Originally posted by FromHell

Originally posted by tawess

Originally posted by FromHell

 

I want that too, count me in :D

 

Well you can want it all you like. It will not happen. Partially because te SW fandom have said they do not want another NGE and mostly becuase it is not financially viable as it woudl call for a completet and total rewrite of the framework of the game. and the adding of about twice the amount of content that is in the game now (in order to make "real" living worlds and not just wide open spaces of nothing.)

What´s the definition of "another NGE" ? Can you be a little less cryptic?

What would upset the "SW fandom" ?

If space combat changes from Starfox to X-Wing vs. Tie Fighter /Jump to Lightspeed? 

If the game gets other things to do than repetitive gear grind, dailies or reputation grinds?

If the graphics get upgraded from 2007 to 2013 ?

If planets get a day/night change and exhaustion zones get canned?

If speeders go faster than wheelchairs and feel like actual speeders from the movies?

If mobs do something different than standing around like puppets?

 

Let me know what makes it "NGE" please, because in my opinion any kind of NGE can only make SWTOR better.

 Seems like you don't know what the NGE was tbh.

Originally posted by LoverNoFighter

Originally posted by FromHell

Originally posted by tawess

Originally posted by FromHell

 

I want that too, count me in :D

 

Well you can want it all you like. It will not happen. Partially because te SW fandom have said they do not want another NGE and mostly becuase it is not financially viable as it woudl call for a completet and total rewrite of the framework of the game. and the adding of about twice the amount of content that is in the game now (in order to make "real" living worlds and not just wide open spaces of nothing.)

What´s the definition of "another NGE" ? Can you be a little less cryptic?

What would upset the "SW fandom" ?

If space combat changes from Starfox to X-Wing vs. Tie Fighter /Jump to Lightspeed? 

If the game gets other things to do than repetitive gear grind, dailies or reputation grinds?

If the graphics get upgraded from 2007 to 2013 ?

If planets get a day/night change and exhaustion zones get canned?

If speeders go faster than wheelchairs and feel like actual speeders from the movies?

If mobs do something different than standing around like puppets?

 

Let me know what makes it "NGE" please, because in my opinion any kind of NGE can only make SWTOR better.

 Seems like you don't know what the NGE was tbh.

Well they made SWG more WOWlike, called it NGE and failed. The remaining sandbox elements, JTL and the community kept it alive for 10 years.

SWTOR started out as a WOWclone and failed too.

Seeing any similiarities?

STAR WARS IP does not work with a WOW concept, PERIOD

Originally posted by Aethaeryn

Originally posted by mikahr

it was supposed to be free update and now its paid update

 

To be fair it was supposed to be a free update when it was a sub game.

So all those people that still pay 15/month pay.....Its still sub game with limited free trial, just with forced added cost over the sub for less than even F2P games :) But its EA so no wonder lol

Oh, and what worked (works) for WoW didnt (dont) work for any other MMO, even if you put 300m$, crapzzillion of (experienced) people, 7 years development cycle and biggest IP in the world. So its pretty safe to say "it worked for WoW" is pretty much dead in teh water (just like most WoW clones ha ha) phrase

Originally posted by Scalpless
So, if you sub and buy Makeb, you'll get a new operation and a bunch of harder versions of old content... so not exciting.

No...The new operation and the bunch of harder versions of old content aren't related to Makeb.

Makeb is completely separate and includes its own content.

2.0 is nothing more then the patch before ROTHC mini expansion is released.

Originally posted by Azaron_Nightblade

http://www.swtor.com/info/news/%5Bnews-category%5D/20130220

Looks like it won't be long before it'll go live, seeing how it's on PTS! :D

And it seems Makeb will be coming with it.

I look forward to testing this out. Thanks for the update :)

Originally posted by FromHell

Now that will bring a million Star Wars fans back. A new raid, hard mode grinds, titles, reputation grinds and GEAR.

Boy that sounds fun...

+1, let's take everything that was wrong with the original, and keep screwing up! Yea! EA FTW! Why do they do this? I tried so hard to love this game. Why?

Originally posted by Xsorus

2.0 is nothing more then the patch before ROTHC mini expansion is released.

 

 

or after paid update is released. No dates yet on either.

Originally posted by Aeonblades

Originally posted by FromHell

Now that will bring a million Star Wars fans back. A new raid, hard mode grinds, titles, reputation grinds and GEAR.

Boy that sounds fun...

+1, let's take everything that was wrong with the original, and keep screwing up! Yea! EA FTW! Why do they do this? I tried so hard to love this game. Why?

- and - makes +. So if you make lots of minuses you get lots of pluses as a result. < ------ EA logic ;P

Check this link with information about update 2.0 from one of guilds

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=601446

 video posted there

OSW :: SWTOR Patch 2.0 Preview - New PvE Gear Preview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzG1zjA1Kcw

Class changes: Operative and Scoundrel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeZ6Lb7EkOM

Let me clarify a couple things:

NGE is a term that commonly refers to taking an awesome game and ruining it because a bunch of stuffed suit and ties know what makes a yacht great, but have zero effing clue what makes a video game great.

When a game is already a giant, corn riddled, floating turd, then there's only one place it could go with a complete redesign and that's BETTER.

So NGE has no place in SWTOR discussions.

Thank you for your time.

Originally posted by h0urg1ass

Let me clarify a couple things:

NGE is a term that commonly refers to taking an awesome game and ruining it because a bunch of stuffed suit and ties know what makes a yacht great, but have zero effing clue what makes a video game great.

When a game is already a giant, corn riddled, floating turd, then there's only one place it could go with a complete redesign and that's BETTER.

So NGE has no place in SWTOR discussions.

Thank you for your time.

Actually SWTOR was NGEd on release. It is like playing SWG from Nov 2005 as NGE, and knowing no better

Dallas Dickinson pushed the NGE, and was also responsible for the dumbing down of SWTOR

During the last six months of development, the team began a difficult triage process; where features that weren’t going to make it for launch were cut. All development heads were summoned to daily meetings at what Dallas dubbed ‘The Death Star’ – with each team being coached on what to cut, and what to keep. “Some developers cried,” explained Dallas. “I didn’t enjoy that.”

I do not see devs "crying" if stuff was merely delayed, the stuff that was cut must have been permanent.

If I spent years working on a product, then saw it being carved into a cookie cutter design, I would cry too ..

The game would never become the WoW killer it was supposed to be, there would be no advancement possible within EA's subdivision BioWare because of lacking funds... people would lose their jobs.

Personally, I think they cried because they saw their dreams of becoming successful being burnt to the ground..

Originally posted by h0urg1ass

Let me clarify a couple things:

NGE is a term that commonly refers to taking an awesome game and ruining it because a bunch of stuffed suit and ties know what makes a yacht great, but have zero effing clue what makes a video game great.

When a game is already a giant, corn riddled, floating turd, then there's only one place it could go with a complete redesign and that's BETTER.

So NGE has no place in SWTOR discussions.

Thank you for your time.

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Check this link with information about update 2.0 from one of guilds

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=601446

 

 video posted there

OSW :: SWTOR Patch 2.0 Preview - New PvE Gear Preview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzG1zjA1Kcw

 

Class changes: Operative and Scoundrel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeZ6Lb7EkOM

LOVING the changes to bounty hunter. Mercs FINALLY got some love with  the new shield and escape abilities. Hopefully this will make them more viable for PVP. 

Originally posted by LoverNoFighter
[mod edit]

I think this should be the title for every swtor thread until they put pazaak, swoop racing, in-depth open world pvp, 3d space combat, player housing, player made content ( music , mini game designs), duel arenas, and competitive e-sport pvp.

However... there is the so called secret space project. Thats the only thing that could be what was in development while more of the same is released. Which in that case, explains why there is more of the same while other systems are being developed.

Only if the SSSP (super secret space project) was the SSP instead aka super space project.

Originally posted by ktanner3

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Check this link with information about update 2.0 from one of guilds

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=601446

 

 video posted there

OSW :: SWTOR Patch 2.0 Preview - New PvE Gear Preview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzG1zjA1Kcw

 

Class changes: Operative and Scoundrel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeZ6Lb7EkOM

LOVING the changes to bounty hunter. Mercs FINALLY got some love with  the new shield and escape abilities. Hopefully this will make them more viable for PVP. 

Would the changes include a Player Bounty System?

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by ktanner3

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Check this link with information about update 2.0 from one of guilds

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=601446

 

 video posted there

OSW :: SWTOR Patch 2.0 Preview - New PvE Gear Preview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzG1zjA1Kcw

 

Class changes: Operative and Scoundrel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeZ6Lb7EkOM

LOVING the changes to bounty hunter. Mercs FINALLY got some love with  the new shield and escape abilities. Hopefully this will make them more viable for PVP. 

Would the changes include a Player Bounty System?

I'm guessing with that set up, on a scale from 1 to 10, that shot was impossible for you to resist.

Originally posted by ktanner3

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Check this link with information about update 2.0 from one of guilds

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=601446

 

 video posted there

OSW :: SWTOR Patch 2.0 Preview - New PvE Gear Preview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzG1zjA1Kcw

 

Class changes: Operative and Scoundrel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeZ6Lb7EkOM

LOVING the changes to bounty hunter. Mercs FINALLY got some love with  the new shield and escape abilities. Hopefully this will make them more viable for PVP. 

Humm, maybe time to dust off my Bounty Hunter for some fun. SWToR pvp definitely can be fun.  

Originally posted by Latronus

Originally posted by FromHell

Now that will bring a million Star Wars fans back. A new raid, hard mode grinds, titles, reputation grinds and GEAR.

Boy that sounds fun...

That's always seemed to work for WoW, but I'm sure their success has nothing to do with EAs decisions.  Of course there is a lot of sarcasm in what I wrote so take it with a grain of sand.

 I know your kidding, but just liked to use the point to point out:

It worked for WoW because Blizzard actually do poll opinions and changes base on what the customer base thinks.

And Blizzard don't think up hair-brain schemes to try to separate customers from their money, lol.

(the schemes that Blizzard has actually gives you value for money, not make you pay for every toolbar in the game)

Check out this short video guide to see what PVP Gear will be like in patch 2.0:

PvP Gearing changes in 2.0: http://youtu.be/hq8TEA6wCoA

I would like to note the specific changes to recruit gear, that being its removal. You're probably wondering how you're going to fair in PvP without a beginner's PvP set. Well Bioware has decided to replace recruit gear with its bolstering mechanic used in brackets 1-49. In patch 2.0 there are three brackets: LvL's 10-29, LvL's 30-54, LvL 55. That means if you go into bracket 10-29 you be boosted up to LvL 29, and if you go into bracket 30-54 you'll be boosted to LvL 54. Your stat bolstering will be determined by item LvL not character level this time around.

Thanks for watching!

Originally posted by toopowerful9000

Check out this short video guide to see what PVP Gear will be like in patch 2.0:

PvP Gearing changes in 2.0: http://youtu.be/hq8TEA6wCoA

I would like to note the specific changes to recruit gear, that being its removal. You're probably wondering how you're going to fair in PvP without a beginner's PvP set. Well Bioware has decided to replace recruit gear with its bolstering mechanic used in brackets 1-49. In patch 2.0 there are three brackets: LvL's 10-29, LvL's 30-54, LvL 55. That means if you go into bracket 10-29 you be boosted up to LvL 29, and if you go into bracket 30-54 you'll be boosted to LvL 54. Your stat bolstering will be determined by item LvL not character level this time around.

Thanks for watching!

Not overly happy with the increase in expertise. I think PVP stats for gear are a bad design that puts more emphasis on gear rather than skill. I know that if all gear was similiar, the raiders would kick up an almighty stink because they know that less people would participate in raids if they had more options. But it would be healthier for the game overall.