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  grimal

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2/28/13 1:35:31 PM#101
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by grimal
Their forums.  Their rules.  Nothing new here.

Yeah that is well fair enough but you can not see them, they removed them

It reminds me of the Dukes of Hazzard. Sherriff Roscoe removes a road sign, then the Dukes do not see the sign, and so break the law, Roscoe then replaces the sign, and give the Dukes a ticket

Originally posted by Karteli

Last month EA put new forum rules into their "system".  They still enforce the rules, but because of backlash, they removed them from their Developer Blogs.

 

Doesn't matter.   Their forums.  They can do whatever they want.   This OP is really just making a mountain out of a molehill.

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  OG_Zorvan

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2/28/13 1:39:49 PM#102
Don't play the crappy game, you don't have to worry about the crappy forums. It's simple really.

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  ktanner3

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2/28/13 1:41:02 PM#103
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by Muke

 


SWG was run by 2,5 devs for years after it had been bandoned before they finally pulled the plug...servers were desolate 2005 and onward......and still it kept running through microtransactions....so unless a new Star Wars franchose comes along, they could stretch this out for as many years as Sony did.

Thing is though that SWG was a cheap as chips to run, and the devs loved coding ....(broken record)

SWG never had microtransactions

Yes SWG did have microtransactions. It was started in 2008 and was called the Trading Card Game. You buy new packs of cards which gave you the ability to aquire in game items. This was on top of the subscription fee you paid. That's what microtransactions are. You buy a pack and it's luck of the draw what you ended up getting. No different than TOR's cartel packs.

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  baphamet

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2/28/13 1:49:01 PM#104


Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by Raventree Honestly, I don't see the problem with their rules.  Many forums are cesspools of trolling, flame wars, rage threads, and exaggerated complaints that do nothing but irritate the crap out of the people reading it.  I have often wondered how some of the posters can be so consistently offensive and not get hit with the ban stick.  Enforcing some basic rules paves the way for more civil conversations to take place.  Also, like a few others have mentioned, it is not your forum, it is theirs.
When someone wants to talk frankly about SWTOR, all I can say is, are you serious Raventree?

 

Only positive threads allowed on SWTOR forums, think about it ? =D

 

No feedback.  Great idea.  No feedback is what EA wants (better for business).  With their system that is why they acost the SW IP, and drive the franchise into the mud.

 

Think about it.  Fan feedback might make this game happen.  No feedback because it gets squelched ... ahh .. big fail on EA and fans who supported that system.

 

 


sorry but they did not say nor imply that you cannot offer feedback in the original dev post that you posted.

it says they do not allow nonconstructive feedback, bashing the game or the game developers is not conductive feedback.

i don't go to he SWTOR forums but if its anything like this place i don't blame them one bit.

god forbid should people actually talk about the game rather than endlessly complain about how EA/BW failed.

is that constructive feedback? nope, it sure as hell is not.

constructive feedback is offering ways the game can improve or what is broken in the game.

unfortunately you would have to be a current player to offer feedback like that and i am willing to bet the vast majority of people that bash this game don't even play it.

so yeah,i don't blame them one bit for not allowing "nonconstructive feedback" which is the majority of the crap you see here too.

  superniceguy

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2/28/13 2:16:47 PM#105
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by Muke

 


SWG was run by 2,5 devs for years after it had been bandoned before they finally pulled the plug...servers were desolate 2005 and onward......and still it kept running through microtransactions....so unless a new Star Wars franchose comes along, they could stretch this out for as many years as Sony did.

Thing is though that SWG was a cheap as chips to run, and the devs loved coding ....(broken record)

SWG never had microtransactions

Yes SWG did have microtransactions. It was started in 2008 and was called the Trading Card Game. You buy new packs of cards which gave you the ability to aquire in game items. This was on top of the subscription fee you paid. That's what microtransactions are. You buy a pack and it's luck of the draw what you ended up getting. No different than TOR's cartel packs.

MT are deliberate purchases from a store. The TCG was not exactly the same.

The only MT that SWG did that I would call MT was the stuffed tauntaun pet, which SOE put out for charity, and then SOE paid double.

With the Cartel packs you still get something from it, for your character, whereas with SWG you get nothing unless you are into the TCG itself, making it a more risky process, and less desirable to go for. I never touched the TCG packs with a barge pole, and only just got the 5 free that came with the subscription. I have however bought some packs in STO though, as even though you may not get the best stuff, you still get something.

  superniceguy

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2/28/13 2:18:58 PM#106
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by grimal
Their forums.  Their rules.  Nothing new here.

Yeah that is well fair enough but you can not see them, they removed them

It reminds me of the Dukes of Hazzard. Sherriff Roscoe removes a road sign, then the Dukes do not see the sign, and so break the law, Roscoe then replaces the sign, and give the Dukes a ticket

Originally posted by Karteli

Last month EA put new forum rules into their "system".  They still enforce the rules, but because of backlash, they removed them from their Developer Blogs.

 

Doesn't matter.   Their forums.  They can do whatever they want.   This OP is really just making a mountain out of a molehill.

The OP is being nice and letting people know about the rules, so not to get into trouble.

  Karteli

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OP  2/28/13 2:21:39 PM#107
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by grimal
Their forums.  Their rules.  Nothing new here.

Yeah that is well fair enough but you can not see them, they removed them

It reminds me of the Dukes of Hazzard. Sherriff Roscoe removes a road sign, then the Dukes do not see the sign, and so break the law, Roscoe then replaces the sign, and give the Dukes a ticket

Originally posted by Karteli

Last month EA put new forum rules into their "system".  They still enforce the rules, but because of backlash, they removed them from their Developer Blogs.

 

Doesn't matter.   Their forums.  They can do whatever they want.   This OP is really just making a mountain out of a molehill.

Well the rules may not matter any longer anyways if nobody is around to enforce them.  Since the latest round of firings, there have been some definite rule breaking posts lingering around for quite awhile now.  The smaller mod team is overloaded it seems.

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  ktanner3

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2/28/13 3:01:05 PM#108
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by Muke

 


SWG was run by 2,5 devs for years after it had been bandoned before they finally pulled the plug...servers were desolate 2005 and onward......and still it kept running through microtransactions....so unless a new Star Wars franchose comes along, they could stretch this out for as many years as Sony did.

Thing is though that SWG was a cheap as chips to run, and the devs loved coding ....(broken record)

SWG never had microtransactions

Yes SWG did have microtransactions. It was started in 2008 and was called the Trading Card Game. You buy new packs of cards which gave you the ability to aquire in game items. This was on top of the subscription fee you paid. That's what microtransactions are. You buy a pack and it's luck of the draw what you ended up getting. No different than TOR's cartel packs.

MT are deliberate purchases from a store. The TCG was not exactly the same.

The only MT that SWG did that I would call MT was the stuffed tauntaun pet, which SOE put out for charity, and then SOE paid double.

With the Cartel packs you still get something from it, for your character, whereas with SWG you get nothing unless you are into the TCG itself, making it a more risky process, and less desirable to go for.

Again wrong. You could get podracers and paintings, all things that can be used in game. 

I never touched the TCG packs with a barge pole, and only just got the 5 free that came with the subscription. I have however bought some packs in STO though, as even though you may not get the best stuff, you still get something.

It doesn't matter if you played the TCG or if you don't consider the TCG to be on the same level as the Cartel Market. It was still a microtransaction because it was an item you bought seperately from the subscription fee. Each new expansion to the TCG brought new cards and new in-game items that could be bought with real life cash.. SWG for the last three years of its life had microtransactions. Period. To say otherwise is being dishonest. 

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  ignore_me

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2/28/13 4:23:48 PM#109

I see a lot of posts in this thread that are basically people attempting to sway dissenters from posting.

Why would you go to the trouble to debate the person who repeatedly posts negative posts about a game, if you are so "bored" of it? If it's "so annoying," and other invectives right out of the lexicon of a 14 year-old girl's complaint arsenal.

If you don't like negative posts, don't read them. As a hater I of course want you to read them, but it really is a waste of your time.

SWTOR killed SWG and attempted to take its fans. If you can't understand how this would create hatred, I suggest you read Machiavelli.

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  superniceguy

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2/28/13 4:29:11 PM#110
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by Muke

 


SWG was run by 2,5 devs for years after it had been bandoned before they finally pulled the plug...servers were desolate 2005 and onward......and still it kept running through microtransactions....so unless a new Star Wars franchose comes along, they could stretch this out for as many years as Sony did.

Thing is though that SWG was a cheap as chips to run, and the devs loved coding ....(broken record)

SWG never had microtransactions

Yes SWG did have microtransactions. It was started in 2008 and was called the Trading Card Game. You buy new packs of cards which gave you the ability to aquire in game items. This was on top of the subscription fee you paid. That's what microtransactions are. You buy a pack and it's luck of the draw what you ended up getting. No different than TOR's cartel packs.

MT are deliberate purchases from a store. The TCG was not exactly the same.

The only MT that SWG did that I would call MT was the stuffed tauntaun pet, which SOE put out for charity, and then SOE paid double.

With the Cartel packs you still get something from it, for your character, whereas with SWG you get nothing unless you are into the TCG itself, making it a more risky process, and less desirable to go for.

Again wrong. You could get podracers and paintings, all things that can be used in game. 

I never touched the TCG packs with a barge pole, and only just got the 5 free that came with the subscription. I have however bought some packs in STO though, as even though you may not get the best stuff, you still get something.

It doesn't matter if you played the TCG or if you don't consider the TCG to be on the same level as the Cartel Market. It was still a microtransaction because it was an item you bought seperately from the subscription fee. Each new expansion to the TCG brought new cards and new in-game items that could be bought with real life cash.. SWG for the last three years of its life had microtransactions. Period. To say otherwise is being dishonest. 

Nope I am not wrong. You did get podracers and paintings but only out of pot luck, and do not get it each and every time. I can open 15, 20 packs over 3 / 4 months and get nothing, then another time open 5 and get 2 things, but just doing that reminded me how much waste of money to actually buy those things. If I did not get the stuff in the free packs then did not bother. Do you get any ftee cartel packs with your monthly subscription to SWTOR?  I don't think so. In STO in the packs you get get a random item but if you are lucky you get a special item. In SWG the only thing you get are cards, so like I say if you are not lucky to get the specail SWG item then you get nothing unless you are into the TCG itself and after the cards.

Anyway, you know what I am getting at, and SWG certainly did not have MicrotransactionS

 

  baphamet

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2/28/13 4:49:05 PM#111


Originally posted by ignore_me

SWTOR killed SWG and attempted to take its fans. If you can't understand how this would create hatred, I suggest you read Machiavelli.


uhh no it didn't, it was known far before release that this game would be nothing like SWG.

i blame those SWG fans for getting their hopes up to begin with and not realizing this isnt SWG 2.

seriously, am i supposed to take someone serious because they come here looking for things to bash on because they are still butt hurt over the fact that SWTOR is not a SWG style of game?

are you kidding me? how childish is that?

  ktanner3

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2/28/13 4:50:42 PM#112
Originally posted by superniceguy
 

Nope I am not wrong. You did get podracers and paintings but only out of pot luck, and do not get it each and every time. I can open 15, 20 packs over 3 / 4 months and get nothing, then another time open 5 and get 2 things, but just doing that reminded me how much waste of money to actually buy those things. If I did not get the stuff in the free packs then did not bother. Do you get any ftee cartel packs with your monthly subscription to SWTOR?  I don't think so. In STO in the packs you get get a random item but if you are lucky you get a special item. In SWG the only thing you get are cards, so like I say if you are not lucky to get the specail SWG item then you get nothing unless you are into the TCG itself and after the cards.

All of which is irrelevant. As long as players were able to pay money for them that makes them microtransactions. 

Anyway, you know what I am getting at,

 Yes, you're trying to pee on my leg and claim that it is rain. 

 

 and SWG certainly did not have MicrotransactionS

Only in superniceguy world. In the real world, SWG offered virtual cardpacks for real life cash. That is fact.That makes them microtransactions. Period.You can have your own opinions but you can't have your own facts. Sorry. 

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  ignore_me

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2/28/13 5:04:03 PM#113
Originally posted by baphamet

 


Originally posted by ignore_me

 

SWTOR killed SWG and attempted to take its fans. If you can't understand how this would create hatred, I suggest you read Machiavelli.

 


 

uhh no it didn't, it was known far before release that this game would be nothing like SWG.

i blame those SWG fans for getting their hopes up to begin with and not realizing this isnt SWG 2.

seriously, am i supposed to take someone serious because they come here looking for things to bash on because they are still butt hurt over the fact that SWTOR is not a SWG style of game?

are you kidding me? how childish is that?

You are incorrect. The licensing agreement killed SWG in favor of SWTOR. The Star Wars MMO players became instant refugees with only one possible port to sail toward. The other choice was to go to some other game and eat your love of Star Wars.

I imagine you will take it as seriously as I take you being butt hurt over someone not liking your game.

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  superniceguy

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2/28/13 5:10:01 PM#114
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by superniceguy
 

Nope I am not wrong. You did get podracers and paintings but only out of pot luck, and do not get it each and every time. I can open 15, 20 packs over 3 / 4 months and get nothing, then another time open 5 and get 2 things, but just doing that reminded me how much waste of money to actually buy those things. If I did not get the stuff in the free packs then did not bother. Do you get any ftee cartel packs with your monthly subscription to SWTOR?  I don't think so. In STO in the packs you get get a random item but if you are lucky you get a special item. In SWG the only thing you get are cards, so like I say if you are not lucky to get the specail SWG item then you get nothing unless you are into the TCG itself and after the cards.

All of which is irrelevant. As long as players were able to pay money for them that makes them microtransactions. 

Anyway, you know what I am getting at,

 Yes, you're trying to pee on my leg and claim that it is rain. 

 

 and SWG certainly did not have MicrotransactionS

Only in superniceguy world. In the real world, SWG offered virtual cardpacks for real life cash. That is fact.That makes them microtransactions. Period.You can have your own opinions but you can't have your own facts. Sorry. 

It was only one thing that gave a random item from the cards from the TCG, and for a FACT it was for the TCG, and not SWG. SWG never had a cash shop where you go to buy stuff. The transactions were done from the TCG or website, not SWG itself. The reason you think what you do is because you never touched it, and just assumed thats how it worked. If you ignored the TCG program, then you saw no signs of the stuff.

  Vahid

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2/28/13 5:16:06 PM#115
I am still not sure how reading Machiavelli will help me understand this unless maybe that Bioware/EA, in trying to decide between being loved or feared purposefully set out to be hated? Or that since they were already so hated they would set out to make other game developers fear them ?

  baphamet

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2/28/13 5:20:01 PM#116


Originally posted by ignore_me

Originally posted by baphamet  

Originally posted by ignore_me   SWTOR killed SWG and attempted to take its fans. If you can't understand how this would create hatred, I suggest you read Machiavelli.  
  uhh no it didn't, it was known far before release that this game would be nothing like SWG. i blame those SWG fans for getting their hopes up to begin with and not realizing this isnt SWG 2. seriously, am i supposed to take someone serious because they come here looking for things to bash on because they are still butt hurt over the fact that SWTOR is not a SWG style of game? are you kidding me? how childish is that?
You are incorrect. The licensing agreement killed SWG in favor of SWTOR. The Star Wars MMO players became instant refugees with only one possible port to sail toward. The other choice was to go to some other game and eat your love of Star Wars.

I imagine you will take it as seriously as I take you being butt hurt over someone not liking your game.


first of all, i don't currently play this game but i do play it off and on. i don't care if people like or dislike SWTOR, what annoys me is when people that have no intention of ever playing it, are here and have been here for years looking for new things to bash on because BW/EA didn't make the game they wanted, its just so childish and whinny to be perfectly blunt.

secondly, you are making an assumption that SWG lost their licence because SWTOR was trying to steal their players away.

if you are not making that assumption then i definitely am correct.

if i was wrong then they wouldn't have said for over a year before release that this game wouldn't be like SWG.

there were countless threads about it here and you SWG vets and your false sense of entitlement still complained about it as if they lied to you or something.

that is your problem that you are still upset you don't have a game like SWG and are taking it out on another completely different game because they didn't make the game you wanted them to make.

its annoying and childish to say the least.

don't get me wrong, i understand being upset that they went in a different direction and made a different style of MMO when it was announced.

but really, its been well over 2 years since we have known this, its time to move on kids.


  ignore_me

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2/28/13 5:22:34 PM#117
Originally posted by Vahid
I am still not sure how reading Machiavelli will help me understand this unless maybe that Bioware/EA, in trying to decide between being loved or feared purposefully set out to be hated? Or that since they were already so hated they would set out to make other game developers fear them ?

Well there is that. But I was referring to the idea that if you kill your enemy and take his stuff, you should also kill his family too, otherwise they will harbor hatred for you and war against your government for their loss. Would SWG have been left alive, or SWTOR been suitable as compensation, then Bioware would not have caused the hatred.

To be fair, Bioware is more like the evil tax collector set up by the leader, and then executed publicly after the leader's policies have been dealt to the people via that official. But I was mainly referrnig to the fact that the damages were dealt to the victim's sons, who now have a belly full of wrath.

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  ktanner3

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2/28/13 5:24:22 PM#118
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by superniceguy
 

Nope I am not wrong. You did get podracers and paintings but only out of pot luck, and do not get it each and every time. I can open 15, 20 packs over 3 / 4 months and get nothing, then another time open 5 and get 2 things, but just doing that reminded me how much waste of money to actually buy those things. If I did not get the stuff in the free packs then did not bother. Do you get any ftee cartel packs with your monthly subscription to SWTOR?  I don't think so. In STO in the packs you get get a random item but if you are lucky you get a special item. In SWG the only thing you get are cards, so like I say if you are not lucky to get the specail SWG item then you get nothing unless you are into the TCG itself and after the cards.

All of which is irrelevant. As long as players were able to pay money for them that makes them microtransactions. 

Anyway, you know what I am getting at,

 Yes, you're trying to pee on my leg and claim that it is rain. 

 

 and SWG certainly did not have MicrotransactionS

Only in superniceguy world. In the real world, SWG offered virtual cardpacks for real life cash. That is fact.That makes them microtransactions. Period.You can have your own opinions but you can't have your own facts. Sorry. 

It was only one thing that gave a random item from the cards from the TCG, and for a FACT it was for the TCG, and not SWG. SWG never had a cash shop where you go to buy stuff. The transactions were done from the TCG or website, not SWG itself. The reason you think what you do is because you never touched it, and just assumed thats how it worked. If you ignored the TCG program, then you saw no signs of the stuff.

So now SWG and TCG were two completely different things that never crossed over? Funny, since WHEN I CHECKED IT OUT MYSELF the last time I played SWG it was staring me in the face the first time I popped in letting me know about my free cards. Funny too that I could play the card game from within SWG and could aquire items that were used in the SWG world. Just give it up. You're making yourself look silly 

 

 

 

 

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  ignore_me

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2/28/13 5:31:35 PM#119
Originally posted by baphamet

 


Originally posted by ignore_me

Originally posted by baphamet  

Originally posted by ignore_me   SWTOR killed SWG and attempted to take its fans. If you can't understand how this would create hatred, I suggest you read Machiavelli.  
  uhh no it didn't, it was known far before release that this game would be nothing like SWG. i blame those SWG fans for getting their hopes up to begin with and not realizing this isnt SWG 2. seriously, am i supposed to take someone serious because they come here looking for things to bash on because they are still butt hurt over the fact that SWTOR is not a SWG style of game? are you kidding me? how childish is that?
You are incorrect. The licensing agreement killed SWG in favor of SWTOR. The Star Wars MMO players became instant refugees with only one possible port to sail toward. The other choice was to go to some other game and eat your love of Star Wars.

 

I imagine you will take it as seriously as I take you being butt hurt over someone not liking your game.


 

first of all, i don't currently play this game but i do play it off and on. i don't care if people like or dislike SWTOR, what annoys me is when people that have no intention of ever playing it, are here and have been here for years looking for new things to bash on because BW/EA didn't make the game they wanted, its just so childish and whinny to be perfectly blunt.

secondly, you are making an assumption that SWG lost their licence because SWTOR was trying to steal their players away.

if you are not making that assumption then i definitely am correct.

if i was wrong then they wouldn't have said for over a year before release that this game wouldn't be like SWG.

there were countless threads about it here and you SWG vets and your false sense of entitlement still complained about it as if they lied to you or something.

that is your problem that you are still upset you don't have a game like SWG and are taking it out on another completely different game because they didn't make the game you wanted them to make.

its annoying and childish to say the least.

don't get me wrong, i understand being upset that they went in a different direction and made a different style of MMO when it was announced.

but really, its been well over 2 years since we have known this, its time to move on kids.

 

1) I will cede that this is an assumption, but I believe it to be a high probability assumption.

2) It's easy for you to cast stones because you don't care about the issue. Stop wearing glasses, I don't need them so neither should you!

3) Everyone knew it wouldn't be SWG. Everyone knew SWG would close (after it was announced). Nobody knew how terrible SWTOR would be, and would continue to be. Thus it keeps cropping up.

4) I imagine people will move on when they are ready, and not at the behest of someone complaining about being annoyed by posts on a forum.

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  ktanner3

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2/28/13 5:37:36 PM#120
Originally posted by baphamet

 


Originally posted by ignore_me

Originally posted by baphamet  

Originally posted by ignore_me   SWTOR killed SWG and attempted to take its fans. If you can't understand how this would create hatred, I suggest you read Machiavelli.  
  uhh no it didn't, it was known far before release that this game would be nothing like SWG. i blame those SWG fans for getting their hopes up to begin with and not realizing this isnt SWG 2. seriously, am i supposed to take someone serious because they come here looking for things to bash on because they are still butt hurt over the fact that SWTOR is not a SWG style of game? are you kidding me? how childish is that?
You are incorrect. The licensing agreement killed SWG in favor of SWTOR. The Star Wars MMO players became instant refugees with only one possible port to sail toward. The other choice was to go to some other game and eat your love of Star Wars.

 

I imagine you will take it as seriously as I take you being butt hurt over someone not liking your game.


 

first of all, i don't currently play this game but i do play it off and on. i don't care if people like or dislike SWTOR, what annoys me is when people that have no intention of ever playing it, are here and have been here for years looking for new things to bash on because BW/EA didn't make the game they wanted, its just so childish and whinny to be perfectly blunt.

secondly, you are making an assumption that SWG lost their licence because SWTOR was trying to steal their players away.

if you are not making that assumption then i definitely am correct.

if i was wrong then they wouldn't have said for over a year before release that this game wouldn't be like SWG.

there were countless threads about it here and you SWG vets and your false sense of entitlement still complained about it as if they lied to you or something.

that is your problem that you are still upset you don't have a game like SWG and are taking it out on another completely different game because they didn't make the game you wanted them to make.

its annoying and childish to say the least.

don't get me wrong, i understand being upset that they went in a different direction and made a different style of MMO when it was announced.

but really, its been well over 2 years since we have known this, its time to move on kids.

 

I hope they never stop. It's amusing to see all this drama over a video game. 

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