it will have the same fate as AoC:

Uhm.

EA said what succes IS themselves:

1+m subs (emphasis on +)

500k is "acceptable result" but FAILURE

below 500k is EPIC FAIL, means free months, laying off people, and, if below enough, maintanance mode.

Its pretty irrelevant what is "success to you", if game is losing money and needs to go to maintanance mode, even if it has "one full server " lol.

In fanboy economics profit = success.

Too bad that in real life economics there is something called opportunity cost.

If i take 5 million dollars, invest them in X company's stock and in 10 years liquidate them for 5.1million (lets ignore inflation for the sake of ease) if am not going to come out to say i was successfull because i made profit, especially when i could have earned say 500k in profit from a 5 year investement. Essentially i would be looking at a -400k Opportunity cost more so if i extrapolated for the remaining 5 years.

Originally posted by potapithikos

In fanboy economics profit = success.

 

Too bad that in real life economics there is something called opportunity cost.

 

If i take 5 million dollars, invest them in X company's stock and in 10 years liquidate them for 5.1million (lets ignore inflation for the sake of ease) if am not going to come out to say i was successfull because i made profit, especially when i could have earned say 500k in profit from a 5 year investement. Essentially i would be looking at a -400k Opportunity cost more so if i extrapolated for the remaining 5 years.

Dont complicate it too much, scope of aerage fanboi is:

"they sold 2m boxes at 60$ so they already got 120m back"

Implications of investing 200m 5 years ago and all the stuff thats invloved in it would probably overheat something...or someone ;P

<p><blockquote><i>Originally posted by mikahr</i><br><br><b><p>Uhm.</p><p>EA said what succes IS themselves:</p><p>1+m subs (emphasis on +)</p><p>500k is "acceptable result" but FAILURE</p><p>below 500k is EPIC FAIL, means free months, laying off people, and, if below enough, maintanance mode.</p><p> </p><p>Its pretty irrelevant what is "success to you", if game is losing money and needs to go to maintanance mode, even if it has "one full server " lol.</p></b></blockquote>

Wow...you couldn't be more wrong...

Here people.. Since everyone has different memories of what was said I'll show you.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/107477-Star-Wars-The-Old-Republic-Profitable-With-500-000-Subs

500k subscribers to be "substantially profitable". Not "epic fail" lol.</p>

Originally posted by Praetalus

 

 

Originally posted by mikahr

Uhm.

EA said what succes IS themselves:

1+m subs (emphasis on +)

500k is "acceptable result" but FAILURE

below 500k is EPIC FAIL, means free months, laying off people, and, if below enough, maintanance mode.

 

Its pretty irrelevant what is "success to you", if game is losing money and needs to go to maintanance mode, even if it has "one full server " lol.

 

 

Wow...you couldn't be more wrong...

Here people.. Since everyone has different memories of what was said I'll show you.

 

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/107477-Star-Wars-The-Old-Republic-Profitable-With-500-000-Subs

500k subscribers to be "substantially profitable". Not "epic fail" lol.

 

You obviously forgot to check date on that article.

Anyway, from THAT article, more than 1 1/2 years ago:

"At half a million subscribers, the game is substantially profitable, but it's not the kind of thing we would write home about," EA CEO John Riccitiello said in a Gamasutra-attended conference call accompanying EA's third quarter fiscal earnings report today. "Anything north of a million subscribers, it's a very profitable business."

You dont get to change what he said even back then, im afraid, you are just have to accept it, and you will have to lear to read WHOLE sentences in the future instead of first few words only.

And i suggest you learn a bit about PR speech.

Let me translate that article without sugar-coated phrases:

"At 500k subs you will get your money back, dont expect anyting more, to get you some money we need AT LEAST 1 million. "

I imagine if it holds 500k --> paying <-- subscribers for 2 years, then it will break even.

I just love how, when anyone presents a dissenting viewpoint, and even when they present evidence for their case, they are automatically called a troll.

Seriously now, if one person says it, you dismiss it. If two people say it, you dismiss it. But when a meme is created because of it, perhaps there is some kernel of truth to the dissent.

Also I ask, which is worse, a troll, or a fanboy who can't see the truth plastered plainly on the wall.

swtor is a turd in a toilet waiting to be flushed.