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Star Wars: The Old Republic Forum » General Discussion » Can TOR's 3D space bring you back?

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  william0532

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OP  10/05/12 10:20:02 PM#1

Now before you list everything wrong with TOR, or say everything is fine as it is, my question is too people like me who quit cause they disliked alot of its current features. I complain about alot of TOR's features, so please don't cite everything wrong with the game lol, cause I've probably already posted it:)

 

Pre launch, bioware had a poll "what would you prefer in a space experience" where rail shooter and turret shooter where tied for worst on the poll, and JTL(Jump to Light Speed, the swg space game) and 3D space with capital ship boarding finished at the top.

 

Since then, little snippet's here and there have suggested that they have been working on a super secret space project, and they have said it's not the current system or an addition to the current system.(In fact they have plainly stated a massive space project has been in the works, since the poll's realizations came to light)

 

So the question is, if TOR launches a very cool space game, 3D like JTL, or BF2, would you try it out? I for one would, but I'm curious if it could be a game changer for TOR. I played JTL in SWG for about six months without playing any landbased gameplay, simply because I got addicted fast.

 

I'm always told "space is a dumb niche" and maybe people are right, but I like it, I'm just curious if others do? I would sub for a couple month's if its as revolutionary as Bioware is claiming, would you?

  Aerowyn

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10/05/12 10:22:54 PM#2
i'd actually consider it... i really enjoyed JTLS

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  william0532

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OP  10/05/12 10:39:22 PM#3
Originally posted by Aerowyn
i'd actually consider it... i really enjoyed JTLS

I actually got hooked up with a guild that only played the space portion of SWG. I thought it was neat that a game had another main game attached to it.

 

I honestly would willingly pay a sub to try it!

  NagilumSadow

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10/05/12 10:40:19 PM#4

At this point, the only thing that would bring me back would be something to the effect of the following quote:

 

"Star Wars the Old Republic, the game that you know, was an (not so?) elaborate hoax -- it was developed for reasons of secrecy. The actual Star Wars the Old Republic will be released in the first quarter of 2013"


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  FrodoFragins

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10/05/12 10:41:04 PM#5

If they implemented epic XWing vs. Tie Fighter style space combat missions I would.

 

I may return when they go F2P to level alts.  Anything short of incredible 3D space combat will not be enough for me to pay a sub.

  DeaconX

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10/05/12 10:48:26 PM#6
It'd be a step in the right direction...


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  william0532

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OP  10/05/12 10:59:26 PM#7
Originally posted by DeaconX
It'd be a step in the right direction...

I often wonder why any Sci Fi mmo would even consider launching without some sort of fleshed out space game. I'm so hard up for a good space game sci fi mmo, hell I even track Chris Roberts for hope of something in space(he did wing commander, and freelancer)

  Aerowyn

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10/05/12 11:07:35 PM#8
still boggles the mind nothing like an updated x-wing vs tie fighter wasn't planned for the release of swtor way back when.. people loved that game and it would of brought in a ton of people... gah...

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  koboldfodder

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10/05/12 11:10:18 PM#9

SWG's space system was the best, but not because of the actual gameplay.  The actual combat mechanics and mission system was good but not great.

 

What made it great was the loot system.  10 levels of loot, and you could reverse engineer and combine your loot to make even better loot, so you had these little pet projects you were working on for years.  That loot system, combined with the crafting system made for a lot of fun in space.  In fact, a lot of people played the space part of the game the majority of the time.

 

Bioware should have just copy and pasted SWG's loot system into their ground game.  That would instantly make the game worth playing.

  crazytwan

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10/05/12 11:18:51 PM#10

I would definately resub just to try it, I loved JTLS. Space sims are my niche, too.

 

  CujoSWAoA

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10/05/12 11:21:21 PM#11

Not even Jump to LIghtspped could hold a candle to the greatness of X-Wing / TIE Fighter / XvT and X-Wing Aliance.

JTL was a hollow shell compared to those games and what TOR has? is an insult to all of them.

I don't really care if TOR adds space combat to its game or not.  There's no spaceships in the game from the Star Wars movies so it'd just be a generic space shooter. Like Black Prophecy.  Didn't play that either.

  william0532

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OP  10/05/12 11:23:00 PM#12
Originally posted by koboldfodder

SWG's space system was the best, but not because of the actual gameplay.  The actual combat mechanics and mission system was good but not great.

 

What made it great was the loot system.  10 levels of loot, and you could reverse engineer and combine your loot to make even better loot, so you had these little pet projects you were working on for years.  That loot system, combined with the crafting system made for a lot of fun in space.  In fact, a lot of people played the space part of the game the majority of the time.

 

Bioware should have just copy and pasted SWG's loot system into their ground game.  That would instantly make the game worth playing.

I made a ton of credits selling space loot lol. Crafters used to pay top dollar for bags full of space parts, of course than I had to pay all of it back to them for an upgrade lol. Circle of life and all that.

  william0532

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OP  10/05/12 11:25:26 PM#13
Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

Not even Jump to LIghtspped could hold a candle to the greatness of X-Wing / TIE Fighter / XvT and X-Wing Aliance.

JTL was a hollow shell compared to those games and what TOR has? is an insult to all of them.

I don't really care if TOR adds space combat to its game or not.  There's no spaceships in the game from the Star Wars movies so it'd just be a generic space shooter. Like Black Prophecy.  Didn't play that either.

Gameplay wise, I can kind of agree, but in customization JTL was amazing. I had a damn fleet practically lol. Spent alot of time trying to cut weight down on my ships. That was a great system as far as complexity, crafting options, and competition. Granted I do wish alot would have been added to the gameplay side.

  CujoSWAoA

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10/05/12 11:39:57 PM#14
Originally posted by william0532
Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

Not even Jump to LIghtspped could hold a candle to the greatness of X-Wing / TIE Fighter / XvT and X-Wing Aliance.

JTL was a hollow shell compared to those games and what TOR has? is an insult to all of them.

I don't really care if TOR adds space combat to its game or not.  There's no spaceships in the game from the Star Wars movies so it'd just be a generic space shooter. Like Black Prophecy.  Didn't play that either.

Gameplay wise, I can kind of agree, but in customization JTL was amazing. I had a damn fleet practically lol. Spent alot of time trying to cut weight down on my ships. That was a great system as far as complexity, crafting options, and competition. Granted I do wish alot would have been added to the gameplay side.

I won't refute any of that.

But it wasn't very.... Star Warsy.  Meaning that it allowed you to own damn near every ship and just carry them around in your pocket.  It was too... gamey.

The X-Wing games were waaaay more immresive into their respective militaries.

  ignore_me

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10/06/12 1:15:35 AM#15
Originally posted by NagilumSadow

At this point, the only thing that would bring me back would be something to the effect of the following quote:

 

"Star Wars the Old Republic, the game that you know, was an (not so?) elaborate hoax -- it was developed for reasons of secrecy. The actual Star Wars the Old Republic will be released in the first quarter of 2013"

The thing that is crazy about this is that the game is so bad that the "elaborate hoax" thing would be believable. The existing explanation (collaborative corporate stupidity and hubris) stands, but your imaginative quote is awesome.

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  Cochran1

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10/06/12 1:20:13 AM#16
Originally posted by william0532
Originally posted by Aerowyn
i'd actually consider it... i really enjoyed JTLS

I actually got hooked up with a guild that only played the space portion of SWG. I thought it was neat that a game had another main game attached to it.

 

I honestly would willingly pay a sub to try it!

My piioting lvl was higher than my character lvl in SWG I enjoyed it quite q bit. Sadly I don't think SWTOR's space combat will be anywhere near as enjoyable consider the first of it was nothing but a rail shooter.

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  ReaperUk

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10/06/12 1:30:14 AM#17
A real space sim like JTL is about the only thing that would tempt me back. I've said in the past that since SWG closed just as SWTOR launched, they should have just bought the JTL code off SOE and tacked it on to the core game the same way it was done in SWG. I reckon that ought to be easier and cheaper than designing a space game from scratch.
  tiefighter25

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10/06/12 1:34:06 AM#18

To be honest, the only reasonable, and if I were a long shot betting man, valid SWTOR secret space project would be buying and retooling "Black Prophecy". http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/09/25/black-prophecy-says-good-bye-today-with-parties/

 

Come to think of it, I heaby offically predict that EA is in the process of buying Reakktor Media outright.

A retooled Black Prophecy will be the basis of the new SWTOR space combat. (No atmospheric flight, so none of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g97RVEp1t6Q&noredirect=1)

I will be correct and you will all have to call me Swami and hope I use my incredible predictive powers for good.

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  elvenwolf

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10/06/12 1:36:32 AM#19

Something like JTL would bring me back, is somehting i loved.

 

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  tiefighter25

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10/06/12 1:49:14 AM#20
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