/07 Posts: 1401	7/02/09 8:55:26 PM#22 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Rohn Originally posted by SEANMCAD Laugh.. With the total tonnage of crappy games in this industry piling up so high one cant even find one game worth playing if you are willing to quit a game you like because you have to pay twice more power to you! Yeah, that's an issue for people with a backbone and a modicum of self-respect. You needn't worry, princess. Neither of those traits are serious problems for those who put up (and even defend) the arrogant attitudes Aventurine has displayed toward the community from before release. I think masochism is a pre-requisite for the game.
Wharg0ul Novice Member Joined: 11/21/03 Posts: 2278 Clench all you want, it's still going in.	7/02/09 9:00:52 PM#23 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Alienovrlord Originally posted by Rohn Originally posted by SEANMCAD Laugh.. With the total tonnage of crappy games in this industry piling up so high one cant even find one game worth playing if you are willing to quit a game you like because you have to pay twice more power to you! Yeah, that's an issue for people with a backbone and a modicum of self-respect. You needn't worry, princess. Neither of those traits are serious problems for those who put up (and even defend) the arrogant attitudes Aventurine has displayed toward the community from before release. I think masochism is a pre-requisite for the game. I think it's blind fanboi-ism nowadays. Even us masochists have moved on to other games.
shukes33 Apprentice Member Joined: 6/27/07 Posts: 1041	7/03/09 3:42:25 AM#24 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Brif Originally posted by shukes33 the point most are forgetting is that you simply DONT have to buy the game twice. The only reason you need to is if you just can't wait for 3 months on the EU server. and if you have been playing on the EU server up untill now, then i dont get it...why the sudden need to change? just wait the 3 months lol! Or do we have to buy it twice and i am missing something? i can't find it anywhere in the forums? Won't there be a $50 dollar fee to switch servers in 3 months anyway? no.
shukes33 Apprentice Member Joined: 6/27/07 Posts: 1041	7/03/09 3:44:58 AM#25 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by SEANMCAD Originally posted by shukes33 the point most are forgetting is that you simply DONT have to buy the game twice. The only reason you need to is if you just can't wait for 3 months on the EU server. and if you have been playing on the EU server up untill now, then i dont get it...why the sudden need to change? just wait the 3 months lol! Or do we have to buy it twice and i am missing something? i can't find it anywhere in the forums? well the deal is this. many people (myself included if I was moving to NA) want to re-roll and take advantage of the land grab as soon as possible. They also want to ge in new at the start with other players building their skills liget with a server that has a few more "cheat corrections". So yeah, from my view point if I had plans on NA I would want to start as soon as possible and I would have to spend the extra money. Thing is, although I do not consider myself wealthy, an extra $50 given the other options for that $50 is not all that bad. Good answer friend. you actually made me see it the other way. now i have sympathy for those who want a fresh start from scratch. but still think the ones who want a transfer from day one are just power hungry ego trips who want to take advantage of newcomers newbieness. But for those that want a fresh start i see your point and sorry for offending any of you.