Darkfall
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- Developer: Aventurine SA
- Genre: Fantasy
- Status: Development (est. release 2008)
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Darkfall » General Discussion » Self-publishing and F2P mini-mall business model... will it work?
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Shannia 5/11/08 10:32:55 AM
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"We''re not making a game for Trekkies" Daron Stinnett, Perpetual Entertainment |
The developers are on record as saying this will be a P2P game but have not ruled anything out. For arguments sake, let's say DFO goes self publishing with a F2P/mini-mall business model, will you play? Discuss.
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Catizone 5/11/08 10:37:21 AM
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For that to work you need a massive amount of items and variety. I personally don't think DF can work as P2P at this point anymore. Maybe if it's like $9 month or something and is actually half way decent to play. |
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DarthRaiden 5/11/08 11:32:17 AM
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Joined: 11/20/05
Your perfect smile, Forum Terrorist |
They stated there will be no free to play. No point in speculations.You have to pay monthly subscription fees. |
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Shannia 5/12/08 12:50:37 AM
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Joined: 11/06/05
"We''re not making a game for Trekkies" Daron Stinnett, Perpetual Entertainment |
15 replies to Will you pre-order and only three replies on this topic. Honestly, I expected more from this crowd on this topic. |
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| "I'll take MMO disasters for $50 Alex. What MMO release in 2008 lost half its player base in the first month after massive hype of non existent features?" ed2099 "What is Age of Conan? ... Correct, for $50, Ed!" |
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Friction2u 5/12/08 1:58:38 AM
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Joined: 8/31/07
Yay! Quote! |
Only if, for arguments sake, Darkfall turns out to be a 60 foot tall land walking death-squid with tentacles made of solid gold! And not just any gold! It has to be Swiss-speaking Welsh gold! Why the **** would Darkfall be free-to-play? |
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Brenelael 5/12/08 7:47:18 AM
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Originally posted by Friction2uIt wouldn't and with the "gear is just gear" philosophy of this game it would have the worst Item Mall in the history of micro transaction games. It might work on the limited subscription model (ie, only letting paying customers get half of the content like Runescape does) but the Item Mall system just wouldn't work, period. I think however that DF will be a normal subscription based game like it's western counterparts so this whole argument is pointless to me.
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mike470 5/12/08 7:57:54 AM
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Citadel of Sorcery Correspondent
Joined: 2/11/08
"We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand" - Randy Pausch |
I don't believe it would work with an item mall because of the fact that there are most levels. Most item malls sell things that help people gain experience quicker, but that would not be possible in Darkfall because there is no experience to gain. Another thing would be that all of the best items are crafted, so they could not sell "uber gear" in the item mall, since people could just make them. I guess they could sell money & less powerful items, but I doubt they would go with this approach. |
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DarthRaiden 5/12/08 7:25:09 PM
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Tasos never mentioned self publishing and he talked most of the time about free to play business model. He wrote pages full about how well mini-mall business will run. He is not to trust when he mention Pay to Play. Either he is joking or he dunno what subscriptions means because well he is greek you know greeks dunno what year currently is on and i doubt he know the concept of months and days. Where do greek lives ? have they buildings and that like ? He said he will publish that personally and run a mall in Athens. You have to fly there to buy you a copy.You have to contact him before and appoint him for that tho so he has enough time to setup hawkers tray. Then this will work Tasos said, pointing to his mini-mall. Glad i could answer some serious questions... |
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mike470 5/12/08 9:17:44 PM
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Citadel of Sorcery Correspondent
Joined: 2/11/08
"We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand" - Randy Pausch |
Cash shops can destroy games too much. It gives unfair advantages to people who do not pay. So many games on the market are "free to play" but, as you play more, you find that you will be paying more and more money. In the end, many players wind up paying more than an actualy subscription. |
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MarL 5/12/08 9:27:59 PM
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Of course it could work if done correctly.... First all mmos you can buy gold in, from online sellers......so they could sell gold. Second if items are pvp lootable most wouldnt complain about an unfair advantage since you can get the item from the person who paid. Lastly theres always the pink dress that everyone seems to buy for no reason other than to be purty....
I don't really care if its f2p or not ,but there are many ways to make money from online games besides subscriptions. |
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Apraxis 5/13/08 5:40:52 AM
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Originally posted by ShanniaWell.. why should we discuss about a troll post.. and cheap witticism? With the history of DF and the millions of vaporware cryer a preorder would be not clever(and for any independent dev team), and the DF devs announced, that they will not have a pre order available, and anyone can play it before pay for it. So why is there a need to discuss? And about a item mall in a ffa pvp game with full loot? Come on. It is even more laughable.. and it is also announced that it will be pay to play. With other words those two topics are trolls, and nothing else, and it isnt worth my time to discuss a lame troll attempt. |
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daarco 5/13/08 9:26:07 AM
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Joined: 12/19/06
Want Darkfall now! |
Originally posted by mike470
When you read about the "items that help players get xp", you really understand how messed up it is. And people actually pays money for that? So why wouldent a real game as DF be P2P??? |
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Isane 5/15/08 6:11:21 PM
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"Some do , Some don''t , Others just cry" Jean Sali |
Originally posted by Shannia No point discussing it will be P2P. This has no relevance with respsct to DF. |
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