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Star Wars: The Old Republic Videos: MMOFTW - Ep 9 - Runescape, SWTOR Layoffs, and The War Z (7:02)

In this week's MMOFTW, we discuss a plethora of news from Rich Vogel's departure at BioWare, to Runescape's 200 Millionth Account, as well as a brand new zombie MMO shooter announced: The War Z. All this in more in this week's MMOFTW!

In this week's MMOFTW, we discuss a plethora of news from Rich Vogel's departure at BioWare, to Runescape's 200 Millionth Account, as well as a brand new zombie MMO shooter announced: The War Z. All this in more in this week's MMOFTW!
Duration: 7:02
Views: 8,948  38 comments
Game: Star Wars: The Old Republic
Direct Link: http://youtu.be/qFrFs-s-mZk
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Newnan writes:

you got me, damn you gw2 withdraw.

 

 

Mon Jul 23 2012 11:48AM Report
jeremyjodes writes:

Good Show. Nice ding at the end.

Mon Jul 23 2012 1:21PM Report
Dren_Utogi writes:

ya bill ! Good cast. I too am having gw2 withdraw.

Mon Jul 23 2012 2:20PM Report
mmoguy43 writes:

I don't think this talk of players wanting sandboxy games will end.

..and I like it.

Mon Jul 23 2012 2:20PM Report
Torvaldr writes:

Nice show.  Short, to the point, and newsy.  I like it.

Good piece on the sandbox.  And no, I don't want EA doing the next big sandbox.  I'm not sure who could pull it off at this point.

Mon Jul 23 2012 5:08PM Report
stragen001 writes:

Yeah, someone please make the sandbox fans a AAA sandbox so they can all go and live there......Personally I suspect it will never happen because publishers know there just isnt the market, or if it does happen, it will fail, just like all the other recent AAA sandboxes

Mon Jul 23 2012 5:21PM Report
Purutzil writes:

People love a sandbox MMO but when you look at it in terms of what it means, most people will end up not playing it. Take a look at Eve. Starting off your basically nothing and stand virutally no chance of 'making it' in the game. The power established has control and the only thing that might get you to reach the top is if that power for some reason just quits.

The reason DayZ works is since its all individual servers. If it was all one massive server you would see people being constantly ganked by far more geared individuals and all the resources and good being controlled, leaving new players very little they can do to gain progress. 

With Sandbox that gains 'progress' for players, it will involve grinding, and those at top will always stay at top so long as they play, and newer players will find that pedistal more and more impossible to reach.

Mon Jul 23 2012 5:29PM Report
BillMurphy writes:

@Noam: My wife likes it, and I prefer she enjoy my looks more than you my good man. But thanks for the kind criticism! 

I'll get off your lawn now too, sorry for messing up the grass.

Mon Jul 23 2012 5:29PM Report
Lawlmonster writes:

Great video, enjoyed the community spotlight segment regarding DayZ, and I think you made a great point: as much as I want a popular AAA sandbox, I'm not sure someone outside independent development could handle it correctly.

Mon Jul 23 2012 5:29PM Report
BillMurphy writes:

@Torvaldr: I really don't know either. Part of me wonders if it won't be the "standalone" version of Day Z that makes it really work. Will Dean and his crew take the time necessary (and the money earned) from the Arma II sales (Dean's a part of that dev team now) and turn this into a truly stellar zombie sandbox? Will they use the bright and shiny engine being used on Arma III? 

I sure hope so.

Mon Jul 23 2012 5:32PM Report
Mephster writes:

Sandbox zombie mmo ftw! Sick and tired ot theme park hand holding mmos. Good job with the vid!

Mon Jul 23 2012 5:38PM Report
Maverick827 writes:

Honestly, thank you for just reporting the news about the BioWare Austin layoffs and accurately quoting the official $100 mllion dollar figure rather than fearmongering about people leaving the studio or quoting the false $300 million figure.  

I could have done without the shot at EA towards the end, but I guess this just wouldn't be mmorpg.com if someone wasn't needlessly complaining about a major publisher somewhere.

Mon Jul 23 2012 6:31PM Report
jleeii writes:

Good piece this week Bill, not that the others weren't, but good stuff. 

Mon Jul 23 2012 6:33PM Report
rdrakken writes:

And today, Bioware fired everyone working on SWTOR and released this press release.

"As with the launch of any MMO, the size and skillset of the teams needed to maintain the game, is different than the teams that built it."

Nothing to see here folks, move along.

Mon Jul 23 2012 6:37PM Report
Matticus75 writes:

yea the milk cow ad was the best........

Mon Jul 23 2012 7:28PM Report
7-Thunder-23 writes:

First off. its the 23rd not the 23th.... second.. Give credit to Day Z for the footage that you mislead people into believing was War Z..... All the footage shown was not War Z.. All that is released about War Z is some stupid concept screen shots.. Day Z is the real deal.  

Mon Jul 23 2012 7:59PM Report
forceofchad writes:

I like MMOFTW i think Bill has a definite perspective on the future of MMOs

Mon Jul 23 2012 8:44PM Report
chaintm writes:

Wow, thats some nerve to say "Would you like someone like EA (emphise , pause) to be in control of your sandbox?". While large companies latly seem to be the anti-everything. One has to note that choices corporations make might not always be the best for everyone they are not always the worst as well.

You boast planetside, yet planetside is owned by a larger company known as Sony. Where is the "sony" remark. meh I don't take fault to any or all, but in the end I give you kudos or a "you got balls" image to bite the hand that feeds you. Good luck getting those future interviews for anything EA.

Mon Jul 23 2012 9:04PM Report
CujoSWAoA writes:

The guy can't label every huge company that screws up their gaming products. 

Bill poked at the nose of Electronic Arts and thats a damn fitting nose to be poking at, whether or not other studios/companies have equal noses or not. 

Mon Jul 23 2012 9:32PM Report
BruceYee writes:

Great episode.

Mon Jul 23 2012 9:37PM Report
ragz45 writes:

Astounded that someone from MMORPG just called out EA.  I love it.  I beyond love it, I now would like to have puppies with MMORPG.com

Mon Jul 23 2012 9:49PM Report
erictlewis writes:

Another great episode thanks Bill, we can tell you are doing a great job.  Thanks for calling out ea that was a good one.

 

Mon Jul 23 2012 10:10PM Report
TheCrow2k writes: @stragen001 - I'm fairly sure SWTOR has proven people are sick of wow clones too & yet the industry seems to "know" this is what sells. Honestly at this point I think MMO publishers have NFI what the market wants. Mon Jul 23 2012 11:15PM Report
Beezerbeez writes:

Good stuff, BM!  You're a gamer and it shows.  Nice shot across the bow too!  Bravo.

Tue Jul 24 2012 12:17AM Report
Thanes writes:

For now on I'm making all my avatars look like Bill Murphy.

 

(kidding Bill)

Tue Jul 24 2012 1:11AM Report
emperorwings writes:

Runescape, 150 mil of bots, 50 mil real players accounts created about 100k playerbase these days so really about 1 mil are playing which is still pretty good. GW2 = endgame lvl 1 or lvl 2 in PVE.  Too bad SOE is doing PS2 otherwise I'd like to play it. Once DayZ goes standalone and gets further along I might look more into it I'd love to see it go pro while still staying indie. If I ever play a game where I can customise the mini picture on the side of your name when you are in a guild I might make it look like Bill Murpheys head lol jk.

Tue Jul 24 2012 5:58AM Report
AkaJetson writes:

For the person above me, they have about 1mil paying members and about maybe 5mil active free players

Tue Jul 24 2012 6:28AM Report
Vannor writes:

It's bit misleading that you have footage of Day-Z on when you are talking about War Z. Should be a note or something on the screen at the least.

Tue Jul 24 2012 10:48AM Report
mmozombie writes:

what happend to posting these on facebook, it was nice to recieve these videos in my feed! please start posting these on FB again! Thanks!

Tue Jul 24 2012 1:00PM Report
bubaluba writes:

Finally some good looking postapocalyptic mmo. GW2 for casual playing and War Z for serious business

Tue Jul 24 2012 2:35PM Report
Robbgobb writes:

Was ok. Intro was not too aMOOzing to me. I am curious on what is going to happen with EA and MMOs as seems to always go bad.

Tue Jul 24 2012 3:40PM Report
Pratt2112 writes:

I don't see Bill's remark about EA at the end to be a "pot shot" at all.

 

It's a very legitimate question.

 

Consider this...

 

Before around November of 2004, most big name publishers and development houses wouldn't have touched MMOs of any kind with a ten foot pole. They weren't "proven" enough to their satisfaction to bother even trying.

Then WoW happened, and that all changed.

Suddenly, MMOs had the attention of the big companies, like EA, Activision, etc. Not because they suddenly realized "oh, gee, these really can be a fun experience and we should make one". But becuase they realized "Oh, look at all the people playing that WoW game. That's a lot of money we could be making too". And so they jumped on the bandwagon, and we see what happened to the MMO genre after that. It became a non-stop routine of "me-too" clones attempting to steal a piece of Blizzard's behemoth.

 

Consider this...

 

Cash Shops existed and were quite popular in Eastern countries for several years, at least, prior to even being introduced in the West. Most big companies wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole. Why? They didn't understand them and it wasn't a proven revenue model to them. "Making money by letting people play for free" must have seemed pretty counter-intuitive to them.

 

Then they started to see the kind of money being made through Cash Shops. Not to mention illegal RMT. Then they started to see how much Cash Shops and RMT made compared to what they were making on box sales and subscriptions alone. Suddenly, it "clicked" and they were embracing F2P/Cash like it was the very air they needed to breathe.

 

They didn't suddenly decide "Oh gee! If we switch to this F2P model, then we can let more people play and enjoy our game without paying us anything! Won't that be swell!". No, they did it because they saw how Cash Shops could mean more $$$$ for them.

 

The big companies have since been turning the revenue model upside down and inside out, trying any and every angle they think might bring them in even more $$$, without necessarily improving the player experience in the process.

 

So now consider this...

 

Sandbox MMOs have not been given a lot of attention, or even any for that matter, because right now, they are where MMOs and Cash Shops were several years ago. They aren't a proven model yet, and so they stay away.

 

The moment someone comes along and finds a setup for a true sandbox MMO that is also highly profitable, you bet the big guys, like EA, Activision, SOE and the rest will be all over it as well, finding every way they can to squeeze more money of their players.

 

Tue Jul 24 2012 5:12PM Report
tron21369 writes:

good one bill woot  on old republic  when i was playing guild wars 2 i was hearing some of the voice overs from old republic i saw that was awsome to help those guys that got layed off and went to guild wars 2

saw a  article on that  so iam gessing old republic poly go down hill ? do to bad stuff that EA is doing any one from old republic think that star wars old repoublic will go down hill or some thing ? yeah iam waitng for guild wars 2 happly : )

Tue Jul 24 2012 8:16PM Report
tron21369 writes:

oh bill love the cow add to i  rember that lol

Tue Jul 24 2012 8:18PM Report
tron21369 writes:

bill make youir own add   like  the 'hot pockets'   but for guild wars 2

like this  ' u dont need -da date?  u need   da- guild war 2222222'

Tue Jul 24 2012 8:25PM Report
Maverick827 writes: @TangentPoint It's pretty obvious he was just playing on the popular trend of "EA is evil," not making some complex statement about the nature of all big companies and modern game development. If he was, then he should have devoted more time to the topic. Either way, the short comment was just a bit of bad journalism in an otherwise good episode. Wed Jul 25 2012 9:45AM Report
BillMurphy writes:

I'll make it more clear next time, but the community spotlight portion is the part I reserve in the show for a little editorial commentary. Ergo? I'll say whatever's on me wee little noggin.  ;)

Wed Jul 25 2012 7:53PM Report
Crazy00Eyes writes:

It's one thing to theorize on DayZ style sandbox MMOs coming out in the future, but please dont straight up lie to the viewers in the comments and act like one has been announced when you are just wondering about it.

Sun Jul 29 2012 6:01AM Report