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Star Wars: The Old Republic Forum » General Discussion » Seems like the game has peaked on XFire

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  RefMinor

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4/27/12 4:01:22 PM#1741
Originally posted by Kaocan
Anyone have any stats on X-Fire yet for GW2?

They are published the next day, about 2pm GMT

  Greyhooff

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4/27/12 6:32:41 PM#1742
Originally posted by Metentso

Enough off-topic!

 

It's difficult now to post the graph, have to save it in PS and upload to tinypic.com...  Before I could just paste it.. ah well... here it is:

 

 

Taking a break at 3000 feet.

Wow is going down btw.

 

And some data:

 
DAY DATE # players % same day prev. week % from max notes
Sunday 01/04/12 3911 -9,53% -66,86%  
Monday 02/04/12 3587 -4,95% -69,60%  
Tuesday 03/04/12 3389 -8,85% -71,28%  
Wednesday 04/04/12 3458 -5,44% -70,69%  
Thursday 05/04/12 3465 -4,76% -70,64%  
Friday 06/04/12 3532 0,68% -70,07% free week end
Saturday 07/04/12 3570 -3,98% -69,75% aprox
Sunday 08/04/12 4009 2,51% -66,03%  
Monday 09/04/12 3539 -1,34% -70,01%  
Tuesday 10/04/12 3329 -1,77% -71,79%  
Wednesday 11/04/12 3371 -2,52% -71,43%  
Thursday 12/04/12 3989 15,12% -66,19% jebus patch
Friday 13/04/12 3836 8,61% -67,49%  
Saturday 14/04/12 4213 18,01% -64,30%  
Sunday 15/04/12 4372 9,05% -62,95%  
Monday 16/04/12 4006 13,20% -66,05%  
Tuesday 17/04/12 3827 14,96% -67,57%  
Wednesday 18/04/12 3904 15,81% -66,92%  
Thursday 19/04/12 3794 -4,89% -67,85%  
Friday 20/04/12 3652 -4,80% -69,05%  
Saturday 21/04/12 3699 -12,20% -68,65%  
Sunday 22/04/12 3840 -12,17% -67,46%  
Monday 23/04/12 3434 -14,28% -70,90%  
Tuesday 24/04/12 3179 -16,93% -73,06% lowest ever
Wednesday 25/04/12 3184 -18,44% -73,02%  
Thursday 26/04/12 3217 -15,21% -72,74%  
 

 

If peak users represented 1.7 million subs, would you say that this current reduction in activity would indicate (not prove) that there are only around 400k subs left in swtor?

  RefMinor

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4/27/12 7:35:47 PM#1743
Originally posted by Greyhooff
Originally posted by Metentso

Enough off-topic!

 

It's difficult now to post the graph, have to save it in PS and upload to tinypic.com...  Before I could just paste it.. ah well... here it is:

 

 

Taking a break at 3000 feet.

Wow is going down btw.

 

And some data:

 
DAY DATE # players % same day prev. week % from max notes
Sunday 01/04/12 3911 -9,53% -66,86%  
Monday 02/04/12 3587 -4,95% -69,60%  
Tuesday 03/04/12 3389 -8,85% -71,28%  
Wednesday 04/04/12 3458 -5,44% -70,69%  
Thursday 05/04/12 3465 -4,76% -70,64%  
Friday 06/04/12 3532 0,68% -70,07% free week end
Saturday 07/04/12 3570 -3,98% -69,75% aprox
Sunday 08/04/12 4009 2,51% -66,03%  
Monday 09/04/12 3539 -1,34% -70,01%  
Tuesday 10/04/12 3329 -1,77% -71,79%  
Wednesday 11/04/12 3371 -2,52% -71,43%  
Thursday 12/04/12 3989 15,12% -66,19% jebus patch
Friday 13/04/12 3836 8,61% -67,49%  
Saturday 14/04/12 4213 18,01% -64,30%  
Sunday 15/04/12 4372 9,05% -62,95%  
Monday 16/04/12 4006 13,20% -66,05%  
Tuesday 17/04/12 3827 14,96% -67,57%  
Wednesday 18/04/12 3904 15,81% -66,92%  
Thursday 19/04/12 3794 -4,89% -67,85%  
Friday 20/04/12 3652 -4,80% -69,05%  
Saturday 21/04/12 3699 -12,20% -68,65%  
Sunday 22/04/12 3840 -12,17% -67,46%  
Monday 23/04/12 3434 -14,28% -70,90%  
Tuesday 24/04/12 3179 -16,93% -73,06% lowest ever
Wednesday 25/04/12 3184 -18,44% -73,02%  
Thursday 26/04/12 3217 -15,21% -72,74%  
 

 

If peak users represented 1.7 million subs, would you say that this current reduction in activity would indicate (not prove) that there are only around 400k subs left in swtor?

That's  a little too simple, at the start more would play daily etc, whatever the level it is stabilising now though. For numbers we need to  wait for EA to present.

  gervaise1

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4/27/12 9:17:13 PM#1744
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If peak users represented 1.7 million subs, would you say that this current reduction in activity would indicate (not prove) that there are only around 400k subs left in swtor?

That's a little too simple, at the start more would play daily etc, whatever the level it is stabilising now though. For numbers we need to wait for EA to present.

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As RefMinor says it isn't that simple.

If it was then yes - but you would have to add "with a margin of error of +/- X%" And comparing what EA have sort of said (mot easy given the wooly nature of their comments) to what XFire showed then +/-20% as a minimum.

But RefMinor is totally correct. This is not a group of XFire users who started playing SWTOR back in December and have gradually left. Some will have started in December, some in January, some in February, some in March on a trial and so on. We have to assume that we have a shifting population.

And the easiest way to do account for this is to make your margin of error bigger; +/- 200k maybe! We simply don't know, or claim to know, how good, the data is. It doesn't appear to be "bad" however. 

 

 

  RefMinor

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4/28/12 6:27:13 AM#1745
Ouch, 2958 on a Friday, looks like the first Salem beta weekend is having an effect, I can't think of any other game recently out that could have such an effect.
  Vrika

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4/28/12 7:22:25 AM#1746
Originally posted by RefMinor
Ouch, 2958 on a Friday, looks like the first Salem beta weekend is having an effect, I can't think of any other game recently out that could have such an effect.

TERA EU headstart launched on Friday.

  gervaise1

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4/28/12 8:04:05 AM#1747

Probably a combination of things. We know from what EA reported that people bought the game in the Christmas to New Year period and that sales continued into January. People who opted for the 3 month sub will have been progressively coming up to their renew or terminate point - and probably terminated in anticipation of EA sending them a come back for free e-mail.

SW buffs are being bombarded by SW Kinnect I suspect; lots of advertising and promotions - same worldwide maybe?

TERA yes for mmo leaning folk maybe; EQ1 went f2p as well. However as a "story driven game" lasting 3 days or a couple of months there are lots options out there that will compete with it; not just mmos. 

The question now: is there a floor for SWTOR? And will EA change there business model?

The decision to run the 7 and 30 day promotions must have been taken with senior - and I suspect EA senior management not just Bioware management - involvement because of the message it sends. And EA must have been able to see the drop coming. Just a case of how bad is it?

  ktanner3

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4/28/12 9:04:23 AM#1748
Originally posted by Kaocan
Anyone have any stats on X-Fire yet for GW2?

After this weekend's fiasco I'm not sure if the GW2 fanboys want that to be displayed on a graph.

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  RefMinor

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4/28/12 9:12:55 AM#1749
Originally posted by Kaocan
Anyone have any stats on X-Fire yet for GW2?

814

http://beta.xfire.com/games/gw2

 

  ktanner3

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4/28/12 9:18:58 AM#1750
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by Kaocan
Anyone have any stats on X-Fire yet for GW2?

814

http://beta.xfire.com/games/gw2

 

Wow. The news just keeps getting better for god's gift to the MMO world.

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  Blackwater56

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4/28/12 11:37:53 AM#1751
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by Kaocan
Anyone have any stats on X-Fire yet for GW2?

814

http://beta.xfire.com/games/gw2

 

Wow. The news just keeps getting better for god's gift to the MMO world.

It was a limited beta weekend. But I think it's really cute that you're trying equate beta numbers as people who are going to buy the game.

Also, quit trying to deflect the fact that SWTORs numbers are at an all time low.

  ktanner3

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4/28/12 11:49:33 AM#1752
Originally posted by Blackwater56
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by Kaocan
Anyone have any stats on X-Fire yet for GW2?

814

http://beta.xfire.com/games/gw2

 

Wow. The news just keeps getting better for god's gift to the MMO world.

It was a limited beta weekend. But I think it's really cute that you're trying equate beta numbers as people who are going to buy the game.

I think it's cute that you created your account two days ago to defend your precious game. So I guess we all our own thrills.

Also, quit trying to deflect the fact that SWTORs numbers are at an all time low.

I'm not the one that brought GW2 up so don't get mad when some of us express our negative views on it. If you're going to express constant negative views on TOR in the TOR forum, then don't get pissy when we express our views about your precious games. Fair is fair.

 

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  FrodoFragins

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4/28/12 11:54:28 AM#1753
I just want to say thanks for the charts and please keep it up!  Or at least keep tracking the daily numbers in a table or something if that's easier. :)
  Blackwater56

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4/28/12 11:56:24 AM#1754
Originally posted by ktanner3

It was a limited beta weekend. But I think it's really cute that you're trying equate beta numbers as people who are going to buy the game.

I think it's cute that you created your account two days ago to defend your precious game. So I guess we all our own thrills.

Also, quit trying to deflect the fact that SWTORs numbers are at an all time low.

I'm not the one that brought GW2 up so don't get mad when some of us express our negative views on it. If you're going to express constant negative views on TOR in the TOR forum, then don't get pissy when we express our views about your precious games. Fair is fair.

 

lol Oh no I created my account recently!!! You're adorable.

 

Difference is, I've PLAYED TOR, you haven't played GW2

  ktanner3

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4/28/12 11:57:53 AM#1755
Originally posted by FrodoFragins
I just want to say thanks for the charts and please keep it up!  Or at least keep tracking the daily numbers in a table or something if that's easier. :)

I agree.

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  ktanner3

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4/28/12 11:59:08 AM#1756
Originally posted by Blackwater56

 

 

Difference is, I've PLAYED TOR, you haven't played GW2

And ? I don't need to play GW2 to know that it isn't for me. 

You might want to save your PR spin for the GW2 forums because right now it's chaos over there.

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  Blackwater56

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4/28/12 12:06:19 PM#1757
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by Blackwater56

 

 

Difference is, I've PLAYED TOR, you haven't played GW2

And ? I don't need to play GW2 to know that it isn't for me. 

You might want to save your PR spin for the GW2 forums because right now it's chaos over there.

AHAHHAHAHHA. Oh god, I can't breath

  fadis

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4/29/12 1:44:47 AM#1758

2958 on 4/27. 

Setting records daily... just not the right kind.

News getting worse and worse...

 

 

  BigLuvin

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4/29/12 2:33:32 AM#1759
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by Blackwater56

 

 

Difference is, I've PLAYED TOR, you haven't played GW2

And ? I don't need to play GW2 to know that it isn't for me. 

You might want to save your PR spin for the GW2 forums because right now it's chaos over there.


It actually looks really fun and it will have something I couldn't get from TOR, massive multiplayer.

  FrodoFragins

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4/29/12 3:46:06 AM#1760

I'm pretty shocked that BW hasn't been able to crank out cross server group finders and rated battlegrounds.  I think this game is just another addition to the case study of big MMOs that released incomplete.  And since they don't have them even now, they are totally hosing themselves as once they're added, many of the people that were waiting for that functionality may have latched on to GW2, TERA, D3 or TSW.

 

This game actually has a solid foundation, but I don't see how they can stop the inevitable loss of susbcribers.  A couple of months ago I figured I'd jump back as soon as they added multiplayer space sim style combat.  I'm not sure that's the case anymore.

 

 

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