Originally posted by NeroScuro

Children, children! It doesn't matter how many of DF's best/worst screenshots you compare to those of some other random game, you can't objectively measure art style, so stop trying.

 

You may as well all be arguing that DF is worse than WAR because DF's colour scheme is gold and WAR's is red, and gold is a stupid colour that isn't consistent. That's just dumb, it's entirely opinion. If you don't like DF's art style so much so that you think it will prohibit you from playing the game, well, that sucks for you, but fair enough. But try to argue that you think the game will fail because you personally don't like the style, and you're just trolling (or intensely stupid, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt).

so mature is ugly?

never knew that....

Originally posted by javac

Originally posted by Psiho246

I actually think DF shadows are ugly. They are way too sharp. Shadows should be soft.

Character models look cool. Character animation suck unfortunately.

Try looking at your own shadow in bright sunlight - it has hard edges. The softer the light, the softer the edges of the shadow.

 

Only certain animations need work, eg: dwarves walking down slopes, the majority of animations are quite good, especially mounts.

Javac, you're really playing the old "get the last word in" card a few too many times here. First, arguing graphics is silly, as everyone has their opinion and you can't win an argument based purely on opinions.

Second, you are still failing to grasp that other fellow's argument that there is a difference between graphics and artistic style.

Its real simple: WoW has great artistic style, poor graphics. Vanguard has great graphics, poor artistic style. At the end of the day its an opinion but overall people like style much more than graphics. Which makes sense, most people like art work that is aethestically pleasing, they don't care how long it took or how technically adequate it might be. You're obviously not most people, good for your individuality, but you're not going to convert non believers, as they know what pleases them as much as you know what pleases you.

Oh and for the record, DF is definitely on the poor style, medicore graphics side of the spectrum.

Originally posted by Cereo

Originally posted by javac

Originally posted by Psiho246

I actually think DF shadows are ugly. They are way too sharp. Shadows should be soft.

Character models look cool. Character animation suck unfortunately.

Try looking at your own shadow in bright sunlight - it has hard edges. The softer the light, the softer the edges of the shadow.

 

Only certain animations need work, eg: dwarves walking down slopes, the majority of animations are quite good, especially mounts.

 

Javac, you're really playing the old "get the last word in" card a few too many times here. First, arguing graphics is silly, as everyone has their opinion and you can't win an argument based purely on opinions.

Second, you are still failing to grasp that other fellow's argument that there is a difference between graphics and artistic style.

Its real simple: WoW has great artistic style, poor graphics. Vanguard has great graphics, poor artistic style. At the end of the day its an opinion but overall people like style much more than graphics. Which makes sense, most people like art work that is aethestically pleasing, they don't care how long it took or how technically adequate it might be. You're obviously not most people, good for your individuality, but you're not going to convert non believers, as they know what pleases them as much as you know what pleases you.

Oh and for the record, DF is definitely on the poor style, medicore graphics side of the spectrum.

QFT

Originally posted by Cereo

First, arguing graphics is silly, as everyone has their opinion and you can't win an argument based purely on opinions.

Oh and for the record, DF is definitely on the poor style, medicore graphics side of the spectrum.

Thanks for debunking your own argument. You can't say DF has poor style, or that WoW has good style, because style isn't quantifiable. It's entirely opinion.

Originally posted by SgtFrog

so mature is ugly?

never knew that....

Um... I'm confused. What, if anything, does that have to do with what I wrote? I don't even know what you're trying to say... did you just assume I was a DF fan but couldn't be bothered to read my post, but you decided to disagree with me anyway?

Originally posted by NeroScuro

Originally posted by Cereo

First, arguing graphics is silly, as everyone has their opinion and you can't win an argument based purely on opinions.

Oh and for the record, DF is definitely on the poor style, medicore graphics side of the spectrum.

 

Thanks for debunking your own argument. You can't say DF has poor style, or that WoW has good style, because style isn't quantifiable. It's entirely opinion.

 

 

Originally posted by SgtFrog

so mature is ugly?

never knew that....

 

Um... I'm confused. What, if anything, does that have to do with what I wrote? I don't even know what you're trying to say... did you just assume I was a DF fan but couldn't be bothered to read my post, but you decided to disagree with me anyway?

oh my. i read your post wrong.

now i just look like a crazy frog.

i thought you said the art style is mature...:)

Originally posted by Cereo

Second, you are still failing to grasp that other fellow's argument that there is a difference between graphics and artistic style.

No I understand what he's trying to say, i just don't agree, because you can't single out 1-2 screenshots/montages and declare that the art style sucks.

Originally posted by javac

Originally posted by Cereo

Second, you are still failing to grasp that other fellow's argument that there is a difference between graphics and artistic style.

 

No I understand what he's trying to say, i just don't agree, because you can't single out 1-2 screenshots/montages and declare that the art style sucks.

 

 

 

15 minuets of video and about 200 screen shots is more than enough to see how a games art style is.

Darkfalls graphics are a lot better than that cartoony  WAR stuff. And the gamepaly is going to be better too.

I couldn't believe how shallow WAR was

Originally posted by ghoul31

Darkfalls graphics are a lot better than that cartoony  WAR stuff. And the gamepaly is going to be better too.

I couldn't believe how shallow WAR was

 

yea it will be better as long as the game works decent : ) but i dont belive the devs will release a non working game they just dont seem like they would do that

Originally posted by ghoul31

Darkfalls graphics are a lot better than that cartoony  WAR stuff. And the gamepaly is going to be better too.

I couldn't believe how shallow WAR was

 

not to troll.

but this looks cartoony imo

Originally posted by SgtFrog

Originally posted by ghoul31

Darkfalls graphics are a lot better than that cartoony  WAR stuff. And the gamepaly is going to be better too.

I couldn't believe how shallow WAR was

 

 

not to troll.

but this looks cartoony imo

 

 

Thats not an in game screenshot. Thats just an artist rendering. You don't know the difference?

Originally posted by ghoul31

Originally posted by SgtFrog

Originally posted by ghoul31

Darkfalls graphics are a lot better than that cartoony  WAR stuff. And the gamepaly is going to be better too.

I couldn't believe how shallow WAR was

 

 

not to troll.

but this looks cartoony imo

 

 

 

Thats not an in game screenshot. Thats just an artist rendering. You don't know the difference?

 

yes i do. but it still looks cartoony to me :)