Seemed to be a rather unbiased review to me. There were positive aspects to it but there were negative as well.

The camera view seemed pretty logical to me. It is alot like the camera worked when EQ first came out. You were in first person and you actually had to tilt up or down to see things above or below you. I always hated playing large characters in EQ because of that so it looks like it will be the same for me in Darkfall. Looks like Dwarf again.
I actually like that you cant scroll the camera back way behing you. That kind of defeats the purpose of a PVP game where someone can gank you at any time (not that i am a fan of ganking, i hate it).

True all we saw was goblins again. I too would like to see something a bit different. Are they still only allowing the BETA testers to get so high before they wipe them? This could explain the lack of other mobs a little. Perhaps they just dont have them all turned on, perhaps they figure that if you can fight a goblin and it works fighting a gnoll or lion or whatever will work pretty much the same.

Graphics still leave a bit to be desired but thats ok. Better to have a good game with fair graphics then a poor to fair game with great graphics.

Hopefully something more substantial will be coming out soon. December release is starting to look a bit unlikely but that is fine too. They can take as long as they want as long as the game is good when it does release. At least it looks like someone is actually playing a game called Darkfall so thats a good sign.
Yes, yes, i know, there were people playing Gods and Heroes too.

 I really wish people would quit with the name calling. This isn't highschool and we should be able to conduct ourselves like mature people. Just because someone has a different opinon doesn't make them a troll or a fanboy. And you don't have to research a game to talk about it. Both sides need to stick to the discussion at hand and quit with this 9th grade bullshit namecalling. Now on the subject of the review, it was ok. Thos screenshots look pretty bad. Most likely due to the conversion. I really can't wait til this game comes out so people can quit thinking so highly about this game. It's not the second coming of christ and it sure isn't going to give you instant satisfaction. A lot of you are going to find out that DF is just another MMO and don't get mad when it happens. But DF will be released eventually, altho it does seem like another delay is coming. 

Originally posted by mackdawg19

 I really wish people would quit with the name calling. This isn't highschool and we should be able to conduct ourselves like mature people. Just because someone has a different opinon doesn't make them a troll or a fanboy. And you don't have to research a game to talk about it. Both sides need to stick to the discussion at hand and quit with this 9th grade bullshit namecalling. Now on the subject of the review, it was ok. Thos screenshots look pretty bad. Most likely due to the conversion. I really can't wait til this game comes out so people can quit thinking so highly about this game. It's not the second coming of christ and it sure isn't going to give you instant satisfaction. A lot of you are going to find out that DF is just another MMO and don't get mad when it happens. But DF will be released eventually, altho it does seem like another delay is coming. 

You do need to read up about the game if you're going to argue someone about a feature you know nothing about.

It's like little kids. Their parents tell them to eat their food, but the kid doesn't want to, because "It tastes bad!!" Yet, the kid haven't even tasted the food yet. The same scenario as zaxtor99 was giving us at the early parts of this thread.

"That's great. They have a fixed camera where you can't see shit and don't want to make it adjustable at all, so somehow this is now a good thing."

"Ohhh, so Darkfall is an FPS now huh? {sarcastic thumbs up}"

He haven't read up about the game at all, one of the MAIN and most "HYPED" feature is the FPS gameplay.

And one of the reasons why you can't have freelook is the stealth machanics. I guess he didn't know either that Darkfall doesn't have magical stealth button, you have to sneak and use environment etc. to hide and sneak up to your target. Now how's this gooing to work if we can spin our camera's like a madman, giving no opportinity to someone to sneak up on us.

It seems like Ill finally want to play a stealthy type in this game, although I always play casters.

Originally posted by Sappher

Originally posted by mackdawg19

 I really wish people would quit with the name calling. This isn't highschool and we should be able to conduct ourselves like mature people. Just because someone has a different opinon doesn't make them a troll or a fanboy. And you don't have to research a game to talk about it. Both sides need to stick to the discussion at hand and quit with this 9th grade bullshit namecalling. Now on the subject of the review, it was ok. Thos screenshots look pretty bad. Most likely due to the conversion. I really can't wait til this game comes out so people can quit thinking so highly about this game. It's not the second coming of christ and it sure isn't going to give you instant satisfaction. A lot of you are going to find out that DF is just another MMO and don't get mad when it happens. But DF will be released eventually, altho it does seem like another delay is coming. 

 

You do need to read up about the game if you're going to argue someone about a feature you know nothing about.

It's like little kids. Their parents tell them to eat their food, but the kid doesn't want to, because "It tastes bad!!" Yet, the kid haven't even tasted the food yet. The same scenario as zaxtor99 was giving us at the early parts of this thread.

"That's great. They have a fixed camera where you can't see shit and don't want to make it adjustable at all, so somehow this is now a good thing."

"Ohhh, so Darkfall is an FPS now huh? {sarcastic thumbs up}"

He haven't read up about the game at all, one of the MAIN and most "HYPED" feature is the FPS gameplay.

And one of the reasons why you can't have freelook is the stealth machanics. I guess he didn't know either that Darkfall doesn't have magical stealth button, you have to sneak and use environment etc. to hide and sneak up to your target. Now how's this gooing to work if we can spin our camera's like a madman, giving no opportinity to someone to sneak up on us.

 

Sorry but your wrong. Ever watch CSPAN? If not, then don't worry about it. Just know that your wrong. 

Originally posted by mackdawg19

Originally posted by Sappher

Originally posted by mackdawg19

 I really wish people would quit with the name calling. This isn't highschool and we should be able to conduct ourselves like mature people. Just because someone has a different opinon doesn't make them a troll or a fanboy. And you don't have to research a game to talk about it. Both sides need to stick to the discussion at hand and quit with this 9th grade bullshit namecalling. Now on the subject of the review, it was ok. Thos screenshots look pretty bad. Most likely due to the conversion. I really can't wait til this game comes out so people can quit thinking so highly about this game. It's not the second coming of christ and it sure isn't going to give you instant satisfaction. A lot of you are going to find out that DF is just another MMO and don't get mad when it happens. But DF will be released eventually, altho it does seem like another delay is coming. 

 

You do need to read up about the game if you're going to argue someone about a feature you know nothing about.

It's like little kids. Their parents tell them to eat their food, but the kid doesn't want to, because "It tastes bad!!" Yet, the kid haven't even tasted the food yet. The same scenario as zaxtor99 was giving us at the early parts of this thread.

"That's great. They have a fixed camera where you can't see shit and don't want to make it adjustable at all, so somehow this is now a good thing."

"Ohhh, so Darkfall is an FPS now huh? {sarcastic thumbs up}"

He haven't read up about the game at all, one of the MAIN and most "HYPED" feature is the FPS gameplay.

And one of the reasons why you can't have freelook is the stealth machanics. I guess he didn't know either that Darkfall doesn't have magical stealth button, you have to sneak and use environment etc. to hide and sneak up to your target. Now how's this gooing to work if we can spin our camera's like a madman, giving no opportinity to someone to sneak up on us.

 

 

Sorry but your wrong. Ever watch CSPAN? If not, then don't worry about it. Just know that your wrong. 

 

No, you're wrong. Accept it.

Carebears wont like this abit. They all want the WoW stealth system instead.

Personally...i love it.  Full open PvP need different gameplay to work. People have screamed for years that it didnt work in other MMOs.

Originally posted by zaxtor99

Understood Rhinok, but my concerns about Darkfall are even greater seeing that Darkfall is trying to pull off even more now. To be a first person style of game, then the game engine needs to run VERY fast and smooth to provide for good game play, as in a first person shooter FPS. Could you imagine playing Halo 3 with slow character movement or extreme lag?

Okay, so they are trying to pull off a first person viewpoint where your move your mouse in the direction you are looking. I got that now. I never really studied all the promised features of Darkfall and how they plan to implement everything, but now I wonder about a million more little details, which is probably not answered yet.

See, this game certainly seems like it is trying to pull off way more then it can handle. It's trying to be a fast moving, skill based FPS style game that is also an mmo on a single server with 200 vs 200 player warefare as I've seen talked about several times on these forums already. It's trying to promise a million things and everyones favorite parts of a hundred thousand game style elements and put them all into this "sounds too good to be true" type of game.

But we can talk forever about what they are promising to be implemented in the game. What is actually going to happen when I install and play this game on my computer is where my real concerns are. My doctor can tell me that a pill I'm supposed to take tastes like moist, tender Chicken, mashed potatoes and gravy, and warm apple pie all in the same little pill. And his nurses that work with him, for him in his offices can tell me the same thing. But that don't mean I'm not gonna taste a chalky piece of crap pill when I put it in my mouth. (The nurses in his office being all the friends and people who put up reviews of this game from the offices or control of Aventurine)

- Zaxx

100 vs 100 is promised they only tested over 200 all together

zaxtor99:

rofl; you REALLY need to read up on the game you are bashing, you honestly didn't know the FPS-gamestyle of DFO? and you think you have ANY right to bash this game.. get real

WAAAHHHAAHAHHAHA... best one today!

Originally posted by nileq

zaxtor99:

rofl; you REALLY need to read up on the game you are bashing, you honestly didn't know the FPS-gamestyle of DFO? and you think you have ANY right to bash this game.. get real

 

WAAAHHHAAHAHHAHA... best one today!

He must have know!

Darkfall have been in development for years.....he cant have missed! But if he have ROFL.

this game has gotta be one of the biggest ovehyped jokes EVER..

i mean like EVER

Originally posted by OpiumKing

this game has gotta be one of the biggest ovehyped jokes EVER..

i mean like EVER

Almost. If anyone else wanted to make a sandbox MMO with naval and mounted combat, open PvP, full loot and city building, no levels, no xp and no floating neon name tags.......ALL DF fans would go threr in a hearthbeat : )

But we are stuck with DF.

There is no obvious reason to me why the camera in 3rd person mode should be locked? I can see that it has to be like that in 1st Person, but 3rd... that makes like no sense. By the way, FPS = First Person Shooter, so yeah, in 1st person one should have a FPS type control scheme. But not when you look at your toon from overhead. That's totally tiresome and will most definitely feel clunky and restrictive ( and no I haven't played it yet, but there is such a thing as common sense).

Since this is a computer game one must sacrifice realism over playability.

I'm so excited about this game and it's first person

So far I like what I see. This game is not for carebears. I applaud Aventurine for their game. I like the graphics too, it looks like going back to Elder Scrolls: Morrowind which I love. There is no such thing as turning invisible "sneaky" mode in broad light, this game is obviously not for kids. Also, for people that have experience in PvP combat in WoW and other games alike, forget it, this is not a theme park. If you played UO for example, you will notice how similar combat is. When this game is released you will see many people here complaining why they can not play like in WoW/WAR and all those easy carebear mode games.

Sounds really, really claustrophobic and frustrating as far as the character view goes. One thing that really bugs me is if I can't see the horizon. I always feel like I need to make my character look up, and if I can't if feels like you're stuck in a box, or you have blinders on.

Maybe it's better when you actually play than in the description here.

Do shooters lock the camera view? I was just playing Farcry and I could look anywhere I wanted to.

No freakin 3rd person camera view from multiple freakin angles ??

Welcome to DF, Immersion is back

Originally posted by daarco

Originally posted by OpiumKing

this game has gotta be one of the biggest ovehyped jokes EVER..

i mean like EVER

 

Almost. If anyone else wanted to make a sandbox MMO with naval and mounted combat, open PvP, full loot and city building, no levels, no xp and no floating neon name tags.......ALL DF fans would go threr in a hearthbeat : )

But we are stuck with DF.

Very true, very nicely put.

Originally posted by nileq
Originally posted by daarco
Originally posted by OpiumKing

this game has gotta be one of the biggest ovehyped jokes EVER..

i mean like EVER

Almost. If anyone else wanted to make a sandbox MMO with naval and mounted combat, open PvP, full loot and city building, no levels, no xp and no floating neon name tags.......ALL DF fans would go threr in a hearthbeat : )

But we are stuck with DF.

Very true, very nicely put.
 

Guess you guys have not heard about Mortal then huh??

and I still see lots of DF guys around.

Originally posted by Moretrinkets

So far I like what I see. This game is not for carebears. I applaud Aventurine for their game. I like the graphics too, it looks like going back to Elder Scrolls: Morrowind which I love. There is no such thing as turning invisible "sneaky" mode in broad light, this game is obviously not for kids. Also, for people that have experience in PvP combat in WoW and other games alike, forget it, this is not a theme park. If you played UO for example, you will notice how similar combat is. When this game is released you will see many people here complaining why they can not play like in WoW/WAR and all those easy carebear mode games.

The combat is nothing like uo dont ever say anything like that again.

There was more to UO than pvp.   

And about the kids remark I played UO as a kid knew alot of other kids and we did just fine back in those days.