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Star Wars: The Old Republic Forum » General Discussion » An Odd Interview with Gabe Amatangelo

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  tiefighter25

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8/17/12 4:33:31 PM#1

http://www.darthhater.com/articles/swtor-news/21321-gamescom-2012-interview-with-gabe-amatangelo

Mostly a kid glove interview.

A few intresting things about upcoming content and FTP access.

The Illum thing is Wut?

He doesn't seem sure what he can or can't say ot what other devlopers have already said.

  DrDwarf

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8/17/12 10:34:15 PM#2

Indeed.

The excitement of launch and all the talk about a galaxy of extra planets seems a long time ago now.

 

 

  noncley

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8/17/12 11:30:18 PM#3
Sites like Darthater and that little webshow with the squeaky-voiced presenter are pretty much just retweeters of the EA marketing department.
  tiefighter25

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8/17/12 11:52:41 PM#4
Originally posted by noncley
Sites like Darthater and that little webshow with the squeaky-voiced presenter are pretty much just retweeters of the EA marketing department.

You are correct, but I still thought the interview was woth discussing just because Gabe, or anyone at Bioware for that matter, has really said much of anthing for so long.

  noncley

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8/18/12 2:09:16 AM#5
My post wasn't a criticism of you - it was a critique of the the interviewer thouygh. If film reviewers reviewed films like game reviewers reviewed games, they'd soon be sacked.
  Greyhooff

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8/18/12 5:00:45 AM#6

Pathetic fanboy interviews incompetent developer who somehow kept his job.

More news at 11.

  FoxyShoxzy

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8/18/12 12:03:59 PM#7

Wasn't Gabe responsible for developing most of TOR's raid content? I remember reading interviews with him on Darth Hater about the different difficulty settings, loot distribution, etc.

  Karteli

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8/18/12 2:34:26 PM#8
Originally posted by FoxyShoxzy

Wasn't Gabe responsible for developing most of TOR's raid content? I remember reading interviews with him on Darth Hater about the different difficulty settings, loot distribution, etc.

 He was.  He did some PVP too.  Here's a good interview with him last year.  Good in the sense that it is funny, because stuff he talked about never came to pass. LULZ.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4bBb_gIROc

 

To the current interview by the OP, I feel sorry for how badly he trying to force a positive spin on SWTOR.  He uses the word "like" so much I feel as though I'm listening to a 12 year old girl who is like so much into SWTOR that it is just like oh my god! like you can do so much it's like fun.  Like really!  Like if you haven't seen the OP's video then you are like not keeping up with promises!  Did I ever tell you about our F2P?  It's going to be like so awesome!

Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  tiefighter25

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8/18/12 2:46:39 PM#9
Not many people around here are old enough to remember the huge ammount of damage done by Valley girls to the English language. Like gag me wit a spoon.
  Kilmaul

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8/18/12 2:56:54 PM#10
Originally posted by tiefighter25

http://www.darthhater.com/articles/swtor-news/21321-gamescom-2012-interview-with-gabe-amatangelo

Mostly a kid glove interview.

A few intresting things about upcoming content and FTP access.

The Illum thing is Wut?

He doesn't seem sure what he can or can't say ot what other devlopers have already said.

"In the immediate future, we have this one, and then we’ve got another one that is actually going to be – so we’re going to have, what we want to do, is in January, what we’re targeting to do, this may or may not happen, so you can’t hold me to it."

 

What the hell did he just say??

  Karteli

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8/18/12 3:01:48 PM#11
Originally posted by Kilmaul
Originally posted by tiefighter25

http://www.darthhater.com/articles/swtor-news/21321-gamescom-2012-interview-with-gabe-amatangelo

Mostly a kid glove interview.

A few intresting things about upcoming content and FTP access.

The Illum thing is Wut?

He doesn't seem sure what he can or can't say ot what other devlopers have already said.

"In the immediate future, we have this one, and then we’ve got another one that is actually going to be – so we’re going to have, what we want to do, is in January, what we’re targeting to do, this may or may not happen, so you can’t hold me to it."

 

What the hell did he just say??

He is pledging new content but if EA Bioware can't hold their 3rd promise now for faster content he doesn't want to be accountable.  At least not until the 4th promise, or 5th.  Basically he doesn't want to be fired like his co-workers.

Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  ignore_me

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"but these go to eleven."

8/18/12 3:06:29 PM#12

I'm amused by their assumption that the public is permanently grotesquely stupid. If anyone remembers Joe Isuzu, that should be their new spokeman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic0UejzZDZ8

You want to throw away your money developing something stupid, go ahead.

  starwarsnut

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8/19/12 3:21:13 AM#13

The site  should be called darthcarebears.com That site is nothing but uber carebears praising tor and if you disagree with them they report you for trolling lol.

As you can tell with the interview they went under the desk for it. God forbid they ask gabe hey wheres the open world pvp? insted theyre laughing about ilum? It was his creation and him going prepared to be amazed and all this crap.

They can suger coat it all they like on that site but the truth is tor is losing subs already lost 600k gone f2p before a year. Well soe and game sites then praised the nge to lol. The truth always prevails.....

  Pongo_

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8/19/12 2:37:39 PM#14
Originally posted by ignore_me

I'm amused by their assumption that the public is permanently grotesquely stupid. If anyone remembers Joe Isuzu, that should be their new spokeman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic0UejzZDZ8

 i was joe isuzu for halloween one year.

it was the commercial where he was electricuted from the overloaded lie detector he was hooked up to.

also i'll never believe anything anyone from EA/BW ever says

  Souldrainer

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8/20/12 7:55:47 AM#15
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by FoxyShoxzy

Wasn't Gabe responsible for developing most of TOR's raid content? I remember reading interviews with him on Darth Hater about the different difficulty settings, loot distribution, etc.

 He was.  He did some PVP too.  Here's a good interview with him last year.  Good in the sense that it is funny, because stuff he talked about never came to pass. LULZ.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4bBb_gIROc

 

Umm... WAT?!?  He didn't lie about one thing there.  Not one!  On top of that, the vast majority of what they asked him about is not only in the game, but also more fully featured than what was asked about.  Did you play SWTOR?  Don't lie!

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  Souldrainer

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8/20/12 7:58:05 AM#16
Originally posted by tiefighter25

http://www.darthhater.com/articles/swtor-news/21321-gamescom-2012-interview-with-gabe-amatangelo

Mostly a kid glove interview.

A few intresting things about upcoming content and FTP access.

The Illum thing is Wut?

He doesn't seem sure what he can or can't say ot what other devlopers have already said.

Reality check:  fan sites are not there to tear game companies apart, especially when it is the #2 sub-based MMO in the world  and hasn't even launched in Asia.

Correction:  It has launched in the Asian Pacific (though not all of Asia).

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  The1ceQueen

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"Always borrow money from a pessimist. They won't expect it back."

8/20/12 8:09:22 AM#17
Originally posted by Souldrainer
 

Reality check:  fan sites are not there to tear game companies apart, especially when it is the #2 sub-based MMO in the world  and hasn't even launched in Asia.

They did for Asia Pacific I thought.

http://www.swtor.com/blog/welcome-asia-pacific-players

What happens when you log off your characters????.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFQhfhnjYMk
Dark Age of Camelot

  Souldrainer

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8/20/12 8:20:09 AM#18
Originally posted by Tayah
Originally posted by Souldrainer
 

Reality check:  fan sites are not there to tear game companies apart, especially when it is the #2 sub-based MMO in the world  and hasn't even launched in Asia.

They did for Asia Pacific I thought.

http://www.swtor.com/blog/welcome-asia-pacific-players

I stand corrected.  Still, the game is having a fair amount of success (More than Rift, Tera, Aion, and TSW), so there is no reason for a fan site moderator to randomly accost the developers and become testy in the middle of a game convention.

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  tiefighter25

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8/20/12 1:58:03 PM#19
Originally posted by Souldrainer
Originally posted by Tayah
Originally posted by Souldrainer
 

Reality check:  fan sites are not there to tear game companies apart, especially when it is the #2 sub-based MMO in the world  and hasn't even launched in Asia.

They did for Asia Pacific I thought.

http://www.swtor.com/blog/welcome-asia-pacific-players

I stand corrected.  Still, the game is having a fair amount of success (More than Rift, Tera, Aion, and TSW), so there is no reason for a fan site moderator to randomly accost the developers and become testy in the middle of a game convention.

I wouldn't put much hope in SWTOR gaining traction in Asia.

Whether or not the SW IP is popular in China is irelevant.

Currently SWTOR has 3 servers in Australia. (Wich are pretty sick according to Tor Status). Australia is kind of backwards in its transoceanic internet wiring. The Asian-Pacific servers get god awful pings for anyone trying to play them if they aren't in Austalia or New Zealand. Singapore has unplayable ping times (an offically supported area) the pings are unplayable from the Phillppines and Indonesia as well. People trying to play SWTOR from Japan discovered that the pings were beter to the US West Coast then Australia.

Furthermore, people often poke fun at WoW for opening in China, but to be truthful, it ain't easy. You have to first create a secondary pay system for internet cafes. (granted the new FTP model may help Tor in that regard, but they would have to come up with different cash shop for China, they can't afford to spend a month's salary on a speeder.) Also you have to negotiate with the Chineese government which is both authoritarian and corrupt in one tough package. Also, the game would have to be translated into Mandarian. That's alot of translating to do with or without voice-overs. Considering the voice overs are supposed to be a big part of the game, kind of odd not to have them to begin with.  (Spanish and Portugese countries don't seem to be so keen on being suck a large lingual group ignored by Bioware.)

It doesn't end there though. Then the Chineese censors have to evaluate the game and anything they object to has to be taken out. Then the modified game has to be resubmited for evaluation again and again till it is approved. (WoW had to remove all skeltons from its game, not cheap to do.) Then as a eveloper, you have to create systems that enables the Chineese government to snoop on the chat windows. Bejing doesn't want a game cordinating protests a la the London riots.

If you do all the above, then you get to invest in expensive mainland Asian servers. The problem here is the game is now FTP. The option now is nothing or a deluge. Opening a FTP game for a billion more people requires enormous server infrastructure expenditures. Because there is no sub fee and only reduced cash shop fees, the expenditure is unlkely worth the increased revenue.

Long story short, don't pin SWTOR's hopes on China. There's just little to no chance of it happening.