Originally posted by rdrakken

Originally posted by Airtaee

 You will pay the 15$ and could play any of their games

 I still wouldnt pay it.

Maybe if it was $5...maybe...for a while...perhaps...if you didnt have to buy the games first.

Yes, paying for the download is the 1st thing that needs to go. That alone will bring in subs even if they keep the sub fee. For a month or two at least before players still be bored and leave.

Well you actually have to have a portfolio of games that people want to play to for this to work.  :)

Originally posted by Airtaee

 

Have you noticed now when you log,  the game launcher says about available enviorenments? Well many people says its a bug  about Test Center and Normal servers... Here is my bet.

 

EA will create a multigame plataform for all their monthly fee games (read SWTOR, WAR, UO, DAOC  and  maybe TSW) and merge the time you can play any of them in a unique former pass time, pretty like the SONY  STATION PASS.

You will pay the 15$ and could play any of their games, so they can make up their shitty numbers, saying they have a player base of X (not revealing how many belongs to each game).

Also this move will bring new life to his dying games, as people will think his 15 $ now worth much more as can be wasted in multiple games.

 

This is my prediction, lets the time go and see. If not, stills a good idea and EA should make me their new CEO because I'm sure this will work pretty well.

Pure speculation. there is no real evidence or facts to substantiat that claim. I typed this wearing my tinfoil hat, btw.

Originally posted by Airtaee

 

Have you noticed now when you log,  the game launcher says about available enviorenments? Well many people says its a bug  about Test Center and Normal servers... Here is my bet.

 

EA will create a multigame plataform for all their monthly fee games (read SWTOR, WAR, UO, DAOC  and  maybe TSW) and merge the time you can play any of them in a unique former pass time, pretty like the SONY  STATION PASS.

You will pay the 15$ and could play any of their games, so they can make up their shitty numbers, saying they have a player base of X (not revealing how many belongs to each game).

Also this move will bring new life to his dying games, as people will think his 15 $ now worth much more as can be wasted in multiple games.

 

This is my prediction, lets the time go and see. If not, stills a good idea and EA should make me their new CEO because I'm sure this will work pretty well.

Ah, the Station Pass...     Sony got that wrong the first time the did it and it really helped to hurt EQ & EQ2.   Now they have it right, but it's 7-years later than it should have been...    I have less faith that EA would get it right than Sony.

Also, I don't think they'll get Funcom to sign on.   The Secret World is doing well and not showing any particular early-die off like TERA which dropped (as predicted) like a hot rock.  (NOTE:  Not hater prediction, just history-- 45-to-15 contraction in Korea and a 10-to-3 contraction in Japan.   Contraction was expected by anyone not a raving lunatic fanboy.) 

Plus EA is their publisher, not their owner and, quite likely, doesn't have much of anything to say about it.   Funcom could always find a new publisher once this deal expires if EA got froggy with them.   

But credit for at least trying.   It's not a bad idea.   I just don't see why Funcom would be willing to be bled.   TSW is working quite well for them.    Plus SWTOR, while it doesn't seem like it will every justify it's hype or investment, hasn't completely hit the fan yet.    These are your US/European/Oceania play percentages for MMOs:

♦ World of Warcraft (43.7%)

♦ Star Wars: The Old Republic (6.2%)

♦ Aion (3.7%)

♦ The Secret World (3.6%)

♦ Eve Online (3.1%)

♦ Metin 2 (2.7%)

♦ The Lord of the Rings Online (2.2%)

♦ Other (34.9%)

Things will change when GW2 hits the market.   The issue then becomes what will it do to this MMO player mix?    I think, but certainly can't prove, that SWTOR and Aion will take the biggest hits.   The logic behind it is that Aion has no commitment so people can come and go as they please and with SWTOR many of them are now just hanging out while waiting for something better to come along because they're tired of what's out there.

But we'll see...

Originally posted by Sindorin

Originally posted by Airtaee

 

Have you noticed now when you log,  the game launcher says about available enviorenments? Well many people says its a bug  about Test Center and Normal servers... Here is my bet.

 

EA will create a multigame plataform for all their monthly fee games (read SWTOR, WAR, UO, DAOC  and  maybe TSW) and merge the time you can play any of them in a unique former pass time, pretty like the SONY  STATION PASS.

You will pay the 15$ and could play any of their games, so they can make up their shitty numbers, saying they have a player base of X (not revealing how many belongs to each game).

Also this move will bring new life to his dying games, as people will think his 15 $ now worth much more as can be wasted in multiple games.

 

This is my prediction, lets the time go and see. If not, stills a good idea and EA should make me their new CEO because I'm sure this will work pretty well.

Pure speculation. there is no real evidence or facts to substantiat that claim. I typed this wearing my tinfoil hat, btw.

He was quite clear it was a BET.   A bet is a speculation, by defintion.   You speculate on an event and wager money or some other tangible/intangible good or service on the outcome of the event.

Derp.

Originally posted by MosesZD

He was quite clear it was a BET.   A bet is a speculation, by defintion.   You speculate on an event and wager money or some other tangible/intangible good or service on the outcome of the event.

Well, yes, but did he put any money up?  Is there some way to collect?

Notta bet then.  Speculation?  Yah, 'tis.

Bets with 'forum cred' are pretty common, and worth every bit of the paper they're printed on.

Originally posted by Top_Quark

I doubt it.

If they charge 15 a month for all their MMOs (all 2 of them) then they would lose money.

If they charged 20+ a month for all their MMOs they would lose subscribers because all their other MMOs are dead

That's a little like what happened with the Station Pass from Sony.   That $30 a month Station Pass was decided upon because they couldn't bear the thought of EQ and EQ2 sharing too much revenue stream so they ended up fracturing their own game market player base, causing lower retention in both games.

Had they been more reasonable, since both IPs were still very strong, it might of worked at a better compromise price.    But they didn't and WoW kicking them in the teeth every day didn't help, either.

I often wonder what would have happened with WoW if Sony had sold EQ and EQ2 as a combined property for $15 a month...   Would we be talking about SWTOR being an EQ2 clone instead?   EQ2 in space...?    Who knows...

Originally posted by Airtaee

 

Have you noticed now when you log,  the game launcher says about available enviorenments? Well many people says its a bug  about Test Center and Normal servers... Here is my bet.

 

EA will create a multigame plataform for all their monthly fee games (read SWTOR, WAR, UO, DAOC  and  maybe TSW) and merge the time you can play any of them in a unique former pass time, pretty like the SONY  STATION PASS.

You will pay the 15$ and could play any of their games, so they can make up their shitty numbers, saying they have a player base of X (not revealing how many belongs to each game).

Also this move will bring new life to his dying games, as people will think his 15 $ now worth much more as can be wasted in multiple games.

 

This is my prediction, lets the time go and see. If not, stills a good idea and EA should make me their new CEO because I'm sure this will work pretty well.

 I would hope that you are right.

This would only be a positive for their subscriber's as it would give them more value for the $

I would not look at this type of thing as a negative at all. If this was a trend for the industry it would be a damn good one for the consumer.

Originally posted by Icewhite

Originally posted by MosesZD

He was quite clear it was a BET.   A bet is a speculation, by defintion.   You speculate on an event and wager money or some other tangible/intangible good or service on the outcome of the event.

Well,  yes, but did he put any money up?  Is there some way to collect?

Notta bet then.

Bet (n)

A bet does not have to be for money.   Like I said, it is a wager of a tangible or intangible good or service.   It does not even require an EXPLICIT wager.   Reputation is, in fact, a common wager that is not explicitly defined in the wager.

His bet was, clearly to anyone paying attention and not trying to cover for a comprehension failure, an implicit reputation wager.   A counter of status.   Getting it right increases status.  Getting it wrong diminishes status.

That you don't get it, makes you wrong, not me.

Originally posted by MosesZD

Originally posted by Icewhite

Originally posted by MosesZD

He was quite clear it was a BET.   A bet is a speculation, by defintion.   You speculate on an event and wager money or some other tangible/intangible good or service on the outcome of the event.

Well,  yes, but did he put any money up?  Is there some way to collect?

Notta bet then.

Bet (n)

1. An agreement usually between two parties that the one who has made an incorrect prediction about an uncertain outcome will forfeit something stipulated to the other; a wager.

 

A bet does not have to be for money.   Like I said, it is a wager of a tangible or intangible good or service.   It does not even require an EXPLICIT wager.   Reputation is, in fact, a common wager that is not explicitly defined in the wager.

 

His bet was, clearly to anyone paying attention and not trying to cover for a comprehension failure, an implicit reputation wager.   A counter of status.   Getting it right increases status.  Getting it wrong diminishes status.

 

That you don't get it, makes you wrong, not me.

Forum cred is valueless currency.

Carry on.

Originally posted by Airtaee

 

Have you noticed now when you log,  the game launcher says about available enviorenments? Well many people says its a bug  about Test Center and Normal servers... Here is my bet.

 

EA will create a multigame plataform for all their monthly fee games (read SWTOR, WAR, UO, DAOC  and  maybe TSW) and merge the time you can play any of them in a unique former pass time, pretty like the SONY  STATION PASS.

You will pay the 15$ and could play any of their games, so they can make up their shitty numbers, saying they have a player base of X (not revealing how many belongs to each game).

Also this move will bring new life to his dying games, as people will think his 15 $ now worth much more as can be wasted in multiple games.

 

This is my prediction, lets the time go and see. If not, stills a good idea and EA should make me their new CEO because I'm sure this will work pretty well.

Not really because the games would need to have the same client engine, witch is not the case, or rewrite a common launcher meaning they would not have wasted time adding environment choice in this one.

If this not a bug and I'm pretty sure it is indeed a bug, then the choice of environment will be to either go to  cash play servers or normal ones, or somehing tied to the subs model.

To he dude Who posted this idea at SWTOR forums and now is getting lot of praises as this was his/her idea...please can you  also say you copied it from HERE. 

Thanks. just to be honest with your self.