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  noncley

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OP  10/01/12 5:15:24 AM#1

http://www.raphkoster.com/2012/09/17/ogda-meeting/#more-4248

[mod edited thread title]

Direct cut and pate. The smiley is his.

 

"As far as SWTOR goes, I had and have a lot of friends working on it… but I think anyone could deduce that I am not a fan of the very heavy storytelling approach, as I think that it a) downplays what MMOs do best and uniquely and b) drives exorbitant costs that increase risk and therefore conservatism. That said, they did it really well. :)

Gordon left quite a while before it shipped. I know, because he came to work at Playdom. I don’t really know the exact circumstances of why he left, nor would they be mine to reveal in any case.:)"

 

  Lowdos

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10/01/12 5:20:59 AM#2

Quite the exaggeration, there.

And it would appear that all MMOs are slowly dying, one way or another.

  halflife25

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10/01/12 5:23:07 AM#3
Ok i came in expecting to see Raph 'laughing..LAUGHING at slow death of SWTOR.' But all i saw  was two smilies and one random referenece to SWTOR.
  Lowdos

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10/01/12 5:24:34 AM#4
The OP should consider a job writing for the Daily Mail. (UK tabloid)
  Boldyn

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10/01/12 5:26:48 AM#5

Your english skills aren't that good I take it?

 

She wasn't being sarcastic at the end. She explains that she doesn't like that kind of gameplay but THAT BEING SAID, they did it pretty good.

 

...If you are gonna spend your life as a pathetic troll who makes himself feel good by putting others down, learn to do it properly.

  kadepsyson

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The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

10/01/12 5:33:39 AM#6
Man what a letdown of an OP

El Psy Congroo

  moguy2

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Wish I had something positive to say =(

10/01/12 5:35:40 AM#7

This is not the droid I was looking for.

 

Begone!

  noncley

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OP  10/01/12 5:36:51 AM#8
You fanbois have no sense of humour.
  BillMurphy

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10/01/12 5:37:39 AM#9
Originally posted by Boldyn

Your english skills aren't that good I take it?

 

She wasn't being sarcastic at the end. She explains that she doesn't like that kind of gameplay but THAT BEING SAID, they did it pretty good.

 

...If you are gonna spend your life as a pathetic troll who makes himself feel good by putting others down, learn to do it properly.

Just a correction: Raph is definitely a guy.  :)

  Phry

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10/01/12 5:38:07 AM#10
Originally posted by Lowdos
The OP should consider a job writing for the Daily Mail. (UK tabloid)

their too busy talking about the karda$ian$

  immodium

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10/01/12 5:42:23 AM#11
Originally posted by Lowdos
The OP should consider a job writing for the Daily Heil. (UK tabloid)

Just corrected that for you. :)

  Boldyn

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10/01/12 5:42:59 AM#12
Originally posted by BillMurphy
Originally posted by Boldyn

Your english skills aren't that good I take it?

 

She wasn't being sarcastic at the end. She explains that she doesn't like that kind of gameplay but THAT BEING SAID, they did it pretty good.

 

...If you are gonna spend your life as a pathetic troll who makes himself feel good by putting others down, learn to do it properly.

Just a correction: Raph is definitely a guy.  :)

And I was really set out to correct that aswell, but in my frustration with peoples behaviour (also shown by my lemming-like willingness to follow down their dark path..), I forgot it!

 

I am sorry Raph!

  noncley

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OP  10/01/12 5:46:33 AM#13
Originally posted by halflife25
Ok i came in expecting to see Raph 'laughing..LAUGHING at slow death of SWTOR.' But all i saw  was two smilies and one random referenece to SWTOR.

Those aren't just any 'SMILIES'.

They are 'SARCASTIC SMILIES'.

Look 'em up.

  Pie_Rat

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10/01/12 5:57:24 AM#14

Raph's the man ! Too bad he started working on "social" MMOs, I won't be following him there this time.

But then again...never say never !

Currently playing:

  aesperus

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10/01/12 7:25:55 AM#15

Some very interesting & complex points touched upon in this talk. Thanks for posting it!

I'd definitely recommend people interested in making games watch this (and read some of the material he mentions)! He touches on a lot of good points and problems with the industry.

  User Deleted
10/01/12 8:06:42 AM#16

The Issue with SWTOR is, MMOs need an environment where [they] can prosper slowly, grow, constant evolve.

EAWARE is all about the quick buck. Squeezing everything left out, and spending the money elswhere to keep record sales, because an amazing runnin mmo even with 4 million subs does not get near raw box and dlc sale numbers across platforms like the yearly FIFA, Madden, Dragon Age, ME franchise.

All EAWare wanted was high box sales, that's what they got.
How can any MMO prosper with such a developer? It's a shame that the sw franchise and the people working on the story and art got ra*** again by a milking company.

And it certainly didn't help to have incompetend "voiced" devs, shouting at the community things like "It's your fault you don't like our [bugged, half implemented] feature" instead on working, reshaping and finishing features. Or at least admitting errors instead of spinning them like "mega", "meaty" additions.

Nice read anyway thanks!

  User Deleted
10/01/12 9:12:42 AM#17
Originally posted by skydiver12

 

And it certainly didn't help to have incompetend "voiced" devs, shouting at the community things like "It's your fault you don't like our [bugged, half implemented] feature" instead on working, reshaping and finishing features. Or at least admitting errors instead of spinning them like "mega", "meaty" additions.

 

 

Am I the only one who thought that  in every interview, Ohlen looked like he had a VICIOUS case of diarrhea and was desperate to get off camera?

  starwarsnut

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10/01/12 10:41:03 AM#18
Other thing about james ohlen is hes an arrogant sob constantly saying "we have the best pvp team" when swtor has the most epic fail pvp i have ever seen not to mention how badly ilum went. Then to see him selling a custom ui and group finder like its content that was quite embarrassing to say the least. Imagine wow or gw2 making a huge deal about a group finder or custom ui. Its like an mmo in the lat 90's going hey we have copy and paste from chat!! exciting new features here!
  Yakamomoto

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10/01/12 3:52:23 PM#19

So.. SWG 2.... When?

 

:D

  smh_alot

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10/01/12 6:17:27 PM#20
Originally posted by noncley
Originally posted by halflife25
Ok i came in expecting to see Raph 'laughing..LAUGHING at slow death of SWTOR.' But all i saw  was two smilies and one random referenece to SWTOR.

Those aren't just any 'SMILIES'.

They are 'SARCASTIC SMILIES'.

Look 'em up.

 

? Are you sure that's not just wishful thinking from your side? A normal smiley and a sarcastic smiley both are exactly the same, so the context should make the difference clear. His comments from what I saw points to a normal smiley. I googled on Raph Koster and 'the Old Republic' out of curiosity, but couldn't really find any other SWTOR related quotes of him that'd point towards it being a sarcastic smiley. The 2nd smiley after the Gordon leaving comment is there in the OP, but isn't present in the source comment where the link in the OP points to. At least, no 2nd smiley as far as I can see in the link (wrong link?)

Meh, anyway... found a link to a Raph interview about SWG while googling, so I guess this thread hasn't been completely trivial to me.
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