Originally posted by udon

Originally posted by ZizouX

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Official market watch and financial reports by EA are lies.... This game is dying and everyone knows it.  All you need to read is the xfire numbers.  I get my info from xfire.. not these "official" market reports.   

 

The writer of the article is obviously on the take.....and if anyong doesn't think so, you're naive to say the least.

These are legally binding SEC fillings.  If they lie people can/will go to jail for it.

  I think the OP was being just a little facetious in his post - since the propensity for many here is to jump to their own conclusion and declare that they are obviously right - no matter what evidence is presented.  I usually try to add at least one 'smiley' or 'wink' when posting like that.  Most here don't seem to get it :D!

So? Still doesnt negate the fact that the game is a shallow, linear, pseudo-WoWclone COORPG

How many people watch Survivor or American Idol?

The shows are still crap no matter how many watch it.

Originally posted by leojreimroc

Originally posted by udon

Originally posted by ZizouX

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Official market watch and financial reports by EA are lies.... This game is dying and everyone knows it.  All you need to read is the xfire numbers.  I get my info from xfire.. not these "official" market reports.   

 

The writer of the article is obviously on the take.....and if anyong doesn't think so, you're naive to say the least.

These are legally binding SEC fillings.  If they lie people can/will go to jail for it.

Originally posted by Anolev

Originally posted by ZizouX

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Official market watch and financial reports by EA are lies.... This game is dying and everyone knows it.  All you need to read is the xfire numbers.  I get my info from xfire.. not these "official" market reports.   

 

The write of the article is obviously on the take.....and if anyong doesn't think so, you're naive to say the least.

I sincerely hope you're joking.

This isn't some marketing ploy or a press release.  This is a public earnings statement being made to the investors, has been through auditors, and is reviewed by the SEC.  These numbers are real.

Also, to the person who said the numbers for SW:TOR were through the end of December, no, re-read the article... it says those numbers are through "a little over one month"... meaning since the game launched at the end of December, those numbers are reflective of their subs at the end of January (i.e. yesterday).

 

Both of you fail at sarcasm....I mean common, ZizouX's post was so obvious.

THANK YOU!!!!

Internet sarcasm is hard.

Well at least there is now a statement from EA which is something I was hoping to see.

I'll admit that if 1.7 million of just over 2 million sales subbed for the first "actual pay to play month".. I am pretty suprised.

Its good for the MMO market... investors aren't overly encouraged to continue investing if games fall flat.

Not really happy with the game but good for EA and their employees.

*edit* grammar thing.

Originally posted by Anolev

Originally posted by leojreimroc

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Both of you fail at sarcasm....I mean common, ZizouX's post was so obvious.

Normally I'd agree with you, but given all of the hate I read about this game on MMORPG.com, sometimes I have to assume that it's not sarcasm, but in fact just pure hatred and lack of common sense!

I guess, but when someone says that he only gets his numbers from Xfire, it's a dead giveaway.

Originally posted by Creslin321

Originally posted by Anolev

Originally posted by fony

this is Q4 2011 AKA the initial rush. this is not how many people are subscribed right now.

Seriously, it's only a click away... READ people...

-- Star Wars(R): The Old Republic(TM) has generated 1.7 million active subscribers and sold through more than 2 million units in a little over one month.

... the number they're quoting is current... a little over a month from the launch date is basically yesterday...

Generated does not mean retained.  I could "generate" 5 million subscribers over 3 years, but only have 200 active subscribers currently.

The report is worded very ambiguously.  First they say it's for Q4 2011 (Dec. 31st), then they mention the "a little over one month" figure.  I'm not really sure what they mean, but knowing how companies report to investors, they are probably wording the report so that it shows them in the most favorable light.

--Star Wars: The Old Republic Has More Than 1.7 Million Active Subscribers

Originally posted by Anolev

Originally posted by fony

this is Q4 2011 AKA the initial rush. this is not how many people are subscribed right now.

Seriously, it's only a click away... READ people...

-- Star Wars(R): The Old Republic(TM) has generated 1.7 million active subscribers and sold through more than 2 million units in a little over one month.

... the number they're quoting is current... a little over a month from the launch date is basically yesterday...

That can also be read that the "in little over one month" is referring to only the units sold.  As in 1.7 million subs. 2 million units sold in over a month.  The in little over one month does not have to apply to both.  It can, but does not mean it has to. 

"Put that in your pipe and smoke it!" Congratz Bioware HUGE numbers for first actuall wave of subscriptions.

also many of you should read the report more closely and stop being a hater :)

Originally posted by Anolev

Originally posted by Wickedjelly

Pretty impressive.

Still doesn't explain what the fuck is going on with the servers I chose. Sure seem rather sparse and getting lighter to me but apparently there are more than a few that must be packed.

Mine feels like that as well, but I suspect it's because (1) the mad rush to level is dying down, (2) people are playing less insane hours as a result, and (3) I'm still only level 25 (very casual player here) so most of the initial rush is several planets beyond me.

Space Slug seems to be getting busier.  I do agree they need to at least add a option to transfer from a low population server to a higher one.  They need to figure out how legacy would transfer but that shouldn't be to hard.

Originally posted by ZizouX

Originally posted by leojreimroc

Originally posted by udon

Originally posted by ZizouX

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Official market watch and financial reports by EA are lies.... This game is dying and everyone knows it.  All you need to read is the xfire numbers.  I get my info from xfire.. not these "official" market reports.   

 

The writer of the article is obviously on the take.....and if anyong doesn't think so, you're naive to say the least.

These are legally binding SEC fillings.  If they lie people can/will go to jail for it.

Originally posted by Anolev

Originally posted by ZizouX

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Official market watch and financial reports by EA are lies.... This game is dying and everyone knows it.  All you need to read is the xfire numbers.  I get my info from xfire.. not these "official" market reports.   

 

The write of the article is obviously on the take.....and if anyong doesn't think so, you're naive to say the least.

I sincerely hope you're joking.

This isn't some marketing ploy or a press release.  This is a public earnings statement being made to the investors, has been through auditors, and is reviewed by the SEC.  These numbers are real.

Also, to the person who said the numbers for SW:TOR were through the end of December, no, re-read the article... it says those numbers are through "a little over one month"... meaning since the game launched at the end of December, those numbers are reflective of their subs at the end of January (i.e. yesterday).

 

Both of you fail at sarcasm....I mean common, ZizouX's post was so obvious.

THANK YOU!!!!

Internet sarcasm is hard.

all you need is adding *grin* at the end

Originally posted by sanosukex

Originally posted by Wickedjelly

Pretty impressive.

Still doesn't explain what the fuck is going on with the servers I chose. Sure seem rather sparse and getting lighter to me but apparently there are more than a few that must be packed.

http://www.torstatus.net/shards/us/stats

according to this people seem to be migrating to about 20 servers.. so guess if you are in one of those you probably saw a population jump

Figures. Explains a lot. Thanks for the link.

--Star Wars: The Old Republic Has More Than 1.7 Million Active Subscribers

To activate the game you had to add a subscription I think?

Originally posted by dubyahite

Originally posted by Creslin321

Originally posted by Anolev

Originally posted by fony

this is Q4 2011 AKA the initial rush. this is not how many people are subscribed right now.

Seriously, it's only a click away... READ people...

-- Star Wars(R): The Old Republic(TM) has generated 1.7 million active subscribers and sold through more than 2 million units in a little over one month.

... the number they're quoting is current... a little over a month from the launch date is basically yesterday...

Generated does not mean retained.  I could "generate" 5 million subscribers over 3 years, but only have 200 active subscribers currently.

The report is worded very ambiguously.  First they say it's for Q4 2011 (Dec. 31st), then they mention the "a little over one month" figure.  I'm not really sure what they mean, but knowing how companies report to investors, they are probably wording the report so that it shows them in the most favorable light.

--Star Wars: The Old Republic Has More Than 1.7 Million Active Subscribers

 But doesn't it also say that the report is for Q4 2011?  I just don't understand the time frames for all these numbers.  No where do they say "as of 2/1/2012, SWTOR has more than 1.7 million active subscribers."

Once again, not trying to hate...I just know how companies operate.  They will try to portray themselves in a favorable light, so I don't believe anything on a financial report that can't be absolutely "nailed down."  I do believe that at some point they had 1.7 million active subs though...I don't think they would outright lie.

Originally posted by Ausare

Originally posted by Anolev

Originally posted by fony

this is Q4 2011 AKA the initial rush. this is not how many people are subscribed right now.

Seriously, it's only a click away... READ people...

-- Star Wars(R): The Old Republic(TM) has generated 1.7 million active subscribers and sold through more than 2 million units in a little over one month.

... the number they're quoting is current... a little over a month from the launch date is basically yesterday...

That can also be read that the "in little over one month" is referring to only the units sold.  As in 1.7 million subs. 2 million units sold in over a month.  The in little over one month does not have to apply to both.  It can, but does not mean it has to. 

DING DING DING!! We have our winner....keep spin it :)

I guess those 1.7 mil people are not MMO-FO's.

Originally posted by zakiyawow

Originally posted by Ausare

Originally posted by Anolev

Originally posted by fony

this is Q4 2011 AKA the initial rush. this is not how many people are subscribed right now.

Seriously, it's only a click away... READ people...

-- Star Wars(R): The Old Republic(TM) has generated 1.7 million active subscribers and sold through more than 2 million units in a little over one month.

... the number they're quoting is current... a little over a month from the launch date is basically yesterday...

That can also be read that the "in little over one month" is referring to only the units sold.  As in 1.7 million subs. 2 million units sold in over a month.  The in little over one month does not have to apply to both.  It can, but does not mean it has to. 

DING DING DING!! We have our winner....keep spin it :)

Spinning for spins sake.

"Fourth Quarter Fiscal Year 2012 Expectations -- Ending March 31, 2012 "

I like this for the idiots that think EA's 3rd quarter end at the end of january.  So the 4th quarter for EA is only two months...2 is a fourth of 12?...nope EA's 3rd quarter ended 12/31/11.

Originally posted by Anolev

This isn't some marketing ploy or a press release.  This is a public earnings statement being made to the investors, has been through auditors, and is reviewed by the SEC.  These numbers are real.

Yeah, this.

If the numbers were faked, EA would be in actual legal trouble. These are real numbers since they have to be independently audited and presented to the SEC on a quarterly basis.

Originally posted by Creslin321

Originally posted by dubyahite

Originally posted by Creslin321

Originally posted by Anolev

Originally posted by fony

this is Q4 2011 AKA the initial rush. this is not how many people are subscribed right now.

Seriously, it's only a click away... READ people...

-- Star Wars(R): The Old Republic(TM) has generated 1.7 million active subscribers and sold through more than 2 million units in a little over one month.

... the number they're quoting is current... a little over a month from the launch date is basically yesterday...

Generated does not mean retained.  I could "generate" 5 million subscribers over 3 years, but only have 200 active subscribers currently.

The report is worded very ambiguously.  First they say it's for Q4 2011 (Dec. 31st), then they mention the "a little over one month" figure.  I'm not really sure what they mean, but knowing how companies report to investors, they are probably wording the report so that it shows them in the most favorable light.

--Star Wars: The Old Republic Has More Than 1.7 Million Active Subscribers

 But doesn't it also say that the report is for Q4 2011?  I just don't understand the time frames for all these numbers.  No where do they say "as of 2/1/2012, SWTOR has more than 1.7 million active subscribers."

Once again, not trying to hate...I just know how companies operate.  They will try to portray themselves in a favorable light, so I don't believe anything on a financial report that can't be absolutely "nailed down."  I do believe that at some point they had 1.7 million active subs though...I don't think they would outright lie.

When our company issue report like this, we do it the same way. We have concrete number till the end of the quarter. However, the user base would be currect as the date the report is issued.

Originally posted by Creslin321

Originally posted by dubyahite

Originally posted by Creslin321

Originally posted by Anolev

Originally posted by fony

this is Q4 2011 AKA the initial rush. this is not how many people are subscribed right now.

Seriously, it's only a click away... READ people...

-- Star Wars(R): The Old Republic(TM) has generated 1.7 million active subscribers and sold through more than 2 million units in a little over one month.

... the number they're quoting is current... a little over a month from the launch date is basically yesterday...

Generated does not mean retained.  I could "generate" 5 million subscribers over 3 years, but only have 200 active subscribers currently.

The report is worded very ambiguously.  First they say it's for Q4 2011 (Dec. 31st), then they mention the "a little over one month" figure.  I'm not really sure what they mean, but knowing how companies report to investors, they are probably wording the report so that it shows them in the most favorable light.

--Star Wars: The Old Republic Has More Than 1.7 Million Active Subscribers

 But doesn't it also say that the report is for Q4 2011?  I just don't understand the time frames for all these numbers.  No where do they say "as of 2/1/2012, SWTOR has more than 1.7 million active subscribers."

Once again, not trying to hate...I just know how companies operate.  They will try to portray themselves in a favorable light, so I don't believe anything on a financial report that can't be absolutely "nailed down."  I do believe that at some point they had 1.7 million active subs though...I don't think they would outright lie.

That number is derived from the highest possible number for that quarter (Q4/11). And yes, that's how they all operate.

That number has gone way down since then, just like every other MMO except for WoW in its hayday.