Originally posted by KhinRunite

Originally posted by mikahr

Originally posted by Eletheryl

If you pay a sub, you´ll have cartel coins for free every month to buy those cosmetic things, Is just cosmetic stuff. 

How do you get cartel coins "free" if you pay a sub?

Its real money gambling.

He just meant you won't have to pay additional to get cartel coins if you're subbed. Although I'm pretty sure you can plop down additional cash if the "free" coins aren't enough.

Its ridiculous to call those free in any way you try to put it.

Its like saying that now if you buy the game+pay sub you can play it for free for 1 month.

Sounds ridiculous?

Unless there is a way to get Cartel coins WITHOUT PAYING anything (like you can get TP in LOTRO/DDO).

Two things popped into my mind:

 

- Lockbox Wars

 

- Star Gamble

 

 

 

Originally posted by Deewe

How many of you wasted $$$ in SWG TCG to be left with nothing since the closure of the game?

 

Well the scam is back in another a bit more subtle form.

 

Form today Q&A:

Quote" We also have a really cool thing called Cartel packs. Cartel packs you buy give you a random assortment of really cool items and a chance to get some of the cooler items that maybe in the game (not powerful, but very cool – they going to make you look AMAZING!)"

 

Prepare your credits: you're going to be milked dry.

Hmm where is the scam you speak of?

Never played TCG in SWG, yet have played SWG allot, but that cardgame never intrested me.

To me something is a scam is you are forced to use something, and seems like many times again some people seem to force stuff upon themselfs that are optional towards everyone else.

So there is NOTHING to be prepared for as it's optional.

I expect this game to have its life support removed sometime next year

Originally posted by GreenishBlue
I expect this game to have its life support removed sometime next year

Don't think that will happen.

I am enjoying the GAME.

As a MMORPG it failed for me, but for a co-op online RPG it is really good and enjoyable.

I really had to go in with a different mindset and that worked for me.

If I kept the mindset of thinking it's a MMORPG than I wouldn't even bother playing it. But since I am a gamer I can enjoy this game.

Regardless I already knew from before release that SWtOR wasn't the MMORPG I was looking for even though I am a hugh Star Wars fan. Else I would have bought the game at release. Instead I just started playing for nearly 2/3 months now and despite it does not give me the fibe of it being a MMORPG. It does give me a fibe of being a enjoyable game.

 

Makes me wonder if they marketed the game as a co-op online RPG if it would have done better?

Originally posted by GreenishBlue
I expect this game to have its life support removed sometime next year

 

Lol. This is just plain silly, and unclear thinking >.<

Or maybe more like wishful thinking.

Originally posted by GreenishBlue
I expect this game to have its life support removed sometime next year

I held a party with a few ppl when it announced ftp, if its plug gets pulled I'm hiring one of those obnoxious hummer limos and I'll fill it with hookers and party like its 1999. 

Originally posted by karmath

Originally posted by GreenishBlue
I expect this game to have its life support removed sometime next year

I held a party with a few ppl when it announced ftp, if its plug gets pulled I'm hiring one of those obnoxious hummer limos and I'll fill it with hookers and party like its 1999. 

 

Lol... I think that says it all of the mindset of a part of the current gamers population. Partying when a company or game does badly as if World War 2 has ended and the Nazis been defeated.

The other thing with GW2 boxes. They typically contain boosts that would otherwise be required to purchase in their cash shop such as xp boosts and do not contain weapon or armor items. All of the stuff in the GW2 boxes are fluff from what I can tell outside of the random boost. It is also possible to get additional keys from a box - so one key from in-game could lead to the opening of 4 or 5 boxes. The boxes only contain things that would otherwise require a purchase from the cash shop - so not buying the keys and ignoring the boxes will have 0 impact on gameplay in GW2. It might quicken your leveling experience a small amount, however, it is possible to level pretty fast in the game allready so that is no big loss.

 

Arena Net is counting on people wanting to continue to buy their game over the next couple of years with perhaps an expansion to come at some point. They will not lower their price to any significant degree and in this way they hope to make a significant amount of money. The last numbers I heard were over 2million copies sold - figure a price of $60 per copy(I do not know of any discounts at this time) and you get $120million plus so far. No idea what they spent on development - but i figure they spent less than that. So they have likely made their initial investment back and are now making a profit. In addition there are people who spend money in the cash shop for silly things - so their model seems to be working for them at this point.

 

They are probably hoping to reach the point where they can sell 10 million copies a year between base game and expansions similar to battlefield 3.

 

Star Wars: The Old Republic

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 Maelkor: ?? GW2 ??

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Originally posted by stratasaurus

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Originally posted by superniceguy STO does this kind of thing too with Lock Boxes and Master Keys You loot a Lock Box, and then you can only open them with a Master Key bought from the store with ZEN. They contain about 1 really must have rare item, and then the rest is just filler loot. At least you can play the game to get ZEN F2P games just detroys the soul of a game. eg LOTRO - Busy playing other MMOs, and then suddenly spot they have a limited time mount in the store, but as I do not have enough time to get character to level 20, I just log in buy the rifding skill and then buy the mount, logoit and not played the game at all. The better option would be to just put a quest in the game for you to play to get that mount. With both LOTRO and STO they always put stuff in the store that is temporary, as a motivator to get people to log in and get them befiore they are gone. LOTRO with mounts, and STO with lock boxess.

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Doesn't GW2 have the same thing as well with the black trading chests that require a key from the gemstore to open.  This is part of f2p.  Everyone thinks f2p is so awesome and monthly subs suck so stuff like this is part of getting what you asked for.

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Except you can get keys from loot and map completition rewards, I haven't bought a single key from the cash shop yet and already unlocked 12 chests.

PS, IIRC the TCG "gambling" was illegal in certain states and countries, so I assume the cartel packs will also be illegal in certain places.

This is what I think of the future of F2P and regular gaming

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h472NmF1HEQ

I'd agree with the term "scam in the making" when it comes to cartel packs. It will eventually kill the integrity of play. I do think STO is a great example of what will happen. It starts off  innocently enough but as the packs become their main source of income it will be milked for all it is worth with increasingly powerful items you have slim chances of getting and little concern for balance. It is simply the nature of all things to migrate toward extremes and money will drive this horse over a cliff. People with money to burn, poor judgement, or deep wants, will fork over big bucks to get their precious. The state of STO with lock boxes right now is atrocious. It took PWE a year to get to this point but they started just as innocently.  In this case, "EA" the acclaimed worst company in America, is driving fora bigger profit margin...

Interesing acticle: 

 

The Perfect Ten: The truth about lockboxes