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Catizone  7/24/08 8:06:26 AM

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I don't get why they need to release a video next month. Why couldn't they just have released the video this month?

Why is everything always so fucking complicated and drawn out with this thing when it doesn't need to be? 

I mean seriously.. Is it really that hard to have 2 people sit down for two days to put together a video?

Hell is it that hard to have one person sit down for 10 minutes and hit record and upload?

Why does it take 6+ weeks to do that?

I don't get it..  please explan.

 
PerlFtwin14  7/24/08 8:08:59 AM

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because developing and finishing the game is more important than providing a video of the game.

 

content > hype.

 

nothing wrong with that. it's clear what they're doing: using their regular testing sessions to accumulate footage then using and cutting from that footage, rather than spending time just for the video.

 

makes a lot of sense if you ask me.

 
Xxeon  7/24/08 8:29:04 AM

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Originally posted by PerlFtwin14

because developing and finishing the game is more important than providing a video of the game.

 

content > hype.

 

nothing wrong with that. it's clear what they're doing: using their regular testing sessions to accumulate footage then using and cutting from that footage, rather than spending time just for the video.

 

makes a lot of sense if you ask me.


 

Exactully

 
ghoul31  7/24/08 8:52:59 AM

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making a video isn't that hard. The only possible reason they haven't released a video showing all the games features is that the features aren't in the game yet, or are broken. You can't make a video of something that doesn't exist.

 

 
Xxeon  7/24/08 8:55:06 AM

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Originally posted by ghoul31

making a video isn't that hard. The only possible reason they haven't released a video showing all the games features is that the features aren't in the game yet, or are broken. You can't make a video of something that doesn't exist.

 


 

actully the way the second post and my quote makes perfect since.  So why dont you chill and wait throw next month

 
Catizone  7/24/08 9:01:10 AM

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Originally posted by PerlFtwin14

because developing and finishing the game is more important than providing a video of the game.


But it is finished. According to tasos they could have a Beta tomorrow if they wanted too. Can't exactly do that without having a finished game. Not to mention it's launching in a few months. So it must be finished.

Unless of course he was LYING

Someone should send this old lady to Tasos. She has the right question.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug75diEyiA0

 

"I don't think there's anybody back there "

LOL describes Darkfall to a tee.

 
PerlFtwin14  7/24/08 9:22:53 AM

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Originally posted by ghoul31

making a video isn't that hard. The only possible reason they haven't released a video showing all the games features is that the features aren't in the game yet, or are broken. You can't make a video of something that doesn't exist.

 

So the 6 videos and 600+ screenshots they've released prove it exists? glad we agree on that.

 
PerlFtwin14  7/24/08 9:25:55 AM

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Originally posted by Catizone
Originally posted by PerlFtwin14

because developing and finishing the game is more important than providing a video of the game.


But it is finished. According to tasos they could have a Beta tomorrow if they wanted too. Can't exactly do that without having a finished game. Not to mention it's launching in a few months. So it must be finished.

 

Feature-complete doesn't mean bug-free, and "finished" is a relative term for a MMO.

 

They've stated over and over again they will not released until they're happy with it; they've also said they will release < 2008, so sure, it's fair to assume that we'll see a beta announcement in the next 2 months.

 

Go for a walk outside, get a GF and stop obsessing. it'll be released when it's done, and no amount of your tears and tantrums are going to change that.

 

 
Catizone  7/24/08 9:29:31 AM

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Originally posted by PerlFtwin14

So the 6 videos and 600+ screenshots they've released prove it exists? glad we agree on that.


 

Dark and Light exists too.

 
ghoul31  7/24/08 9:31:12 AM

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Originally posted by PerlFtwin14

  they've also said they will release < 2008, so sure, it's fair to assume that we'll see a beta announcement in the next 2 months.

 


 

They say a lot of things. They said in 2003 that beta would begin in a month. And they have been lying about beta ever since. Now they are saying they will release in 2008. I'll believe it when I see it. Especially since they won't even show the game to anyone.

 

 
Hauken  7/24/08 9:53:46 AM

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Well they said they are gonna release the game in 2008. So i guess a video with ingame features and a UI is long overdue or at best in the nick of time. 3-5 months of beta is a minimum for a game of this kind. So I expect they will again announce that they are gonna delay the release. Q1-Q2 2009?

Better make it right the first time and dont release some halfarsed POS game filled with bugs and possible sploits.

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PerlFtwin14  7/24/08 9:56:24 AM

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circumstances change - in 2003 Darkfall as a project was significantly expanded when it went from 4 guys in Razorwax to Aventurine, around 20 people.

 

in 2006 it looks like they were gearing up for some kind of release, perhaps due to development money running out? later dev journals suggest they received another influx of money, enough to fund a couple more years' expansion, refinement and debugging, which they also explained.

 

cherry picking from historical dev journals and taking them out of their context doesn't really prove anything, except they are perhaps too open about their plans. if other companies had the balls to be as forthcoming as Av, then you'd see that pushing back and revising release schedules happens ALL the time in the industry.

 

also, as a self-funded indie studio, they have the luxury of taking their time to make it good.

 

 

 
ghoul31  7/24/08 10:01:37 AM

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Originally posted by PerlFtwin14

 pushing back and revising release schedules happens ALL the time in the industry.

 


 

No, missing your release date by 5 years and counting, doesn't happen all the time in the industry.

 

 
PerlFtwin14  7/24/08 10:03:08 AM

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Originally posted by Hauken

Well they said they are gonna release the game in 2008. So i guess a video with ingame features and a UI is long overdue or at best in the nick of time. 3-5 months of beta is a minimum for a game of this kind. So I expect they will again announce that they are gonna delay the release. Q1-Q2 2009?

 

it's a mostly first-person game and the UI is minimal so you can stop talking about missing UI stuff... there's plenty of screenies and video time showing the basic in-game UI, which is basically only a mini-terrain-only map, a health/mana/stamina bar, and a target/action cursor that appears when you mouse-over stuff. that IS the main UI.

 

there is still 5months 1 week left of 2008, plenty of time for, say, a 2-3 month beta and release by christmas. be patient ;-)