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  grimal

Spotlight Poster

Joined: 9/11/05
Posts: 2197

11/21/12 6:41:44 PM#61
Originally posted by Deewe
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by Deewe
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by Deewe
**snip**

Although that list appears quite long, I don't consider those to be anything more than minor bugs.  When I think of  a game not having polish, I am thinking of Vanguard (launch), Darkfall (launch), Mortal Online, UO (launch).   Those that you listed are bugs....they don't take away from the polish of the game.

LOTRO had a great launch indeed but I do think TOR's was just as good.  Have you been around for a bad launch (like Vanguard?)  Have you ever gone in places on a map where there was simply nothing there (i.e. empty spaces like in Darkfall?) Those, to me, are huge bugs.  What you essentially listed was a bullet list of minor bugs that it looks like you picked up from some forum or something.  I haven't noticed more than  half of them and I've been playing since early access.  Nice try though.

It's not a try it's just a few random things that comes to mind when thinking about the gameplay experience.

All my entries points at lack of polish. Things you would not have in a Blizzard game nor did I saw that much in Rift either. Even  LotRo feels much more polished and consistent.

 

Here's a few other examples: there are many holes in the environmental graphics letting you see though them. I never noticed that many since I was a beta tester in my former life.

Also too often in the cutscene you see weird, stairs like, shadows on the NPC body making them look very bad.

You can't move around the companions skills neither in their own bar nor in a separate one.

There's not even a shortcut to access (Ie promote) the codex 

The game  doesn't remember either if you set your quest tracker off, always bringing it back after loading planets or big instances.

The group tracker does not sort instances by level nor display the level bracket next to the quest.

The group finder does not check your template vs your available roles.

In the keybinding panel you have to read from right to left to know what does what and the key are on two rows for each skill

The font used in game is a bold one making it very unconvenient and tiring to read.

 

And the lists goes on and on.

 

Sorry but the game isn't polished and lacks quality compared to others AAA MMO.

Those items don't really bother me and seem more trivial than anything else.

I guess we have very different ideas of what "polish" means.

I can't recall the game it was....but there was a fairly recent game where if you typed in the chat box and the sentence was long enough, it didn't wrap around properly and actually left the chat box space.   That to me, is lack of polish.  Most AAA games post WoW have all been pretty polished.  Some more than others, but I personally found TOR to be very well polished.  I can't determine if LOTRO or TOR were better because it really feels like I am splitting hairs....but again, these items you listed seem like very minor scratches...not enough to deem the game unpolished.   It seems more like personal nitpicking than anything else.

But to each their own.

 

Want some examples about low quality on the chat features?

 

Here's a few 

  • CTRL left or right does not skip to the next word. That a very basic usage in chat functionnality
  • Many right click character name basic functions are missing
  • Can't set the chat text next to the borders of the screen
  • If I remember well can't page up/down in the chat text.
  • No basic slider to scroll the text either.
  • Can't even edit the chat windows through the UI applet
 
It's not nickpicking it's about having a well and evenly polished game.
There's a reason Blizzard is successful and well Trion is also considered delivering quality.
 
For now TOR has lower quality standards than the main AAA MMOs
 

Ok, you've got to be kidding.  Those listed issues right above are inconsequential.  Now it's obvious to me you are just trying to find any possible fault you can (no matter how small) and bring it up as a mark against the game's polish.   List me some real issues and then I'll actually consider it.  As it is right now this is patently absurd.

"I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you." - Robin Williams

  Deewe

Novice Member

Joined: 5/02/08
Posts: 1976

11/21/12 6:51:42 PM#62
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by Deewe
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by Deewe
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by Deewe
**snip**

Although that list appears quite long, I don't consider those to be anything more than minor bugs.  When I think of  a game not having polish, I am thinking of Vanguard (launch), Darkfall (launch), Mortal Online, UO (launch).   Those that you listed are bugs....they don't take away from the polish of the game.

LOTRO had a great launch indeed but I do think TOR's was just as good.  Have you been around for a bad launch (like Vanguard?)  Have you ever gone in places on a map where there was simply nothing there (i.e. empty spaces like in Darkfall?) Those, to me, are huge bugs.  What you essentially listed was a bullet list of minor bugs that it looks like you picked up from some forum or something.  I haven't noticed more than  half of them and I've been playing since early access.  Nice try though.

It's not a try it's just a few random things that comes to mind when thinking about the gameplay experience.

All my entries points at lack of polish. Things you would not have in a Blizzard game nor did I saw that much in Rift either. Even  LotRo feels much more polished and consistent.

 

Here's a few other examples: there are many holes in the environmental graphics letting you see though them. I never noticed that many since I was a beta tester in my former life.

Also too often in the cutscene you see weird, stairs like, shadows on the NPC body making them look very bad.

You can't move around the companions skills neither in their own bar nor in a separate one.

There's not even a shortcut to access (Ie promote) the codex 

The game  doesn't remember either if you set your quest tracker off, always bringing it back after loading planets or big instances.

The group tracker does not sort instances by level nor display the level bracket next to the quest.

The group finder does not check your template vs your available roles.

In the keybinding panel you have to read from right to left to know what does what and the key are on two rows for each skill

The font used in game is a bold one making it very unconvenient and tiring to read.

 

And the lists goes on and on.

 

Sorry but the game isn't polished and lacks quality compared to others AAA MMO.

Those items don't really bother me and seem more trivial than anything else.

I guess we have very different ideas of what "polish" means.

I can't recall the game it was....but there was a fairly recent game where if you typed in the chat box and the sentence was long enough, it didn't wrap around properly and actually left the chat box space.   That to me, is lack of polish.  Most AAA games post WoW have all been pretty polished.  Some more than others, but I personally found TOR to be very well polished.  I can't determine if LOTRO or TOR were better because it really feels like I am splitting hairs....but again, these items you listed seem like very minor scratches...not enough to deem the game unpolished.   It seems more like personal nitpicking than anything else.

But to each their own.

 

Want some examples about low quality on the chat features?

 

Here's a few 

  • CTRL left or right does not skip to the next word. That a very basic usage in chat functionnality
  • Many right click character name basic functions are missing
  • Can't set the chat text next to the borders of the screen
  • If I remember well can't page up/down in the chat text.
  • No basic slider to scroll the text either.
  • Can't even edit the chat windows through the UI applet
 
It's not nickpicking it's about having a well and evenly polished game.
There's a reason Blizzard is successful and well Trion is also considered delivering quality.
 
For now TOR has lower quality standards than the main AAA MMOs
 

Ok, you've got to be kidding.  Those listed issues right above are inconsequential.  Now it's obvious to me you are just trying to find any possible fault you can (no matter how small) and bring it up as a mark against the game's polish.   List me some real issues and then I'll actually consider it.  As it is right now this is patently absurd.

 

Say whatever you want the games I mentioned have these elements well done and btw it's in the details that you can see the quality of the polish.

 

Why do you think people pay way more for Apple products? Quality and polish of wich TOR is lacking especially compared to the others AAA MMO.

 

Now speaking of major issues dig into the FPS and network synchronisation.

For the record we don't have chat bubbles yet because the UI frames are killing the frame rate. 

Also world PvP was taken away because the engine can't handle more than a handful of players in the same area.

(Note before even trying: even the devs acknowledged these)

 

But I already pointed you to those and you keep closing your eyes.

Anyway I have a foot long of very specific examples, that didn't even took me time to think about, when you on the contrary have nothing to oppose to.

  iceman00

Novice Member

Joined: 5/04/05
Posts: 1367

Kevin Tierney

11/21/12 7:11:59 PM#63
Originally posted by Mogcat

So I get free to play Star Wars for a laugh. Ive read all the rage here and I just want to see what its like.

I get in and man its really fun. I thought the combat was going to be press your button 100000 years later it responds but no its pretty responsive. Theres something fun about running around blasting things in the face or wielding a lightsaber. The combat is not that bad. The story quests are really good too I was having more fun with them then I though I would.

Then theres free to play I read all the stuff here and was preparing my defenses for the monetary onslaught that would be coming my way from EA! OOOHH SHIII- Oh wait.. whats this.. It doesnt seem that bad at all. I was scanning the shop for things that would piss me off or restrictions that I would send me reeling away at lightspeed. Nope. Most of the cash shop has useless crap I dont want. The only things that annoy me are credit restrictions and the quickbar thing like seriously EA give me my god forsaken quickbars. Otherwise I dont give a shit about anything else. I just want my co op story which ive got for free on every class. Honestly I cant see the nickle and diming.

Dungeons? meh I guess if you really care about them, flashpoints meh, mail meh, warzones meh, operations meh, space combat LOL, umm what else, titles id like but i can live, some character customisation whatever, the galactic trade network dont care why would i sit on the ah when im just for the story. Restrictions on companions i guess is annoying but i dont really care about them cause i like my blaster better. no epics dont care not in it for epics.

Feels like I got a new online/co-op kotor for free and just have to pay for all the extra stuff. Been playing with my friend who was subbed before and its fun doing the story with him. Hes having fun Im having fun. Its for free everybody wins.

I mean.... pewpew its star wars!

And that's cool that you like it.  More power to you.  For the rest of us, we felt like this when we first started the game, and that new car feeling wore off pretty damn quickly.  Hopefully it won't for you.  People who shell out money deserve a good product and enjoyment. 

The issue isn't that nobody could enjoy this game.  The issue is that the overwhelming majority wouldn't, and don't.

  darkhalf357x

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/25/12
Posts: 1108

I'm only playing the role chosen for me. Who you supposed to be?

11/21/12 7:22:52 PM#64

Im taking it for what it is.  Running through the stories for free.  Cant beat that.  All the restrictions dont affect me and if they did I would just buy them.  I mean its not like its a 100 dollars a month.    If/when I get bored... Ill just stop playing.

Removal of the sub was the barrier for me.  Definitely not worth a consistent 14.95 every single month.

  Deewe

Novice Member

Joined: 5/02/08
Posts: 1976

11/21/12 7:49:21 PM#65
Originally posted by darkhalf357x

Im taking it for what it is.  Running through the stories for free.  Cant beat that.  All the restrictions dont affect me and if they did I would just buy them.  I mean its not like its a 100 dollars a month.    If/when I get bored... Ill just stop playing.

Removal of the sub was the barrier for me.  Definitely not worth a consistent 14.95 every single month.

Glad you are enjoying the game, still you're pointing at one of the main issue with the F2P model: the content is (mostly) free.

The game can't subside nor improve without cash flooding  in.

  MadDemon64

Hard Core Member

Joined: 4/19/08
Posts: 1081

Why is it that fantasy trolls are vulnerable to fire, but internet trolls thrive on flame wars?

11/21/12 9:06:06 PM#66
Originally posted by Mogcat

So I get free to play Star Wars for a laugh. Ive read all the rage here and I just want to see what its like.

I get in and man its really fun. I thought the combat was going to be press your button 100000 years later it responds but no its pretty responsive. Theres something fun about running around blasting things in the face or wielding a lightsaber. The combat is not that bad. The story quests are really good too I was having more fun with them then I though I would.

Then theres free to play I read all the stuff here and was preparing my defenses for the monetary onslaught that would be coming my way from EA! OOOHH SHIII- Oh wait.. whats this.. It doesnt seem that bad at all. I was scanning the shop for things that would piss me off or restrictions that I would send me reeling away at lightspeed. Nope. Most of the cash shop has useless crap I dont want. The only things that annoy me are credit restrictions and the quickbar thing like seriously EA give me my god forsaken quickbars. Otherwise I dont give a shit about anything else. I just want my co op story which ive got for free on every class. Honestly I cant see the nickle and diming.

Dungeons? meh I guess if you really care about them, flashpoints meh, mail meh, warzones meh, operations meh, space combat LOL, umm what else, titles id like but i can live, some character customisation whatever, the galactic trade network dont care why would i sit on the ah when im just for the story. Restrictions on companions i guess is annoying but i dont really care about them cause i like my blaster better. no epics dont care not in it for epics.

Feels like I got a new online/co-op kotor for free and just have to pay for all the extra stuff. Been playing with my friend who was subbed before and its fun doing the story with him. Hes having fun Im having fun. Its for free everybody wins.

I mean.... pewpew its star wars!

^...I agree wholeheartedly.

You and me, we're certain breed of players.  We don't play MMOs for the pvp, or the grind, or the difficulty.  We play it for the ambiance, the story, the game world.  To us, the limitations are meaningless, because we don't really plan on participating in anything that is truly limited.  So what if we can only play 3 flashpoints a week?  I usually don't do dungeons.

If only more people were like us, maybe there would be less outrage on things that are in the long run tiny.

Its a game people.  If you really want to play an MMO for the PvP, go play TF2.

Since when is Tuesday a direction?

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