NICE!

game looks good and everything, but I'm really getting sick of the devs trying to pass off the combat as much more complicated than it actually is in these videos.

Can't wait to play :)

Awsome to think thats all on lvl 9 .. lol

Is it just me or does the cover mechanic look like is does absolutely nothing except make the smuggler crouch behind something? I'm mean it looked like he was still taking damage while behind it and everything.

my question is, what happens if some fool decides to AFK during a dialogue and its his turn to answer?  is the group made to wait until fool returns?

ummm, skill animation looks really really crap ..

yup the game story is awesome but devs are overhyping the combat system its the same as any other mmorpg (wow,aion,war,etc...)

Yeah.....

Nice to see a longer CLIP, but if you watched the trooper only seemed to do 1,2,1,2,3,1,2.... Smuggler yeah the cover mechanic was a bit WTF there taking damage. But they did also note after so many hits he could get knocked out. So I am with most of you that the combat "system" is nothing more than a few keys to macro at most.

Good luck, we're all counting on you.  :)

Unfortunately, the story driven dialogue will kill this game.  It's just not gonna be fast enough for the WoW crowd.

That particular cover device (the blue sheild) is not the same as if the person jumped behind actual cover.

They stated that if you put up your own cover (the blue shield with lines) that you still take some damage (probably relative to the level of the skill) if your behind the blue cover.  This is suppose to be used when you can't find any natural cover so you can use your cover skills.  However it is always better to find natural cover if you can.

Natural cover (enviromental like hiding behind a fallen pillar) will work as normal (crouched behind the cover you take no damage, standing you take normal damage.

its like hes saying the trooper is now doing this and that, and now he's doing the same thing again.. and now he's doing the same thing again but in a different pitch of my voice.. lol

and the smuggler shooting his blaster from 3 feet away was kind of a silly view :P

but still, im looking forward to the game, im sure it will be at least a few months of star wars fun!

The entire game looks like the ground game for Star Trek Online.  Which was not that games best quality.  No real space content in Tor either. 

And in between, dull interactive dialogue scenes.  Bleh....

Wow that looked so boring especially the last fight with the boss guy just standing there shooting a pistol and pretty much everyone else standing hitting him point blank.

Why is it such a huge problem to some people that trooper shoots full-auto for example many times? Should the shot be every time different and from a different button? Or how should it be better, what game does it better? Is there a game where your char has 16,345 moves so you can do everytime a different move when you attack something, untill after few days you need to start from move 1?

I've played many RPG's FPS's etc and you always have a set of skills and abilities, and you use the same skills and abilities ALOT in every single game I've ever played, so what's the problem? :)

Every game out there gives you a set of abilities and you work with them, all the Firefalls, Arche Ages and GW2's will work like that, you have a set of abilities and you work with them, and you WILL BE using ALOT of same abilities over and over again in those games.

Ps. At lvl9 you propably also dont have that many abilities.

I agree with Bomber72. The ADA kids from WOW won't like all the dialogue. I am not sure I do and I can actually focus on something for longer than 10 minutes

Kind of  looking forward to how this is all going to play out in the MMO Market.

It's going to be big... Whatever it is.

I wonder where "Power Man" was to leave poor "Iron Fist" there to fight alone, they are usually a great team....sorry for my comic book humor! Seriously though, Ironfist is sorta cheesy for the boss name taken straight from Marvel Comics (well they put his name all in one word here versus the Marvel "Iron Fist") heh!

Anyone else notice that during those combat scenes none of the models cast shadows and the whole place is lite by "ambient" light, no really light sources present.  Makes it look really really chezzy like a bad cartoon or somthing.

Imperial speak with a normal englih accent while most Republic figures speak with a Brooklyn accent...terrible....This is not star wars...THIS is just based on Starwars

lamest sarcastic clap ever by iron,...whatever his name was

5:38 = Sorry Mario, but your princess is in a different castle?

Things I find funny;

-Random butt-off-the-gun blow to that guy's head at 10:47.

-The awkward clapping at 10:50... what the hell is up with the clapping?

Anyone else have a problem wtith the fact that this is a group-only mission yet everyone says "I" instead of "we" during the dialogue scenes?

Dameonk, I thought I was the only one who noticed that. It just takes you out of the experience when you hear that.

I just can't get behind the story on this game it is too mixed maxed in the Star Wars time line.

dull, bad gfx, childish and no replay value. you are all waiting for THAT?

Hmmm.   The only part of the video that bothered me was that the enemies would have 2-3 jedi chopping on them with lightsabers and they'd just stand there shooting as if it wasn't having any physical affect on them at all.  Only when they run out of hit points did they react by falling dead.  There was no attempt to block, move, or anything.  No reaction. 

This:

"Hmmm.   The only part of the video that bothered me was that the enemies would have 2-3 jedi chopping on them with lightsabers and they'd just stand there shooting as if it wasn't having any physical affect on them at all.  Only when they run out of hit points did they react by falling dead.  There was no attempt to block, move, or anything.  No reaction."

this looks like utter garbage...gonna get annoying having to go through these storylines everytime u want to repeat something...

I hate to say this, but its looking kind of bland and those may be the worst voice overs ive ever heard from Bioware. This video was a pretty big let down.

This looks so much like KotOR, and thats a good thing. :)

I just had a rare moment of clarity. I realized that the obnoxious notes I read from some of the complainers, stating that they don't like this or that, are from PRECISELY the folks that I hope do NOT play the game.  I am so happy that they don't like the story emphasis! This means I probably won't have to figure out how to ignore them in game.

Ya.. I mean the story stuff is cool.. but it's not going to help that boring same old combat.

shakes head in disbelief at all these 'yea great game' 'cannot wait' 'ordered alrdeady' posts.

Anyone with half a brain can see that the spin mongers are on this website.

I really hope that tor is the next big thing, i realize that all what is being posted on forums and cgi movies that are shown (that n00bs think is actually game footage) is just spin city .. people need to wake up and look more deeply into what really has been shown and then make comments.

or am i the only one that can see through the marketing and purpose  made clips of the game, and thibnk yea great!.

i really dont wish evil on the game but comeon .. you need to take the blinkers off the horse so you can see the shxt.

Good stuff. lets hope the Wow kids don't like this game. they have a uncanny ability to ruin communitys with all the chuck norris jokes and saying "Ding!" in guild chat. My TOR guild has agreed to kick anyone that sez ding. no if and nad or buts about it. Good stuff really looking forward to this game.

<opens door> Good luck, we're all counting on you! <closes door>

wow the start of this looked so incredibly boring. I'd hate for those scenes to take that long every time and still be that boring. HAH... :[

That art style in that picture of a ingame shot shows pretty well that this is really "Kids of the Old Republic"  It shows their SW fan target audience is the Cartoon clone wars fans.

This is really nothing but WoW with a new skin...

If I wasn't such a Star Wars nerd I'd probably discard this right now. I'm not sure if it being Star Wars is enough to keep me interested :(

They also have to stop making the combat sound so interesting and interactive.. it's always the same sequence of buttonmashing, best seen by the smuggler.

Stop showing us what we're gonna see when we play! god damn game spoilers! lol >_>

Re. the smuggler cover mechanic being useless, yep it pretty much seems that way. After all the promises about avoiding the obvious issue with sci-fi MMOs involving two people standing 20 feet apart and shooting each other in the face till one health bar runs out, well guess what? Anyway, it all comes down to how much you can suspend your disbelief with obviously silly things like that going on. Thankfully, I think the jedi lightsabre deflection and the heavily armoured classes should seem more credible when being blastered repeatedly. That said, gimme gimme gimme!! 

George Lucas needs to be rolled in tar and feathers.

Fresh take on the story line but I think it will get very old very fast,  I do like story lines but do not really want to be forced into them when I just want to play the game.

Graphics look decient but the voice overs all seem a bit monotone.

Game play looks very clustered, hard to tell who is who and what everyone is doing.

Star wars fans will be fanatical about this game while gamers will be put off by the dirrected story line.  Hopefully the game opens up ALOT and lets gamers do what they want to do and not  be dirrected down a straight line.

All in all I would rate this game 3.5 out of 5 stars just from the clip alone.

When they kill the engineers, the narrator says something like "the group decided to take the dark side path"... what if someone in the group does not want to take the dark side path? Is it going to be the group leader's decision? Damn that's gonna be fun, awesome gimmick for building a community :))

LOL, looks like #$%&

The voice overs are lame

The graphics are just terrible, i mean... even WOW has better character models.

The combat!!!!!!! hahahaha, it looks so dated, dull, generic and cheap, just like the whole game.

80-150 millions in development? more like 60 in voice overs, 10 in development (copy & paste) and all the rest in advertisement and paid reviews at launch.

How many lightsaber stabs in the back does it take to kill a Mandalorian?

Bioware:  100

Correct Answer:  1

Trooper is keyboard turning... eeeewwwww

SWG actually looks better despite it's age with everything cranked up to max. I suspect it has more to do with the artwork than the actual graphics.

I think it's funny how the devs throw in ego boosting phrases in the game dialogue.

"You really cleared this place out, I didn't run into a single imperial on my way down here."

"Wait there aren't more of you?"

Not to say other games don't do that, it's just more obvious when spoken.

I think it looks fantastic.  I just want the game to release.  I grow weary of the dangling carrots Bioware.  I think the graphics look fine, who wants incredible graphics that lag the hell out of everyone during group play??  Not I.

The single most popular mmo in the history of 'ever' had everyone bitching about the cartoony graphics for the first four years it was out, but it enabled a lot more people to play it.  

ahhh some good old game :)

Looks good, though I don't like the narrating of skill usage during the combat, imo it would be better just to see it without.

why is this mmo? story looks nice.. but combat.. omg :(

Combat just doesn't seem that much fun.  And why on Earth would adding a portable cover power ever seem like a good idea, especially since the smuggler ended up dying... looks stupid and doesn't seem effective.

 The combat looks boring and old, the animations look ancient, and the over all asthetic and graphical power backing that asthetic make me want to getm y revovler, bring my monitor out back and put it down nice like for hte pain its suffered.

This game would benefit LOTS by having the Shooter Mode implemented in Star Trek Online's ground combat.

The animations look horrible

The engine looks outdated

Why did bioware not create a real next gen mmo instead of using this kind of style ?

Compare this with GW2 and AIon or Archeage and you see what i mean when talking about the Engine of SW.

And check the animations of a mmo like Aion who use and cryengine of the year 2005 -_-

Heavely disapapointed  by bioware.

Maybe because they wanted to create a MMO that people can play on low end machines without lag or frame rate issues and thus make it accessable to a larger audience?

I remember the last time a MMO purposefully went with low end graphics so that more people could easily play it.  The company was called Blizzard, you may have heard of them.  I think they're doing all right now.

I fully understand that they don't want high end rigs to be required in order to play it but when a 8 year old game looks better there are simply no excuses. Now graphics alone isn't as essential as in some other genres but even the gameplay looks boring, like a slightly updated version of KOTOR without pause gunction that is. Sorry from what I have seen so far it doesn't cut it but I suspect the IP will give it a period of grace. Time will tell.

If the Star Wars name wasn't attached to this game, we wouldn't even be talking about it.

I can see the chat channels now.

LFG, Flashpoint no Dark side spacing Engineering crew

Not worth a subscription. The final "boss" just stands there. I'll wait when it goes free to play, and it will.

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That is very true and my biggest worry.

The IP is all that even has me interested in this game at this point; and I don't think it will be enough...

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Just need it to last until Guild Wars 2 comes out and I'll be fine :) lata guyz