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Originally posted by William12

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Originally posted by DeaconX

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Originally posted by zymurgeist

It's a themepark. It will cater to people who like themeparks. They're not going to change the game's focus to suit you.

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Precisely, which is why I am not a paying customer nor am I a fan of their design philosophies for what makes for a great STAR WARS mmorpg.  But to all those enjoying the game - have at it :)

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well when you invest 200 + mil into a MMO you can make it however you want sir the investors want it.

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Fixed. The stakeholders are calling the shots, and they want money. WoW is the cash cow in the industry, and they want a piece of that pie so they try to replicate it. It's not much different than what MMOs have been doing for the past several years, and also why so many 'modern' MMOs have been struggling with player retention.

Bioware looks to be falling into the same trap. This game was sold to many people as being 'innovative' because of the story. It looks like it's simply dissolving into the same old daily/dungeon grinding that was in WoW, and then Rift.

That's not to say such a system is fundamentally flawed. Consider however, that many gamers who went to SWTOR, did so because they've grown tired of the same old grinding that exists in prior MMOs. If they were content with such systems, they probably wouldn't have left their old MMOs for SWTOR. Therefore SWTOR embracing such systems will likely leave a bitter taste in the mouths of the very gamers it lured to itself with promises of 'innovative' gameplay.

Can Bioware turn it around and keep things fresh and interesting? Maybe, but they need to pump out more quality story content like crazy. Otherwise the endgame will be just the same as WoW's... grinding dailies, dungeons, and raids. Which I'm sure a growing number of gamers are getting tired of doing.

Those are one line synopsis of the basis story arcs they are working on. They would have been working on this content many month prior to release. It does not include on the fly changes and the massive additional content, mechanic and balancing changes that are included in the state of the game type posts.

 

All the leaks prove is that people love to hate on the smallest scrap of information given to them and make sweaping, global overgeneralizations.

 

I am a huge fan of picking apart actual content and mechanics over mature debate but these forums are simply a tantrum throwing soap box for people who think a video game is the crest of social conscience.

 

What developer pissed in your cornflakes when you were children?

Originally posted by zymurgeist

It's a themepark. It will cater to people who like themeparks. They're not going to change the game's focus to suit you.

Dailies are not really a themepark must, far from it and they adds nothing good to the game.

Adding more raids is probably the right thing to do, but they really should put more work into PvP and space combat and less work into adding daily grinding. Themepark or no themepark, gameplay is what wins the day and putting work on making it better makes more sense.

Originally posted by Creslin321

I'm not going to use the "C" word to avoid offending people with sensitive dispositions.  But SWTOR is very much like a well known Blizzard MMORPG.

You really shouldn't be surprised that they are copying them post-release just like they copied them pre-release.

 

Yeah, but it's not Blizzard. And yes, I will be surprised if all I see along the line is Bioware showering people with instances only for content. Maybe I'm not pessimistic enough for this site and the genre.

actually recently Bio devs have discussed both a form of open world quests Al'la War public quests,

and a revamp of the space game . both of which you were talking about in your OP if I read right.

and no I am too lazy to give a link, but I am sure it was talked about in interviews.

End game content patches are usually done between the xpacs, or release and expac. Expacs will deliver what the OP wants; new plantes, races, class quests, planet quests etc. Inbetween you get dailies, raids, dungeons. Just the way it is.

I was actually pretty stoked upon reading those updates. Looking forward to them myself and gives me renewed hope that BW does plan on adding additioanl content on a fairly regular basis.

Originally posted by Tamanous

Those are one line synopsis of the basis story arcs they are working on. They would have been working on this content many month prior to release. It does not include on the fly changes and the massive additional content, mechanic and balancing changes that are included in the state of the game type posts.

 

All the leaks prove is that people love to hate on the smallest scrap of information given to them and make sweaping, global overgeneralizations.

 

I am a huge fan of picking apart actual content and mechanics over mature debate but these forums are simply a tantrum throwing soap box for people who think a video game is the crest of social conscience.

 

What developer pissed in your cornflakes when you were children?

 

I'm not hating on anything. I didnt state that "this is all we are going to get" I was merely voicing my concern because in those leaks there's no other scraps of information other than instances and dailies, I also clearly stated that this is not official information coated with "if, and only if". I was also asking if anyone knows better, it's not some doomsayer post like you seem to read it as.

 

That last line was really uncalled for, I wasnt being angry or anything like that when posting this. Anyway, thank you for your input, and I cant really blame you for taking this as somekind of hate post considering the circumstances on the forums here.

Originally posted by wolvie3131

actually recently Bio devs have discussed both a form of open world quests Al'la War public quests,

and a revamp of the space game . both of which you were talking about in your OP if I read right.

and no I am too lazy to give a link, but I am sure it was talked about in interviews.

 

This is something I'm happy to hear, even with no links. Maybe they'll be in the mmorpg.com headlines soon :P

Originally posted by Kuinn

Originally posted by wolvie3131

actually recently Bio devs have discussed both a form of open world quests Al'la War public quests,

and a revamp of the space game . both of which you were talking about in your OP if I read right.

and no I am too lazy to give a link, but I am sure it was talked about in interviews.

 

This is something I'm happy to hear, even with no links. Maybe they'll be in the mmorpg.com headlines soon :P

here is a quck link I found in with looking in under 2 seconds http://local.r2-db.com/article-rss/23664/guild-banks-public-quests-and-other-future-updates   just a quck blip about the public quests but there it is.

Originally posted by wolvie3131

Originally posted by Kuinn

Originally posted by wolvie3131

actually recently Bio devs have discussed both a form of open world quests Al'la War public quests,

and a revamp of the space game . both of which you were talking about in your OP if I read right.

and no I am too lazy to give a link, but I am sure it was talked about in interviews.

 

This is something I'm happy to hear, even with no links. Maybe they'll be in the mmorpg.com headlines soon :P

here is a quck link I found in with looking in under 2 seconds http://local.r2-db.com/article-rss/23664/guild-banks-public-quests-and-other-future-updates   just a quck blip about the public quests but there it is.

 

Thanks, that's really nice to hear, I didnt even know "public quests" were actually coming to TOR, I've used mostly my computer time in actually playing the game so I miss half the news.

Originally posted by Kuinn

Originally posted by wolvie3131

Originally posted by Kuinn

Originally posted by wolvie3131

actually recently Bio devs have discussed both a form of open world quests Al'la War public quests,

and a revamp of the space game . both of which you were talking about in your OP if I read right.

and no I am too lazy to give a link, but I am sure it was talked about in interviews.

 

This is something I'm happy to hear, even with no links. Maybe they'll be in the mmorpg.com headlines soon :P

here is a quck link I found in with looking in under 2 seconds http://local.r2-db.com/article-rss/23664/guild-banks-public-quests-and-other-future-updates   just a quck blip about the public quests but there it is.

 

Thanks, that's really nice to hear, I didnt even know "public quests" were actually coming to TOR, I've used mostly my computer time in actually playing the game so I miss half the news.

yeah it's easy to miss the  news on the game, when all we see here is this game is teh fail posts day in and day out.

gotta be quick to catch the real news ;)