Originally posted by tank017
I think the answer is obvious.Yes, a lot of people fell for the hype in which the media created.

More fool them lmfao. And now the same over the top fanboys are eating humble pie when they were told by many people who played the beta for months what this game was all about.

On top of that,everyone had a chance to play the beta weekends,if you still bought the game after that then you really are not a good judge of MMOs.

The name of the dev company and sites like we are on now really sold ya a good line and many fell for it.We now have the same going on with Kingdom Of Amular,i wonder how many will fall for that to.

EA certanly want their moneys worth.

    The "media" didn't sell me on anything.  I looked at the videos, both official and beta leaks.  I talked to people that tested the game AND tried it at conventions, then I tried it during two of the beta weekends.  To date I am still having fun and glad I preordered.  I think a big part of that though was that, though I was excited for the game, I maintained REALISTIC expectations.  So many people did not, especially the "haters".  Actually, probably the haters most of all.  I find it amazing that so many people are still spreading outright lies about what the game is in an attempt to prove themselves right.  Now either they are lying about playing the game or lying about their experience, not sure which, but I can draw some pretty good conclussions based on the fabrications I see on this site.

Nah. I have myself to blame for hoping SWTOR was something it was not. Too bad most of my gripes are endgame related though, and didn't surface for the big majority of testers.

Originally posted by strangepower

No, I can think for myself.

Yeah, pretty much "this".

I bought it because I like Bioware's games. And the game plays exactly how I expected it to.

I suppose the lesson here is to stop being so easily led by hype. This goes for those that bought it as well as those that haven't. Anyone who is dissappointed that the game turned out to be other than what they thought it would (should) be: Do you go to your cupboard for a can of beans and are surprised when you find beans inside?

There are no miracle patches, gameplay during beta won't change a great deal at launch, no one ever holds back "secret content" for launch and most gamers don't care about the Pre-CU.

It's an imperfect world.

Originally posted by dubyahite
@sylvarii

Not eating any humble pie here. I played beta for 6 months.

Like I posted earlier, that's what sold me on the game, not some media sites.


I guess there are a couple million people out there that "are not a good judge of MMOs"


All of your insults aside, I judge an mmo (or any game) based on one factor, how much fun it is for me.

I don't judge them based on some arbitrary standard that you think is the right and only measure of a good game.

Your way is not the only way. It Is quite arrogant to think that your opinions are the only way to view the world.

You have an opinion. I don't share it. Your opinion is not any more right or wrong than mine or anyone else.



 

Don't get on the defensive lol,who said my opinion is the only opinion?

You have your opinion i  have mine.

I judge an MMO or any game on how much fun it is,but many judge it on media hype or forum hype. The amount of people who never even played the beta weekends or beta but swore that the game was great far outweights people like me or you.

I played two beta weekends and that was enough to tell me what swtor was all about,perhaps that comes from years of playing MMOs.

The same can be said for GW2 but in my case i have played the game twice in the last two years.The last time was at GamesCom over a two day period,thoes 7+ hours was enough to convince me to get the game.

I was a fan of SWTOR but as time went on and i actually listened to some of the dumb comments that BioWare was spouting, i knew that it was not going to be for me but i gave it a chance in any case.

Did anyone look at the poll results and read the comments? lol

Seems like most people said that the media didn't influence them to buy the game. And lots of people are saying they played the hell out of the beta and it convinced them to buy the game. I know I'm glad I bought the game. There's no other MMO out that I could stand playing right now besides SWTOR lmao.

Aion, WoW, DCU, CO, LotRO, EQ2, Eve, Rift, AoC...

The voiceovers, cut scenes, space minigame, star wars theme, it gives the world a sense of activity that the other MMOs don't have. Maybe it's just me but NPCs are a critical part of making a MMORPG universe feel alive, eventhough the game needs players too. If the NPCs are just voiceless placeholders for a quest then the world feels sorta flat.

The hype in this forum finally got to me and i preordered. 2h in beta were enough to make me cancel the preorder. Media had an indirect influence through people in the forum.

Originally posted by Loke666

Not really no. I usually spend my time reading about the features of a game and use that to decide if I will buy it or not.

Media coverage rarely tells me if I want to play a game or not, I like reading up on games and then decide by myself.

I'm pretty sure this is precisely the OP's point.  "Reading up on the game" = media coverage.  If you read any info written and shared by someone else via a video or an article over the internet, you are likely subject to someone else's impressions.  It's not possible to decide by yourself.  You know nothing by yourself until you play the game for yourself.  

It's not a bad thing.  It's pretty much the only way to learn anything about games.  But we all influence each other's impressions with every article exchanged, every video linked, and every forum post or comment in the comments section.  

If this poll now shows anything, it's peoples' desire to outwardly project their independence from the nasty, evil media's influence.  Moreover, players seem to sometimes authentically believe this about themselves.  

Nope. I didn't buy the hype, been there, done that.

Nope, I bought the game because it looked like it had the potential to be a very fun game based on youtube videos, friends playing Beta and reading up on game concepts. Media influences really never focus on the pre-order crowd anyways...

Nope.

Nah.  I pay almost no mind to popular media, even if it's video games.  Don't care for marketing in general, of course I understand it's a necessary evil. 

I bought the game because for one it is Star Wars, and two I had watched development of the game since 2008, was nice to finally own it.  Also, I have enjoyed most Bioware games immensely, saw no reason this one would be different. 

For some reason, the media and MMOs have a strange relationship. Looking at the critical reviews for SWTOR, one would assume that it could be anything but excellent. You may or may not agree with me, but this (for me) is not the case. Im not quite sure if thats a reflection of reviewers been in companies pockets or that the yardstick to which MMOs are judged is somehow tainted.

I tend to think MMOs are judged squarely as a comparison to other existing MMOs. The problem is that many would agree the genre has been stuttering generally for some time, and as such is a poor reference point.

All things considered however, blaming 'the media' for purchasing the game, is nonsensical, and a little childish. It is also selling oneself short and points to an individuals own lack of critical reasoning.

I've been playing computer games for a long time. I've used various resources to assess games pre-release, magazines, videos, demos, word of mouth, etc. And nine times out of ten, I dont get games I dont enjoy, or dont think are good, because I know what I like. I dont find it particularly hard to predict which games are good, or will be enjoyable to me.  I would suggest that a lot of people do not think clearly about what they want from a game. 

Swtor was always going to be the game it is. Sure there might be individual gripes here and there, or expectations of better pvp, or more complex crafting etc etc, but by and large, for me, it was always going to be a somewhat lacklustre and unispired themepark with shiny voiceovers. Which is fine, if this is what you wanted.

What I dont get is the people who bought the game, what did you expect? What on earth were you hearing or reading or watching that could of convinced you it would be anything but...

nope. i knew TOR would be a stop gap for me and nothing else. just something to kill some time on. now that Gotham City Imposters is out and TERA beta is around the corner... buh bye TOR.

No, and I would not trust just only the media.

Bioware, the company itself was probably the point I did decide to buy the game to give it a try. I did like the Kotor series 1+2.

I never thought they would produce such a crap called swtor.

No, the setting did. I'd have tried a Star Wars MMO if it were made by any company, even the crappy F2P ones.

Who is 'the media'?

I knew a couple people in beta and they enjoyed the game a lot. I got into the beta and enjoyed the game. Mostly it was the story. Since the game launched, I know a few more people who got the game and they are enjoying it as well.