To all the posters that were offering evidence that the fanboi DF cult is wrongly informed I feel for you. Aragon is the worst of the kind, I swear he has a Word Document of all the quotes and he just copies and posts them in to try to look smart, when in actuality they are believing dev quotes like it is a word of god. In case you guys didn't know devs lie, they will do what ever it takes to put them in a good light. Look at SOE for proof of this.

Now, boy oh boy would I love to do a complete report on why everything darkfall is saying will be in their game is technologically impossible at this stage of hardware, I don't have the time for it. There's a thing in believing in a project and supporting it but it is to a point. You DF fanbois are completely blinded by the features that you are not even questioning if it's possible. You sit there and pray to your Tasos poster on your wall that was currently put up after removing your Brittney Spears poster.

Seriously the DF fanboi community is not a community at all it's a friggin cult. Keep it up Aragon I'm sure Tasos is proud of you, maybe one day he will call you his own son and then your life can be complete.

Originally posted by HashBrick

 Keep it up Aragon I'm sure Tasos is proud of you, maybe one day he will call you his own son and then your life can be complete.

Originally posted by HashBrick

 

Now, boy oh boy would I love to do a complete report on why everything darkfall is saying will be in their game is technologically impossible at this stage of hardware, I don't have the time for it.

Originally posted by Cry0manc3r

 

Originally posted by HashBrick

 

Now, boy oh boy would I love to do a complete report on why everything darkfall is saying will be in their game is technologically impossible at this stage of hardware, I don't have the time for it.

I like you how say it's impossible because of hardware even though most of the stuff they're talking about implementing is just lines of code.

 

 

Bren

I'm really hoping they didn't start over in 2003 because then they probably won't have all the features they promised.  However, it is pretty obvious they did restart, just look at the screenshots.  The very earliest look like a ps1 game.  Then you can see the alpha screenshots, the shiny and blurry ones, just like in the alpha video.  Then you have the current graphics which are clearly updated alpha graphics, but are clearly not the same as the original graphics.  So if they throw out their graphics, I would imagine they probably threw out their code as well.  With their new team they probably had much more knowlege to code it better anyway, so it was probably simpler just to restart, not to mention they needed a much better game engine then the original had.

Originally posted by Cry0manc3r

 

Originally posted by HashBrick

 

Now, boy oh boy would I love to do a complete report on why everything darkfall is saying will be in their game is technologically impossible at this stage of hardware, I don't have the time for it.

I like you how say it's impossible because of hardware even though most of the stuff they're talking about implementing is just lines of code.

 

 

They're coming out in droves, now.

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Originally posted by Cry0manc3r

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Originally posted by HashBrick

Now, boy oh boy would I love to do a complete report on why everything darkfall is saying will be in their game is technologically impossible at this stage of hardware, I don't have the time for it.

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I like you how say it's impossible because of hardware even though most of the stuff they're talking about implementing is just lines of code.

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Please for the love of god know the industry how things work before you post. Lines of code isn't the problem, it's how the code pushes on the hardware. So when I read in a DF Dev Journal that DF is going to be twice as big as the biggest MMO to date (DnL) and yet be seamless, theres a huge whole in that logic called reality. Mind you while having a real-time battle system and so called graphics to par with AoC....

Does someone not see the problem here? AoC had to be cut up in zones and instances to handle the hardware today, so what makes you think DF is going to be some miracle product that will be able to handle all that and more with "advanced AI", no one is going to be able to run it. DF is going to have to wait till hardware gets to par with what they are offering. Maybe this is why they keep pulling back and saying another year another year.

If it does release it is going to be sub par and not offer anything to amount of what they are saying. All you guys who are saying they going to pre-order, I really hope you do. The DF crew could really use your donations for their Caribbean cruse fund.

This game is the biggest hoax in the history of MMO's. It's probably some study at a university that has simply gone way beyond what they intended. And yeah, they're laughing still........

Originally posted by HashBrick

 

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Originally posted by Cry0manc3r

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Originally posted by HashBrick

Now, boy oh boy would I love to do a complete report on why everything darkfall is saying will be in their game is technologically impossible at this stage of hardware, I don't have the time for it.

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I like you how say it's impossible because of hardware even though most of the stuff they're talking about implementing is just lines of code.

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Please for the love of god know the industry how things work before you post. Lines of code isn't the problem, it's how the code pushes on the hardware. So when I read in a DF Dev Journal that DF is going to be twice as big as the biggest MMO to date (DnL) and yet be seamless, theres a huge whole in that logic called reality. Mind you while having a real-time battle system and so called graphics to par with AoC....

Does someone not see the problem here? AoC had to be cut up in zones and instances to handle the hardware today, so what makes you think DF is going to be some miracle product that will be able to handle all that and more with "advanced AI", no one is going to be able to run it. DF is going to have to wait till hardware gets to par with what they are offering. Maybe this is why they keep pulling back and saying another year another year.

If it does release it is going to be sub par and not offer anything to amount of what they are saying. All you guys who are saying they going to pre-order, I really hope you do. The DF crew could really use your donations for their Caribbean cruse fund.

I'm sorry but you are so wrong in so many ways I can't go into it all so I'll just pick out a few points. AoC was not cut up into zones it was designed to use zones from day one. Seamless worlds are still diced up into zones of sorts its just that the next area that your headed for is loaded on the fly so you don't have to see any load screens. AoC could have done this as well but for whatever reason they chose not to (My guess is that with a seamless world you can't have main world areas that are instanced like in AoC). Darkfall will not have even close to the system requirements of AoC so that will allow them to spend resources in other areas like real time combat. The size of a seamless world is only confined by disk space just like a zoned world. Just because you have a huge seamless world does not mean that every client has to have the whole damn thing loaded at any time.

The same goes for other players. The only player avatars that your client needs to know about are the ones you can see from where you are in the game world. Think about how many other players you've seen at one time in any MMO. Maybe 100 tops which is almost within the boundaries of AoC (48x48=96) and well within tech limits for a game like Darkfall as the graphical overhead will be about 2/3rds that of AoC(If that even). Thats another thing......No one, not even the most dedicated fanboy has stated that Darkfall will have graphics on par with AoC nor should they. By your logic WoW and Lineage II are impossible with todays technology and yet they exist.......care to explain why? Both have huge seamless worlds with a lot of other features going in the background at the same time......just like what Darkfall is proposing.

Like Ive stated before Darkfall isn't proposing ANYTHING that hasn't been done before in online gaming. The only difference is that they haven't all been incorporated into the same game before. The technology is there to do it so saying it isn't is just ignorant at best. Please for the love of god know the industry and how things work before you post.

Bren

WoW is not seamless.

WoW has Zones. They may be large, but they are there. Just to point that out. XD

Originally posted by singsofdeath

WoW is not seamless.

 

WoW has Zones. They may be large, but they are there. Just to point that out. XD

Yes but you don't "Zone" when moving between them. WoW has Zones and so does Lineage II, Perfect world, Dark and Light and all other seamless worlds they just hide the boundaries better then WoW did. Guess what? Darkfall will have zones as well just like all seamless worlds do. The main difference is the way the zones are loaded. Zoned games load the next zone all at once while you look at a "Loading....." screen. Seamless games load smaller chunks of the zone in the background so you never have to see the load screen.

Bren

Originally posted by Brenelael

 

Originally posted by singsofdeath

WoW is not seamless.

 

WoW has Zones. They may be large, but they are there. Just to point that out. XD

Yes but you don't "Zone" when moving between them. WoW has Zones and so does Lineage II, Perfect world, Dark and Light and all other seamless worlds they just hide the boundaries better then WoW did. Guess what? Darkfall will have zones as well just like all seamless worlds do. The main difference is the way the zones are loaded. Zoned games load the next zone all at once while you look at a "Loading....." screen. Seamless games load smaller chunks of the zone in the background so you never have to see the load screen.

 

 

Bren

And what is the screen I used to get when travelling between the two continents? Or into Outlands? Isn't that a loading screen and thus, a Zone?