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Star Wars: The Old Republic Forum » General Discussion » Forum rules update - [mod edit]

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  toddze

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Joined: 8/02/08
Posts: 2197

I am not a hater, I call it like I see it.

2/26/13 12:13:13 AM#21
Originally posted by erictlewis

EA is heavy handed on their forums, this has been the case for year.  They even blacklisted some folks.  They don't like negative post of any type. 

It is really to bad as some of those post if they were listened to could have made some of their games better.   

That is why I don't post on the official ea forums they don't like anybody who says anything negative. 

 

So the truth hurts them, but yet all they do is sweap it under the rug.

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  tiefighter25

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2/26/13 1:29:20 AM#22

Well if it makes anyone feel better, JovethGonzalez, the community manager, and guy qho runs the forums, was just canned.

I meant, he decided to pursue other undisclosed oppurtunities, and his old posts are being deleted.

  timtrack

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2/26/13 1:39:08 AM#23

Looks like a perfectly valid set of rules to me. Are you bashing?

  ignore_me

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2/26/13 2:22:50 AM#24
Bioware doesn't read those forums.

Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011

  Isawa

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Posts: 1066

2/26/13 2:33:38 AM#25
"Forum rules update - Can't bash SWTOR or your history" I thought this was going to be about how they release your history to everyone, if you bash the game. However, it is a completely lame thread that should have said "you're history". Could of been so much more entertaining :D
  ignore_me

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2/26/13 2:41:26 AM#26
Originally posted by Eluldor
"Forum rules update - Can't bash SWTOR or your history" I thought this was going to be about how they release your history to everyone, if you bash the game. However, it is a completely lame thread that should have said "you're history". Could of been so much more entertaining :D

Wow, did you really think that? That they would take the time to do that when they don't respond to anything on the forums except to moderate rules? lol.

/continue thread

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  Vindicar

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Dun Mock meh engliesh !

2/26/13 2:47:20 AM#27

If they REALLY stick to those rules. I mean litteraly. Then it's cool.

 

But those rules are also pretty close to allowing pure censoring.

 

thin line.

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Actually Known as "Wundicar" in Age of Wushu (US)

  Isawa

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2/26/13 2:51:14 AM#28
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by Eluldor
"Forum rules update - Can't bash SWTOR or your history" I thought this was going to be about how they release your history to everyone, if you bash the game. However, it is a completely lame thread that should have said "you're history". Could of been so much more entertaining :D

Wow, did you really think that? That they would take the time to do that when they don't respond to anything on the forums except to moderate rules? lol.

/continue thread

Hey! Going that route would have brought back all sorts of attention to this game :)

  ignore_me

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2/26/13 2:52:11 AM#29
From their standpoint they are trying to promote a game that is weak, and will continue to be that way. I don't think I would want people using those forums to tell the truth either if I were Bioware. The people still playing that game don't care about the features they don't have or they wouldn't be on SWTOR still. Bioware cares even less about those features so it makes sense to me that they just crank up the filter to remove reality from the forums.

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  Laromuss

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2/26/13 2:57:20 AM#30
Originally posted by ignore_me
From their standpoint they are trying to promote a game that is weak, and will continue to be that way. I don't think I would want people using those forums to tell the truth either if I were Bioware. The people still playing that game don't care about the features they don't have or they wouldn't be on SWTOR still. Bioware cares even less about those features so it makes sense to me that they just crank up the filter to remove reality from the forums.

At this rate they should just close the forums, whats the point of having forums if player's can't even express their opinions?  Especially if they're (Bioware/Ea) the ones who deem what is constructive or not, its a bit on the biased side on very subjective topics.   

  tiefighter25

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2/26/13 3:03:36 AM#31
Originally posted by Laross
Originally posted by ignore_me
From their standpoint they are trying to promote a game that is weak, and will continue to be that way. I don't think I would want people using those forums to tell the truth either if I were Bioware. The people still playing that game don't care about the features they don't have or they wouldn't be on SWTOR still. Bioware cares even less about those features so it makes sense to me that they just crank up the filter to remove reality from the forums.

At this rate they should just close the forums, whats the point of having forums if player's can't even express their opinions?  Especially if they're (Bioware/Ea) the ones who deem what is constructive or not, its a bit on the biased side on very subjective topics.   

To be honest, the forums are pretty much dead. The front page barely changes for days on end. My guess is that as the subscriber population dwindles, the effect becomes exponential, since the remaining smaller number of subscribers is easier to police and "Moderate".

Just for tits and giggles, I'll say again, the latest (3rd) I think senior community manager, who controls the forum, just parted ways with Bioware.

  william0532

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2/26/13 3:09:40 AM#32

Even though I think the game is garbage(and quit when my free time was up) I think those rules are awesome. I wish every game forum had them.

1. Long list of gripes with few specific details and little useful feedback-

Good rule, I hate "this game is going to fail because it sucks"-that helps. Plus people make their stupid list of the million things wrong with the game, and they are usually stupid as hell. There was a thread on swtor before the game came out about how the game would fail if there wasn't swimming...

2. Threads that bash the game-

No brainer. Why would a "buisness" want something on the site where they are essentially advertising their game like "This game sucks, guild wars 2 is so much better". I agree lol, but I'd be annoyed if  GW2 threads, if there were "GW2 sucks, SWTOR is better". It's a pointless thread. Do people in real life go to tennis courts to tell tennis players that tennis is weak, that they are a bunch of pansy's and they should have played football.

3. Threads about quitting the game-

Thank god. I quit threads are like reading a suicide notes. So dramatic. The worst part, two months later, that "Woe is me, I'm gone forever" drama filled turd is back and commenting about fixing something, or why he doesn't like something. You said you where gone, than be gone, for good. Plus, these pricks, never ever, give away their stuff. The first post in every one of these threads is "can I have your stuff" and they never give it up. Greedy aholes.

4. Call out's towards specific developers-

Cmon, this is a no brainer. There were "I'm glad Erickson or x bioware developer got fired" threads. That's just f'd up. It's funny too, cause D Erickson hated everything I love about star wars games(space combat), and loved everything I hate about games(stupid voice over), and still, I'm not screaming "I'm glad you got fired" That's just little kid crap right there(don't get me wrong, I'm glad when developers that I disagree with get replaced sometimes, but I never celebrate publically.

5. Haters vs Fanboys

wouldn't everyone be happier if these people weren't around sometimes lol

 

The funniest thing about this, I just went back to swtor.com and it really doesn't look like any of these are being enforced. It must be for extremely radical or incindiary threads. Oh, and I can't post there because I'm not a subscriber(that's a little cheap, but makes sense I suppose, probably helps with these rules, not allowing people who don't play to post)

 

  tiefighter25

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2/26/13 3:48:42 AM#33
If you change the context, what you're supporting is essentially fascism. Not that that is all bad. Better uniforms.
  User Deleted
2/26/13 3:55:49 AM#34
Originally posted by Ppiper
their forums, their rules. Simple solution, don't visit there.

Yep, SoE does exactly the same thing, its why EQ2Flames was created. If you want unbiased discussion about a game you will need to go to a 3rd party forum.

Pretty much all you will get away with calling out on official forums is bugs / glitches.

  tom_gore

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2/26/13 4:01:26 AM#35
I'll give until the end of 2013 before EA pulls the plug on the servers.
  tiefighter25

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2/26/13 4:10:02 AM#36
Originally posted by WhiteLantern
Originally posted by tiefighter25
If you change the context, what you're supporting is essentially fascism. Not that that is all bad. Better uniforms.

[mod edit]

Although what you say has merit, it is intresting to note certain trends in society wherever they might crop up.

Perhaps this is why I find SWTOR fascinating, perhaps overly so. It is represenative of many trends in both MMOs, the gaming industry in general, and the corporte world as a whole.

The political analogy was just for expediency. I'm not so much obsessed as a tad unhealthly attentive.

That said, I won't lose sleep or wind up in the Bell Tower if ToR either becomes a hit or shuts down.

it's more akin to following a sports franchise; a lot of sound and fury but just a fun pasttime at the end of the day and this is a great place to discuss these topics with other interested people, pro and con.

A little civility rarely hurts anything though.

  Popple

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2/26/13 4:47:34 AM#37
I say people are lucky they even have a forum..Who knows maybe in the near future all there be is a wiki and support page and MMORPG Forum..

I retired retroactively..Haha

  Kyleran

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2/26/13 5:22:13 AM#38
Originally posted by Vorthanion
Originally posted by Gravarg

I can't blame them.  If I ran the forums, I'd do the same.  Going on forums and just with a  simple post of  "This game sucks, stay away, nothing works right!"  doesn't do anything.  Unless you're going to get specific in what you don't like, and offer a solution, keep it to yourself...  I've posted many times on this site, not liking something about a game, or a game as a whole, but I almost always post with it what I would've liked to see them do or have done.

 

Edit: It's not against the rules to suggest something to be changed, just only if you're going to "bash" it.

Why is it the poster's responsibility to put forth a solution to any specific problems they bring forth?  Are they getting paid for it?  Whose job is it and how do they find out about these issues?  Customer complaints has been the very foundation of how businesses improve themselves or they lose business or even worse, go out of business.  Why should it be any different with gaming?  Why are so many gamers so quick to defend companies that are either lazy or put forth sub-standard products?  I truly don't understand it and I certainly don't subscribe to it either.

Er, you are talking about EA, one of the most hated names in the gaming industry, yet, somehow they remain profitable and a dominate force.  Maybe they don't see the rules the same way you do, as long as people keep buying their titles, what do they care what the "lunatic fringe" thinks about them?

People here aren't defending them for being lazy or having substandard products, they are defending the companies right to run the forums they pay for their way, and moderate anything they feel like.

Come to a more public forum like this one if you want some extra freedom, but even here you won't find unrestricted access.

Arrogant, Condescending, Dismissive, Elitist, you speak as if these are bad things?
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  WhiteLantern

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2/26/13 6:04:26 AM#39
Originally posted by tiefighter25
Originally posted by WhiteLantern
Originally posted by tiefighter25
If you change the context, what you're supporting is essentially fascism. Not that that is all bad. Better uniforms.

Fascism in government = bad

Fascism on a private company's forum = who cares

 

I've been modded for it before, but I'll say it again. Karteli's crusade against TOR has hit the bottom of the barrel. Let it go, dude. This obsession is not healthy.

Although what you say has merit, it is intresting to note certain trends in society wherever they might crop up.

Perhaps this is why I find SWTOR fascinating, perhaps overly so. It is represenative of many trends in both MMOs, the gaming industry in general, and the corporte world as a whole.

The political analogy was just for expediency. I'm not so much obsessed as a tad unhealthly attentive.

That said, I won't lose sleep or wind up in the Bell Tower if ToR either becomes a hit or shuts down.

it's more akin to following a sports franchise; a lot of sound and fury but just a fun pasttime at the end of the day and this is a great place to discuss these topics with other interested people, pro and con.

A little civility rarely hurts anything though.

Apologies, the second part was aimed sqarely at the OP, not you. I couldn't be bothered to make it a separate post.

I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  Doogiehowser

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2/26/13 6:52:58 AM#40
EA still can't beat the way Anet police their forums. I feel more comfortable on SWTOR forums than GW2.

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