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Star Wars: The Old Republic Forum » General Discussion » Making of Rise of the Hutt Cartel Part 1: Creating Makeb

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  FromHell

Novice Member

Joined: 11/10/12
Posts: 1338

3/08/13 6:26:59 PM#21
Originally posted by Ppiper
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by velmax
I'm really excited as well, Makeb is looking AMAZING!!

Can´t wait to see the exhaustion zones... and the knee deep water, I highly doubt that something sophisticated like "swimming" has been added.

But I guess a lot of people already pre-ordered the cat in the bag, let´s see what this forum will say on release day.

it's funny... something what in other games would be invisible wall or just something that you cannot pass... and in SWTOR is exhaustion zone, where you can actually go... and beyond it is something mysterious and something you cannot reach now... but there is always a promise that one day you can is bashed endlessly :)

I love the way how they implemented map limits. On Tatooine on Dune Sea... you can see for miles into it, on Hoth the same...

What's the difference between this and other games other than a name and how it affects your character :)

It adds up. There is no swimming, the whole galaxy has planets with kneedeep water. If you run too far off into the desert you die in an exhaustion zone. No day night change, no twin sun set on Tattooine. The "horizon" is made up of mostly non-explorable cardboards. Graphics are still DX9 and look like 2006. Can´t tell how often I simply felt rickrolled by this game. They are trying to sell more of the same by showing "concept art". Nice try, Bioware, but no thanks

we get it, you hate the game...and then?

Nothing, just stating the obvious. Look, everyone can play it and have fun, hopefully lots of fun, but it doesn´t meet MY standards. And what´s more important, it sadly doesn´t meet the standards of the Star Wars IP.

Making a simple bullet point feature comparison with 2012 MMOs and even way older MMOs doesn´t make SWTOR a feature or graphics winner - that is a fact, not an opinion.

Secrets of Dragon´s Spine Trailer.. ! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwT9cFVQCMw

Best MMOs ever played: Ultima, EvE, SW Galaxies, Age of Conan, The Secret World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2X_SbZCHpc&t=21s
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The Return of ELITE !

  Ppiper

Advanced Member

Joined: 2/08/13
Posts: 669

3/08/13 6:29:26 PM#22
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by Ppiper
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by velmax
I'm really excited as well, Makeb is looking AMAZING!!

Can´t wait to see the exhaustion zones... and the knee deep water, I highly doubt that something sophisticated like "swimming" has been added.

But I guess a lot of people already pre-ordered the cat in the bag, let´s see what this forum will say on release day.

it's funny... something what in other games would be invisible wall or just something that you cannot pass... and in SWTOR is exhaustion zone, where you can actually go... and beyond it is something mysterious and something you cannot reach now... but there is always a promise that one day you can is bashed endlessly :)

I love the way how they implemented map limits. On Tatooine on Dune Sea... you can see for miles into it, on Hoth the same...

What's the difference between this and other games other than a name and how it affects your character :)

It adds up. There is no swimming, the whole galaxy has planets with kneedeep water. If you run too far off into the desert you die in an exhaustion zone. No day night change, no twin sun set on Tattooine. The "horizon" is made up of mostly non-explorable cardboards. Graphics are still DX9 and look like 2006. Can´t tell how often I simply felt rickrolled by this game. They are trying to sell more of the same by showing "concept art". Nice try, Bioware, but no thanks

we get it, you hate the game...and then?

Nothing, just stating the obvious. Look, everyone can play it and have fun, hopefully lots of fun, but it doesn´t meet MY standards. And what´s more important, it sadly doesn´t meet the standards of the Star Wars IP.

Making a simple bullet point feature comparison with 2012 MMOs and even way older MMOs doesn´t make SWTOR a feature or graphics winner - that is a fact, not an opinion.

I believe that is still an opinion. 

  ignore_me

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/04/11
Posts: 2034

3/08/13 6:30:38 PM#23
Originally posted by Ppiper
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by Ppiper
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by Pelaaja

Was writing a post about the expansion after watching the video, but thought what the heck.

This game is at the point where those who play are beyond saving and new gamers don't care about it.

Only thing that saddens me is that BW propaganda video gets out without comment and someone might think it's really an exciting game (it's not).

It's quite disturbing actually. I'm at the point where I can't really blame the people playing, but I can't ignore the undiscerning nature of their ability to play this game. It's as if I wish they could be made to understand the insult they accept when they champion this game. I don't like seeing Star Wars MMO fans treated this way.

"But I love it" is the characteristic justification of the abused. It saddens me that so many support this game only because it is Star Wars, and are accomplices in further tarnishing the IP.

we each have our reasons as to what we play. I find it remarkable that people transfer their own enjoyment onto others. Why is that? Fortunately, we're all not toaster ovens.

I believe your reason for playing is a cocktail of liking the IP, not caring about having a game that isn't casual (no need for immersive world and systems), being able to tolerate cartoony art, and having found others who share those parameters.

You do? How do you know why I play this game? Do you know me personally or do you just assume everything in life?

I am making a blanket statement about the population of this game. It is as accurate or inaccurate as it is, nothing more. I'm just as able to make assertions as you are to refute them, and being that you are actively opposing a viewpoint I explained, I don't trust your arguments anyway. I think you are just trying to out-rhetoric me and not really examining why you accept this game to the point that you champion it online.

I assume the sun will come up tomorrow, but I have pretty good reason to do so.

Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011

  Sevenstar61

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/22/12
Posts: 1690

"But it was so artistically done..." - Grand Admiral Thrawn's final words

3/08/13 6:32:55 PM#24
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by Ppiper
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by Ppiper
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by Pelaaja

Was writing a post about the expansion after watching the video, but thought what the heck.

This game is at the point where those who play are beyond saving and new gamers don't care about it.

Only thing that saddens me is that BW propaganda video gets out without comment and someone might think it's really an exciting game (it's not).

It's quite disturbing actually. I'm at the point where I can't really blame the people playing, but I can't ignore the undiscerning nature of their ability to play this game. It's as if I wish they could be made to understand the insult they accept when they champion this game. I don't like seeing Star Wars MMO fans treated this way.

"But I love it" is the characteristic justification of the abused. It saddens me that so many support this game only because it is Star Wars, and are accomplices in further tarnishing the IP.

we each have our reasons as to what we play. I find it remarkable that people transfer their own enjoyment onto others. Why is that? Fortunately, we're all not toaster ovens.

I believe your reason for playing is a cocktail of liking the IP, not caring about having a game that isn't casual (no need for immersive world and systems), being able to tolerate cartoony art, and having found others who share those parameters.

You do? How do you know why I play this game? Do you know me personally or do you just assume everything in life?

I am making a blanket statement about the population of this game. It is as accurate or inaccurate as it is, nothing more. I'm just as able to make assertions as you are to refute them, and being that you are actively opposing a viewpoint I explained, I don't trust your arguments anyway. I think you are just trying to out-rhetoric me and not really examining why you accept this game to the point that you champion it online.

I assume the sun will come up tomorrow, but I have pretty good reason to do so.

You can assume that sun will come up tomorrow, but you can't assume that you can understand intricacies of the human mind. That's a completely different ball game :)

Edit:

Example: I am a huge fan of Tolkien...  way more than SW. You would assume that I would enjoy playing LOTRO. The fact though is that I can't stand this game even though I am a big fan of IP. And some would say, game's graphic is beautiful, etc etc    Go figure :)


Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  DaRoamer

Novice Member

Joined: 5/11/10
Posts: 254

3/08/13 6:33:34 PM#25
The video was great, can't wait to play though it.  Loving the look of the planet.
  ignore_me

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/04/11
Posts: 2034

3/08/13 6:35:04 PM#26
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by Ppiper
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by Pelaaja

Was writing a post about the expansion after watching the video, but thought what the heck.

This game is at the point where those who play are beyond saving and new gamers don't care about it.

Only thing that saddens me is that BW propaganda video gets out without comment and someone might think it's really an exciting game (it's not).

It's quite disturbing actually. I'm at the point where I can't really blame the people playing, but I can't ignore the undiscerning nature of their ability to play this game. It's as if I wish they could be made to understand the insult they accept when they champion this game. I don't like seeing Star Wars MMO fans treated this way.

"But I love it" is the characteristic justification of the abused. It saddens me that so many support this game only because it is Star Wars, and are accomplices in further tarnishing the IP.

we each have our reasons as to what we play. I find it remarkable that people transfer their own enjoyment onto others. Why is that? Fortunately, we're all not toaster ovens.

I believe your reason for playing is a cocktail of liking the IP, not caring about having a game that isn't casual (no need for immersive world and systems), being able to tolerate cartoony art, and having found others who share those parameters.

That might be your reason. Please do not assume that you know all the reasons why I or others play this game. Last time I checked human do not have ability of reading others minds.

Seven I didn't realize you actually read my posts :)  I'm sorry if this offended you, but I was trying to express my hypothesis for why the overall population of the game still exists. That you are included in that population as one individual may or may not apply this description.

Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011

  Ppiper

Advanced Member

Joined: 2/08/13
Posts: 669

3/08/13 6:37:04 PM#27
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by Ppiper
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by Ppiper
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by Pelaaja

Was writing a post about the expansion after watching the video, but thought what the heck.

This game is at the point where those who play are beyond saving and new gamers don't care about it.

Only thing that saddens me is that BW propaganda video gets out without comment and someone might think it's really an exciting game (it's not).

It's quite disturbing actually. I'm at the point where I can't really blame the people playing, but I can't ignore the undiscerning nature of their ability to play this game. It's as if I wish they could be made to understand the insult they accept when they champion this game. I don't like seeing Star Wars MMO fans treated this way.

"But I love it" is the characteristic justification of the abused. It saddens me that so many support this game only because it is Star Wars, and are accomplices in further tarnishing the IP.

we each have our reasons as to what we play. I find it remarkable that people transfer their own enjoyment onto others. Why is that? Fortunately, we're all not toaster ovens.

I believe your reason for playing is a cocktail of liking the IP, not caring about having a game that isn't casual (no need for immersive world and systems), being able to tolerate cartoony art, and having found others who share those parameters.

You do? How do you know why I play this game? Do you know me personally or do you just assume everything in life?

I am making a blanket statement about the population of this game. It is as accurate or inaccurate as it is, nothing more. I'm just as able to make assertions as you are to refute them, and being that you are actively opposing a viewpoint I explained, I don't trust your arguments anyway. I think you are just trying to out-rhetoric me and not really examining why you accept this game to the point that you champion it online.

I assume the sun will come up tomorrow, but I have pretty good reason to do so.

you're making way to much out of this and my points. I am not trying to debate you, honestly. You are entitled to your opinion but we have both derailed this thread for what it was meant to be. That being said, I apologizze if I have offended you, that was not my intention. Be well.

  FromHell

Novice Member

Joined: 11/10/12
Posts: 1338

3/08/13 6:37:16 PM#28
Originally posted by Ppiper
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by Ppiper
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by velmax
I'm really excited as well, Makeb is looking AMAZING!!

Can´t wait to see the exhaustion zones... and the knee deep water, I highly doubt that something sophisticated like "swimming" has been added.

But I guess a lot of people already pre-ordered the cat in the bag, let´s see what this forum will say on release day.

it's funny... something what in other games would be invisible wall or just something that you cannot pass... and in SWTOR is exhaustion zone, where you can actually go... and beyond it is something mysterious and something you cannot reach now... but there is always a promise that one day you can is bashed endlessly :)

I love the way how they implemented map limits. On Tatooine on Dune Sea... you can see for miles into it, on Hoth the same...

What's the difference between this and other games other than a name and how it affects your character :)

It adds up. There is no swimming, the whole galaxy has planets with kneedeep water. If you run too far off into the desert you die in an exhaustion zone. No day night change, no twin sun set on Tattooine. The "horizon" is made up of mostly non-explorable cardboards. Graphics are still DX9 and look like 2006. Can´t tell how often I simply felt rickrolled by this game. They are trying to sell more of the same by showing "concept art". Nice try, Bioware, but no thanks

we get it, you hate the game...and then?

Nothing, just stating the obvious. Look, everyone can play it and have fun, hopefully lots of fun, but it doesn´t meet MY standards. And what´s more important, it sadly doesn´t meet the standards of the Star Wars IP.

Making a simple bullet point feature comparison with 2012 MMOs and even way older MMOs doesn´t make SWTOR a feature or graphics winner - that is a fact, not an opinion.

I believe that is still an opinion. 

A bullet point feature comparison between MMOs is not an opinion, it´s a fact sheet.

Secrets of Dragon´s Spine Trailer.. ! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwT9cFVQCMw

Best MMOs ever played: Ultima, EvE, SW Galaxies, Age of Conan, The Secret World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2X_SbZCHpc&t=21s
.


.
The Return of ELITE !

  ignore_me

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/04/11
Posts: 2034

3/08/13 6:40:38 PM#29
Originally posted by Ppiper
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by Ppiper
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by Ppiper
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by Pelaaja

Was writing a post about the expansion after watching the video, but thought what the heck.

This game is at the point where those who play are beyond saving and new gamers don't care about it.

Only thing that saddens me is that BW propaganda video gets out without comment and someone might think it's really an exciting game (it's not).

It's quite disturbing actually. I'm at the point where I can't really blame the people playing, but I can't ignore the undiscerning nature of their ability to play this game. It's as if I wish they could be made to understand the insult they accept when they champion this game. I don't like seeing Star Wars MMO fans treated this way.

"But I love it" is the characteristic justification of the abused. It saddens me that so many support this game only because it is Star Wars, and are accomplices in further tarnishing the IP.

we each have our reasons as to what we play. I find it remarkable that people transfer their own enjoyment onto others. Why is that? Fortunately, we're all not toaster ovens.

I believe your reason for playing is a cocktail of liking the IP, not caring about having a game that isn't casual (no need for immersive world and systems), being able to tolerate cartoony art, and having found others who share those parameters.

You do? How do you know why I play this game? Do you know me personally or do you just assume everything in life?

I am making a blanket statement about the population of this game. It is as accurate or inaccurate as it is, nothing more. I'm just as able to make assertions as you are to refute them, and being that you are actively opposing a viewpoint I explained, I don't trust your arguments anyway. I think you are just trying to out-rhetoric me and not really examining why you accept this game to the point that you champion it online.

I assume the sun will come up tomorrow, but I have pretty good reason to do so.

you're making way to much out of this and my points. I am not trying to debate you, honestly. You are entitled to your opinion but we have both derailed this thread for what it was meant to be. That being said, I apologizze if I have offended you, that was not my intention. Be well.

Fair enough. And accurate, I shouldn't have responded in the thread to begin with. Be well too :)

Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011

  Sevenstar61

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/22/12
Posts: 1690

"But it was so artistically done..." - Grand Admiral Thrawn's final words

3/08/13 6:44:22 PM#30
Originally posted by ignore_me

That might be your reason. Please do not assume that you know all the reasons why I or others play this game. Last time I checked human do not have ability of reading others minds.

Seven I didn't realize you actually read my posts :)  I'm sorry if this offended you, but I was trying to express my hypothesis for why the overall population of the game still exists. That you are included in that population as one individual may or may not apply this description.

No worries. Who knows what drives individuals to like or not to like the game.

Some reasons may be as weird as... hmmm  let me think.. shape of the backside of my male characters /grin

j/k... well... it's really, really not the main reason


Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  ktanner3

Master

Joined: 3/19/06
Posts: 4154

Trolls will be ignored

3/08/13 8:56:17 PM#31
Originally posted by gaou
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Originally posted by Pelaaja

Was writing a post about the expansion after watching the video, but thought what the heck.

This game is at the point where those who play are beyond saving and new gamers don't care about it.

Only thing that saddens me is that BW propaganda video gets out without comment and someone might think it's really an exciting game (it's not).

You forgot to say "not exciting to you". It's exciting for me and thousands others who play it :)

And sure it seems I belong to those beyond saving :). Very happy about it too.

At least I can still get excited about something

Too bad though that low planets are full of new players.... I guess nobody told them the game is not exciting :)

 

yea i have to wonder who asked to be saved. does he think people are incapable of deciding things for themselves. that they need him to do it for them.

 

also looks like the ilum event should be back soon

EricMusco

Unread Yesterday , 07:08 PM | #13 Click here to go to the next staff post in this thread. Next
Hey everyone!

Although I cannot completely satisfy your request by stating a date that the Gree event will be returning, I do have some information at least. The Gree event will be returning a whole lot sooner than you think (note no ™). Soon in this case, is Game Update 1.7.2!

As part of this I wanted to make you all aware of the fact that along with the Gree Event coming back, the Golden Scalene Armor is going to be removed from the store at the same time, but that armor could always come back at a later date!

As one last teaser, we have some pretty cool information coming next week, so keep your eyes open for that.

-eric
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=5966518#edit5966518
 

Looking forward to both Makeb and the next Gree Event .

Far as Mr. "I need to save people from playing this game" goes...got to love the internet. Some people think that you need to be saved by religion, some people think you need to be saved from fast food, some people think you need to be saved from technology...this the first time I ever heard that I needed to be saved from a game. What it all boils down to is "I hate this thing and don't want anyone else to enoy it either." When you cut through the B.S. that's all statements like that are about. 

Currently Playing: Star Wars The Old Republic

  tiefighter25

Novice Member

Joined: 7/30/12
Posts: 949

3/10/13 3:42:58 AM#32

The video soes say part 1.

I hope they show a bit more in part 2, although I have a feeling they may chose not to.

It does look nice, but I think it would be nice to have beefier talking points then waterfalls and a new space elevator planet landing sequence.

Also, Hall Hood (subjective, and could be bad make up/lighting) looks like hell in that video.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hall_Hood

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