The only thing that makes me super bored of Runescape is the controls! I understand to some people it's great! But I just don't feel like I'm not my character.....it's really slow also! So i would like to bring up, what if RS changed from a point and click control scheme, to a WASD control scheme? There are only two things I can see Runescape being better with WASD controls, thats if it goes all WoW on us but keeps the skill leveling, sorry i said wow i know WoW isn't the first but it is the most popular, OR it could go Elder Scrolls and i mean that it goes into first person view, WASD controls, left click attacks right defends, it can still keep the skill leveling too which would be epic....I believe Runescape would benefit from the control change because I believe that one of it's biggest turn offs is the controls! Yes i know people will disagree this is just my Opinion :) So what do you all think? I believe the elder scrolls controls would make runescape SO EPIC! can't you imagine going into the dungeonerring stuff all first person style and slaying those big ass monsters with your friends?! it'd be like an elder scrolls mmo except with the charms and humors of RS! I know there are games like darkfall and Mortal Online, but Runescape would seriously be bad ass! So again this is just my opinion and i want to know what people think about it, maybe we can get Jagex to at least test it if we get a big group goin? lol sorry if i offended any RS fans but yeah i totally dislike the controls! lol

It would certainly change Everything.  I agree it would probably be more fun, but they would have to implement it correctly.  However, I dont see them doing it, at least not anytime soon.  Its been almost a decade and they havent hinted at changing it so in my opinion I dont see them doing it. 

But hey does anyone know if there new game will be mouse of keyboard controlled?  (stellar dawn)

Runescape is a caricature of what a F2P game should be. And by this i mean the amount of stuff that is limited to non-paying customers. Hell even the full game is simply you just doing the same repitition over and over grinding skills. Yea 99% mmo's pretty much have the same in some way or fashion but at least it's not cutting Oak wood till lvl 30, just so you can be able to cut Maple wood till 50.

Sandbox games are great, but when all you do is 'act' like ur a farmer, mage, or herbalist, it's not very fun. In other games you can actually be those things, in runescape, ur just pretending. Least thats how it felt to me.

tl;dr - Runescape sucks. Control change won't change this.

I can't imagine them changing the combat system. What I'd like to see is a Runescape 3. What I'v always loved about Runescape are its quests, the grand exchange, the humor, the lore, the wilderness(including the awesome looting thing), and the fact that you can level up pretty much anything. Especially the quests. Remember Draynor Manor? You had to go look for all of that stuff, and solve that puzzle in the basement. Remember Goblin Deplomacy? Rescue Prince Ali? Rune Mysteries? You don't see that in MMOs. Don't say you do(excluding Ultima, Meridian 59, and other oldies).One thing I almost forgot: the fact that they pretty much make you walk everywhere :P Yeah, I like that. In most MMOs, I wouldn't want to walk everywhere...it would feel like a waste of time since you know that you could be running and getting there a lot faster, but I like to walk and take in the scenery, and it makes it feel, you know, realistic. Like an adventure.

If they made a Runescape 3 that had all of that stuff, but improvements in the graphics and the combat, it'd be amazing. Also, I think that the *option* to download the game would be a big improvement. You wouldn't have to stop and wait for the game to download stuff every two minutes as your walking down the road.

Nah it probably wouldn't matter because it'd still be runescape.

Originally posted by i00x00i

Nah it probably wouldn't matter because it'd still be runescape.

What is your problem? do you have nothing beter to do in your life than post comments bashing runescape, with no constructive critisism. just "it'd still be runescape."

thats the second time you've commented like that. Eveeyones entitled to their own opinion but at least try to enforce it and be a bit mature...

lol at the haters which feel they still need to air their opinion

"Sandbox games are great, but when all you do is 'act' like ur a farmer, mage, or herbalist, it's not very fun. In other games you can actually be those things, in runescape, ur just pretending. Least thats how it felt to me."

-made my mind explode in pretty colours and laughter

'in other games you can actually be those things' (more than another virtual game?) xD wonder how they function in real life if they come up with crap like that within free will

Anyway, my own opinion to this would be no, no and no, the game style is too different, as another guy said, yes exactly you grind a CRAP lot (since when dont you grind in other games? in some games you just have a lovely little note saying "do this" and suddenly its less 'grindy' but your doing it. cause.. theres a point, wait..what?)

but overall i dont see them coming in handy with the game style, even pvp wise, it just isnt much of a point, even if you do feel your left hand somehow generates a connection with your character more than your right hand,  it just isnt runescape, i like runescapes style even tho i dont play it anymore, its a click play game with a style of its own, dont bash it cause its not similar to whatever game you enjoy dedicating your life to

and i'd say no to the 'left mouse hit right mouse block' game style as well with the same reasons (even tho i'll admit i love games like that, i really liked Risen, awesome game :3 )

think i've run out of words now, haters of all go die, we dont need you.

Edit: well said, guy above this post, tired of people like that, for example, they make world of warcraft look bad, advertising its community as so, never wanted to touch it with the impression i've gotten, and i'll keep myself away from it for the future as well. (seen the amount of crap from world of warcraft fans on games both here and on youtube?)

Nah WASD to move for Runescape would actually hinder your game experience because the game was built in that matter to be click to move. If you go to move around with that outer above character camera view with WASD you would get disorientated. For example if your facing North when you want to move south and hit the S to do so, then you will rotate to start moving down on the screen, then the W key would need to be used to move forward which would be weird for lot users moving down but still pressing W which is to go up or forward in most MMO's. I hope you see what I mean. Runescape users have played click to move so long now it would make the game pretty much unplayable.

They just have to make a new Runescape all the same cool old stuff, update it to a 3D game with WASD controls and try keep these type graphics.

Well first of all, runescape really isn't as bad as people say. It's like world of warcraft, in that everyone loves to hate it, just for different reasons. But its features list is definitely longer than most mmos.

 What I apreciated about runescape was that it was a lot more social than other mmo's, BUT unfortunately the community is really bad for the most part.

I still remember all the fun I had sitting around fishing lobsters and having good conversations with people...thats right, fun. Because that kind of interaction has been lost in mmo's. Then add in that it's questing system is very unique, and they pump out so muhc content for that game it makes other mmos content cycles look embarassing.

On the bad side, it's combat is horrible, the economy is broken(when I last played it which was years ago, idk whats happening now), and there is only so much they can do with the engine.

What I wish they would do Is make it a client based game, up to graphical standards, better engine obviously. That way they can revamp the combat into something more interactive or maybe just into a diablo-type combat. Then keep all the other systems in place, except for the gathering. Then change the gathering:crafting ratio so that the price differences between raw materials and crafted goods are better.

^ adverts on a forum? have i been missing out or is this as new for other people as for me?

Originally posted by willo248

Originally posted by i00x00i

Nah it probably wouldn't matter because it'd still be runescape.

What is your problem? do you have nothing beter to do in your life than post comments bashing runescape, with no constructive critisism. just "it'd still be runescape."

thats the second time you've commented like that. Eveeyones entitled to their own opinion but at least try to enforce it and be a bit mature...

Posting two negative comments about Runescape within the past month earns me the Runescape bash throne huh? Cool. I would go more in-depth with my criticism but I feel it's unnecessary since you, being a Runescape fan, have probably heard it all before. But if you insist..

1) PvP takes absolutely no skill. You can actually go AFK in certain PvP scenarios and still earn rewards. What kind of game allows AFK PvP? On top of that the point, click and eat style of PvP is a pathetic excuse for gameplay.

2) The community. Too many 9 year olds or maybe just too many middle aged men that act like their 9 year olds. Not a fan either way.

3) Gameplay and graphics are dated. No I don't judge a game by it's graphics, I play minecraft and absolutely love the little 16bit sandbox bundle of joy but for some reason Runescapes graphics just bother me. MMORPG's should never be coded with Java in my opinion, it looses so much potential for immersion because Java allows so little freedom in gameplay mechanics and graphics.

4) The grind. Everything you do in Runescape is 80% grindbased and that's a lenient percentage. Chop tree's for hours to gain woodcutting skills, mine ores for hours to gain mining skills, hack rats for hours to gain combat skill, etc. I fail to see the fun in this especially when character actions and combat are nothing less than humorous. Oh thats right most of the Runescape community uses AFK bots anyway.

5) I've moved on. It's that simple, This is one of the first MMO's I played and that was about 5 years ago. It was ok then and it's still just ok now. I could never go back knowing how much more the MMO industry has to offer. But hey, to each his own.

If you'd like a longer list please just ask I'd be happy to oblige. Cheers =]

"Go <here> and kill <this> so you can come back to me and kill <this> because they're in my way" quests are infinitely worse than grind =/

A quest should feel like an adventure. Runescape's among the least gindiest F2P MMOs I've ever played. You grind until you have enough skill levels to do a quest...or enough of a trade skill to make *enough* money. Anymore grind than that is punishing yourself, and it's your own fault. The combat's fail, but no more fail than 95% of the other MMOs, F2P or not, that are out there right now. 

Originally posted by Feverfew

"Go and kill so you can come back to me and kill because they're in my way" quests are infinitely worse than grind =/

A quest should feel like an adventure. Runescape's among the least gindiest F2P MMOs I've ever played. You grind until you have enough skill levels to do a quest...or enough of a trade skill to make *enough* money. Anymore grind than that is punishing yourself, and it's your own fault. The combat's fail, but no more fail than 95% of the other MMOs, F2P or not, that are out there right now. 

the actual quests in this game are probably the best out on the market, each quest is completely unique and the dialogue is genuinely funny. I've yet to find a MMO that can compete with the quests on RS

Originally posted by trey44

Originally posted by Feverfew

"Go and kill so you can come back to me and kill because they're in my way" quests are infinitely worse than grind =/

A quest should feel like an adventure. Runescape's among the least gindiest F2P MMOs I've ever played. You grind until you have enough skill levels to do a quest...or enough of a trade skill to make *enough* money. Anymore grind than that is punishing yourself, and it's your own fault. The combat's fail, but no more fail than 95% of the other MMOs, F2P or not, that are out there right now. 

the actual quests in this game are probably the best out on the market, each quest is completely unique and the dialogue is genuinely funny. I've yet to find a MMO that can compete with the quests on RS

This. I thought, I was the only one that thought this.

Not only are the quests interesting, after finishing, they can change your gameplay completely in how you grind money or XP.