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  Monorojo

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Joined: 6/19/08
Posts: 422

4/13/12 9:00:43 PM#201
Originally posted by Kakkzooka

This is a plan to pad the numbers when they present to their investors.

Do you guys honestly think investors are less in sync with what is going on than people on this message board? This ploy can't work on some disgruntled mmo players but it can work on people with millions and millions of dollars? Really?

 

So not only do you all have this asinane hate in your heart for a decent company like bioware, but you also have this incredible superiority complex?

 

Here is a hint folks. It is not a ploy. It is a sincere thank you to their fans. Crazy huh?

  Rhoklaw

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Posts: 2981

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4/13/12 9:09:34 PM#202
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Kakkzooka

This is a plan to pad the numbers when they present to their investors.

Do you guys honestly think investors are less in sync with what is going on than people on this message board? This ploy can't work on some disgruntled mmo players but it can work on people with millions and millions of dollars? Really?

 

So not only do you all have this asinane hate in your heart for a decent company like bioware, but you also have this incredible superiority complex?

 

Here is a hint folks. It is not a ploy. It is a sincere thank you to their fans. Crazy huh?

Those people with millions and millions of dollars probably have no clue what an MMO is, let alone a subscription, so yes. Rich people see numbers, thats it.

  dontadow

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Joined: 12/29/03
Posts: 1045

4/13/12 9:14:01 PM#203
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Kakkzooka

This is a plan to pad the numbers when they present to their investors.

Do you guys honestly think investors are less in sync with what is going on than people on this message board? This ploy can't work on some disgruntled mmo players but it can work on people with millions and millions of dollars? Really?

 

So not only do you all have this asinane hate in your heart for a decent company like bioware, but you also have this incredible superiority complex?

 

Here is a hint folks. It is not a ploy. It is a sincere thank you to their fans. Crazy huh?

Sigh, Most people who own EA stock probably don't even know what EA does. It's a strong selling stock in a lusicious portfolio.  They care about numbers. EA has such and such amount of sbuscriptions which equals an estimated so much money.  That's what is important. 

They aren't the only ones padding their numbers for the Spring Quarter, Rift is doing the same thing and its probably the reason why Tera is allowing betas to go straight to reality. 

  Monorojo

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Joined: 6/19/08
Posts: 422

4/13/12 9:16:03 PM#204
Originally posted by Rhoklaw
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Kakkzooka

This is a plan to pad the numbers when they present to their investors.

Do you guys honestly think investors are less in sync with what is going on than people on this message board? This ploy can't work on some disgruntled mmo players but it can work on people with millions and millions of dollars? Really?

 

So not only do you all have this asinane hate in your heart for a decent company like bioware, but you also have this incredible superiority complex?

 

Here is a hint folks. It is not a ploy. It is a sincere thank you to their fans. Crazy huh?

Those people with millions and millions of dollars probably have no clue what an MMO is, let alone a subscription, so yes. Rich people see numbers, thats it.

Completely and totally wrong statement. Rich people know what they invest in or wouldnt be that way in the first place. If you invest in EA, you know the market. If you pay someone to invest in EA, the people you pay know the market that EA is in.

 

This is not a hard concept people. I'm still amazed everyone here thinks they are so clever for figuring out this ploy, yet those invested won't be able to themselves. Really folks? Think for a second before posting in the future PLEASE. This is getting utterly pathetic.

  Whiskey_Sam

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Joined: 1/13/12
Posts: 275

Nemo me impune lacessit.

4/13/12 9:24:45 PM#205
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Kakkzooka

This is a plan to pad the numbers when they present to their investors.

Do you guys honestly think investors are less in sync with what is going on than people on this message board? This ploy can't work on some disgruntled mmo players but it can work on people with millions and millions of dollars? Really?

 

So not only do you all have this asinane hate in your heart for a decent company like bioware, but you also have this incredible superiority complex?

 

Here is a hint folks. It is not a ploy. It is a sincere thank you to their fans. Crazy huh?

A) It's asinine.

B) Why would a sincere thank you to their fans arbitrarily exclude some portion of players who have been subscribing since day one?  A sincere thank you would apply to all of their long-time subscribers.  You pick a subset for other reasons...like trying to pad your numbers without making them become completely unrealistic and thus suspicious.

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  Monorojo

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Posts: 422

4/13/12 9:30:26 PM#206
Originally posted by Whiskey_Sam
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Kakkzooka

This is a plan to pad the numbers when they present to their investors.

Do you guys honestly think investors are less in sync with what is going on than people on this message board? This ploy can't work on some disgruntled mmo players but it can work on people with millions and millions of dollars? Really?

 

So not only do you all have this asinane hate in your heart for a decent company like bioware, but you also have this incredible superiority complex?

 

Here is a hint folks. It is not a ploy. It is a sincere thank you to their fans. Crazy huh?

A) It's asinine.

B) Why would a sincere thank you to their fans arbitrarily exclude some portion of players who have been subscribing since day one?  A sincere thank you would apply to all of their long-time subscribers.  You pick a subset for other reasons...like trying to pad your numbers without making them become completely unrealistic and thus suspicious.

You know how hard it is to be subbed from this game from day 1 and not have legacy level 6? We are talking about a hypothetical that makes up at most  a significantly small percentage of the overall fanbase. They are going to reward those that have been playing, not those that have been subbed and not playing. Very simple, reward the ACTUAL FANS.

  Whiskey_Sam

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Joined: 1/13/12
Posts: 275

Nemo me impune lacessit.

4/13/12 9:36:39 PM#207
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Whiskey_Sam
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Kakkzooka

This is a plan to pad the numbers when they present to their investors.

Do you guys honestly think investors are less in sync with what is going on than people on this message board? This ploy can't work on some disgruntled mmo players but it can work on people with millions and millions of dollars? Really?

 

So not only do you all have this asinane hate in your heart for a decent company like bioware, but you also have this incredible superiority complex?

 

Here is a hint folks. It is not a ploy. It is a sincere thank you to their fans. Crazy huh?

A) It's asinine.

B) Why would a sincere thank you to their fans arbitrarily exclude some portion of players who have been subscribing since day one?  A sincere thank you would apply to all of their long-time subscribers.  You pick a subset for other reasons...like trying to pad your numbers without making them become completely unrealistic and thus suspicious.

You know how hard it is to be subbed from this game from day 1 and not have legacy level 6? We are talking about a hypothetical that makes up at most  a significantly small percentage of the overall fanbase. They are going to reward those that have been playing, not those that have been subbed and not playing. Very simple, reward the ACTUAL FANS.

Their original plan only rewarded people with 50s.  Why?  If you want to sincerely thank your fans, you just reward anyone who has stayed subscribed.  Who cares what level their toons are?  You only care if you're looking to create a smaller subset or you have vapor lock and don't have any forethought about the ramifications of what you're doing.

That game must be pretty amazing for all the time you've spent posting instead of playing it tonight.

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  Deewe

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Posts: 1976

4/13/12 9:41:13 PM#208
Originally posted by Whiskey_Sam
Originally posted by Deewe

People who either re-rolled on more busy servers or slow paced players are still screwed. Oh well yeah they can have no life for the whole next week and hit the mark.

 

This is just embarrassing.  It looks like one of two things: either they cannot figure out something as simple as reward all your customers who have stayed paid-up subscribers the whole time (and keep screwing it up by making it more and more complex than it needs to be), or they are nakedly trying to pad their sub numbers before the earnings report and don't really give a crap about their subscribers (throwing a token bone here to silence the outrage).  Neither puts them in a positive light.

Also noted that they are giving 7 days of free time to returning players.

So even if you left you are getting more than what the more casual gamers are getting.

 

 

 

 

 

Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by Deewe
Originally posted by spookydom

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=410458

 **snip** 

Yup! Time for people to zoom to end game within a week, and then quit shortly afterwards.

They still should have granted the 30 days to those who have subbed constantly from the start, or stay subbed for at least 90 days solid, then that would encourage people to quit (unsub) less

 

Indeed that would have been much more accepted.

 

Now get ready to read a post from BioWare stating how the 1.2 was welcomed and increased the subs.

 

I don't get how they can be so clueless, seriously that's disappointing for the least.

 

 

  Monorojo

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Joined: 6/19/08
Posts: 422

4/13/12 9:42:32 PM#209
Originally posted by Whiskey_Sam
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Whiskey_Sam
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Kakkzooka

This is a plan to pad the numbers when they present to their investors.

Do you guys honestly think investors are less in sync with what is going on than people on this message board? This ploy can't work on some disgruntled mmo players but it can work on people with millions and millions of dollars? Really?

 

So not only do you all have this asinane hate in your heart for a decent company like bioware, but you also have this incredible superiority complex?

 

Here is a hint folks. It is not a ploy. It is a sincere thank you to their fans. Crazy huh?

A) It's asinine.

B) Why would a sincere thank you to their fans arbitrarily exclude some portion of players who have been subscribing since day one?  A sincere thank you would apply to all of their long-time subscribers.  You pick a subset for other reasons...like trying to pad your numbers without making them become completely unrealistic and thus suspicious.

You know how hard it is to be subbed from this game from day 1 and not have legacy level 6? We are talking about a hypothetical that makes up at most  a significantly small percentage of the overall fanbase. They are going to reward those that have been playing, not those that have been subbed and not playing. Very simple, reward the ACTUAL FANS.

Their original plan only rewarded people with 50s.  Why?  If you want to sincerely thank your fans, you just reward anyone who has stayed subscribed.  Who cares what level their toons are?  You only care if you're looking to create a smaller subset or you have vapor lock and don't have any forethought about the ramifications of what you're doing.

That game must be pretty amazing for all the time you've spent posting instead of playing it tonight.

Again, it is called multitasking people. Im literally playing as a type right now.

 

Also, they did the lvl 50 idea to reward the actual fans who were playing. After  listening to their fans reaction to this, they fix the mistake. How is extending the subset attempting to a create a smaller one? That is completely backwards logic.

  Dahkot72

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Joined: 7/16/11
Posts: 274

4/13/12 9:43:09 PM#210
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Whiskey_Sam
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Kakkzooka

This is a plan to pad the numbers when they present to their investors.

Do you guys honestly think investors are less in sync with what is going on than people on this message board? This ploy can't work on some disgruntled mmo players but it can work on people with millions and millions of dollars? Really?

 

So not only do you all have this asinane hate in your heart for a decent company like bioware, but you also have this incredible superiority complex?

 

Here is a hint folks. It is not a ploy. It is a sincere thank you to their fans. Crazy huh?

A) It's asinine.

B) Why would a sincere thank you to their fans arbitrarily exclude some portion of players who have been subscribing since day one?  A sincere thank you would apply to all of their long-time subscribers.  You pick a subset for other reasons...like trying to pad your numbers without making them become completely unrealistic and thus suspicious.

You know how hard it is to be subbed from this game from day 1 and not have legacy level 6? We are talking about a hypothetical that makes up at most  a significantly small percentage of the overall fanbase. They are going to reward those that have been playing, not those that have been subbed and not playing. Very simple, reward the ACTUAL FANS.

So basically you saying the following player is not  a fan (taken from the official forums from a former rather dedicated Bioware/SWTOR player).

This player , has a 30 something on a RP-PVP server to play with their former guild some.

A 20 something on a PVE server helping a new mmorpg player friend.

Two low 30's on a RP server to play , slowly taking in the scenery type deal on an RP server (lots of RP folks played this way).

And wait for it , they have a low 30's on the test server to gasp, help test content.

 

Yes , I can see how not giving said player 30 free days makes sense. Obviously not an actual fan.

 

 

 

 

  Monorojo

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Joined: 6/19/08
Posts: 422

4/13/12 9:45:42 PM#211

You all realzie that you have until the 22nd of this month to get 50 or legacy 6 right to get the free sub? So they are even giving people an extra 10 days to meet the criteria.

 

How many of you that are complainging about this are actually in the situation of these hypothetical group of folks that have been subbed since launch and do not meet the criteria?

 

If so, why don't you go play now to go meet the criteria?

 

A lot of white knights on here huh? Oh wait, you guys are all just disgruntled ex-players who have nothing better to do than moan and complain atm. Come on guys, life has so much more to offer you.

  Monorojo

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Joined: 6/19/08
Posts: 422

4/13/12 9:46:31 PM#212
Originally posted by Dahkot72
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Whiskey_Sam
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Kakkzooka

This is a plan to pad the numbers when they present to their investors.

Do you guys honestly think investors are less in sync with what is going on than people on this message board? This ploy can't work on some disgruntled mmo players but it can work on people with millions and millions of dollars? Really?

 

So not only do you all have this asinane hate in your heart for a decent company like bioware, but you also have this incredible superiority complex?

 

Here is a hint folks. It is not a ploy. It is a sincere thank you to their fans. Crazy huh?

A) It's asinine.

B) Why would a sincere thank you to their fans arbitrarily exclude some portion of players who have been subscribing since day one?  A sincere thank you would apply to all of their long-time subscribers.  You pick a subset for other reasons...like trying to pad your numbers without making them become completely unrealistic and thus suspicious.

You know how hard it is to be subbed from this game from day 1 and not have legacy level 6? We are talking about a hypothetical that makes up at most  a significantly small percentage of the overall fanbase. They are going to reward those that have been playing, not those that have been subbed and not playing. Very simple, reward the ACTUAL FANS.

So basically you saying the following player is not  a fan (taken from the official forums from a former rather dedicated Bioware/SWTOR player).

This player , has a 30 something on a RP-PVP server to play with their former guild some.

A 20 something on a PVE server helping a new mmorpg player friend.

Two low 30's on a RP server to play , slowly taking in the scenery type deal on an RP server (lots of RP folks played this way).

And wait for it , they have a low 30's on the test server to gasp, help test content.

 

Yes , I can see how not giving said player 30 free days makes sense. Obviously not an actual fan.

 

 

 

 

LMAO at these hpyotheticals again.

  Deewe

Novice Member

Joined: 5/02/08
Posts: 1976

4/13/12 9:48:07 PM#213
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Whiskey_Sam
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Kakkzooka

This is a plan to pad the numbers when they present to their investors.

Do you guys honestly think investors are less in sync with what is going on than people on this message board? This ploy can't work on some disgruntled mmo players but it can work on people with millions and millions of dollars? Really?

 

So not only do you all have this asinane hate in your heart for a decent company like bioware, but you also have this incredible superiority complex?

 

Here is a hint folks. It is not a ploy. It is a sincere thank you to their fans. Crazy huh?

A) It's asinine.

B) Why would a sincere thank you to their fans arbitrarily exclude some portion of players who have been subscribing since day one?  A sincere thank you would apply to all of their long-time subscribers.  You pick a subset for other reasons...like trying to pad your numbers without making them become completely unrealistic and thus suspicious.

You know how hard it is to be subbed from this game from day 1 and not have legacy level 6? We are talking about a hypothetical that makes up at most  a significantly small percentage of the overall fanbase. They are going to reward those that have been playing, not those that have been subbed and not playing. Very simple, reward the ACTUAL FANS.

Look I've been there since beta my main is 47, my second alt 20 and my third 15.

Not only I don't have that much time to level my chars but I stopped levelling my alts when I discovered I was about to get screwed with having pre-levelled alts before 1.2.

Then I took levelling my main very slowly either because I knew there was no content post level 50.

I've been subbed since day one, kept my sub running supporting the game whenever it was and still is bugged and see the result.

I'm legacy 4 and well now I'm supposed to grind to legacy 6 in one week to be "rewarded"?

 

(Edit) and being a fan does not means you have the luxury to spent that much hours playing the game a week.

 

  Whiskey_Sam

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Joined: 1/13/12
Posts: 275

Nemo me impune lacessit.

4/13/12 9:50:14 PM#214
Originally posted by Monorojo
Again, it is called multitasking people. Im literally playing as a type right now.

 

Also, they did the lvl 50 idea to reward the actual fans who were playing. After  listening to their fans reaction to this, they fix the mistake. How is extending the subset attempting to a create a smaller one? That is completely backwards logic.

Multitasking?  Doesn't sound like the game requires much effort if you can play it while camping threads here.  Amazing!

The backwards logic is not understanding a very simple matter: level 50 players are not all of your actual fans.  You're telling me for a company than runs its mouth every chance it gets about how many metrics they have and how they know everything about everything that happens in their game they didn't know a substantial proportion of their long-paying customers didn't have level 50 characters?  Again, this is not a complex concept: if you want to reward your fans who were playing, you reward fans who are playing regardless of their level, not some arbitrarily picked subset of them.  

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  Monorojo

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Joined: 6/19/08
Posts: 422

4/13/12 9:51:34 PM#215
Originally posted by Deewe
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Whiskey_Sam
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Kakkzooka

This is a plan to pad the numbers when they present to their investors.

Do you guys honestly think investors are less in sync with what is going on than people on this message board? This ploy can't work on some disgruntled mmo players but it can work on people with millions and millions of dollars? Really?

 

So not only do you all have this asinane hate in your heart for a decent company like bioware, but you also have this incredible superiority complex?

 

Here is a hint folks. It is not a ploy. It is a sincere thank you to their fans. Crazy huh?

A) It's asinine.

B) Why would a sincere thank you to their fans arbitrarily exclude some portion of players who have been subscribing since day one?  A sincere thank you would apply to all of their long-time subscribers.  You pick a subset for other reasons...like trying to pad your numbers without making them become completely unrealistic and thus suspicious.

You know how hard it is to be subbed from this game from day 1 and not have legacy level 6? We are talking about a hypothetical that makes up at most  a significantly small percentage of the overall fanbase. They are going to reward those that have been playing, not those that have been subbed and not playing. Very simple, reward the ACTUAL FANS.

Look I've been there since beta my main is 47, my second alt 20 and my third 15.

Not only I don't have that much time to level my chars but I stopped levelling my alts when I discovered I was about to get screwed with having pre-levelled alts before 1.2.

Then I took levelling my main very slowly either because I knew there was no content post level 50.

I've been subbed since day one, kept my sub running supporting the game whenever it was and still is bugged and see the result.

I'm legacy 4 and well now I'm supposed to grind to legacy 6 in one week to be "rewarded"?

 

(Edit) and being a fan does not means you have the luxury to spent that much hours playing the game a week.

 

Grinding two legacy levels will literally take you a few hours. Go ahead and do that and get this incredibly generous gift they are offering. Or don't, stop crying and don't blame anyone but yourself.

 

Also it is not really grinding when you are actually progressing your characters through their story...unless you want to classify everything in any MMO ever as grinding...

  Whiskey_Sam

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/13/12
Posts: 275

Nemo me impune lacessit.

4/13/12 9:52:32 PM#216
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Dahkot72
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Whiskey_Sam
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Kakkzooka

This is a plan to pad the numbers when they present to their investors.

Do you guys honestly think investors are less in sync with what is going on than people on this message board? This ploy can't work on some disgruntled mmo players but it can work on people with millions and millions of dollars? Really?

 

So not only do you all have this asinane hate in your heart for a decent company like bioware, but you also have this incredible superiority complex?

 

Here is a hint folks. It is not a ploy. It is a sincere thank you to their fans. Crazy huh?

A) It's asinine.

B) Why would a sincere thank you to their fans arbitrarily exclude some portion of players who have been subscribing since day one?  A sincere thank you would apply to all of their long-time subscribers.  You pick a subset for other reasons...like trying to pad your numbers without making them become completely unrealistic and thus suspicious.

You know how hard it is to be subbed from this game from day 1 and not have legacy level 6? We are talking about a hypothetical that makes up at most  a significantly small percentage of the overall fanbase. They are going to reward those that have been playing, not those that have been subbed and not playing. Very simple, reward the ACTUAL FANS.

So basically you saying the following player is not  a fan (taken from the official forums from a former rather dedicated Bioware/SWTOR player).

This player , has a 30 something on a RP-PVP server to play with their former guild some.

A 20 something on a PVE server helping a new mmorpg player friend.

Two low 30's on a RP server to play , slowly taking in the scenery type deal on an RP server (lots of RP folks played this way).

And wait for it , they have a low 30's on the test server to gasp, help test content.

 

Yes , I can see how not giving said player 30 free days makes sense. Obviously not an actual fan.

 

 

 

 

LMAO at these hpyotheticals again.

That's not a hypothetical, it's an actual client.  You do know what hypothetical means, right?

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  Monorojo

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Joined: 6/19/08
Posts: 422

4/13/12 9:54:30 PM#217
Originally posted by Whiskey_Sam
Originally posted by Monorojo
Again, it is called multitasking people. Im literally playing as a type right now.

 

Also, they did the lvl 50 idea to reward the actual fans who were playing. After  listening to their fans reaction to this, they fix the mistake. How is extending the subset attempting to a create a smaller one? That is completely backwards logic.

Multitasking?  Doesn't sound like the game requires much effort if you can play it while camping threads here.  Amazing!

The backwards logic is not understanding a very simple matter: level 50 players are not all of your actual fans.  You're telling me for a company than runs its mouth every chance it gets about how many metrics they have and how they know everything about everything that happens in their game they didn't know a substantial proportion of their long-paying customers didn't have level 50 characters?  Again, this is not a complex concept: if you want to reward your fans who were playing, you reward fans who are playing regardless of their level, not some arbitrarily picked subset of them.  

When I used to play WoW, i downed LK Hard Mode (with the 30% debuff) while posting on forums and playing halo with my friends on the side. Im really good at multitasking.

 

And  you seem to missed the part where you don't have to be 50 anymore. And you get until the 22nd (10 extra days) to meet the criteria. You are literally crying over a game you hate offering their fanbase free things, trying to play white knight. Go level up that 10th wow toon to 85 instead maybe eh?

  Monorojo

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Joined: 6/19/08
Posts: 422

4/13/12 9:55:17 PM#218
Originally posted by Whiskey_Sam
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Dahkot72
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Whiskey_Sam
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Kakkzooka

This is a plan to pad the numbers when they present to their investors.

Do you guys honestly think investors are less in sync with what is going on than people on this message board? This ploy can't work on some disgruntled mmo players but it can work on people with millions and millions of dollars? Really?

 

So not only do you all have this asinane hate in your heart for a decent company like bioware, but you also have this incredible superiority complex?

 

Here is a hint folks. It is not a ploy. It is a sincere thank you to their fans. Crazy huh?

A) It's asinine.

B) Why would a sincere thank you to their fans arbitrarily exclude some portion of players who have been subscribing since day one?  A sincere thank you would apply to all of their long-time subscribers.  You pick a subset for other reasons...like trying to pad your numbers without making them become completely unrealistic and thus suspicious.

You know how hard it is to be subbed from this game from day 1 and not have legacy level 6? We are talking about a hypothetical that makes up at most  a significantly small percentage of the overall fanbase. They are going to reward those that have been playing, not those that have been subbed and not playing. Very simple, reward the ACTUAL FANS.

So basically you saying the following player is not  a fan (taken from the official forums from a former rather dedicated Bioware/SWTOR player).

This player , has a 30 something on a RP-PVP server to play with their former guild some.

A 20 something on a PVE server helping a new mmorpg player friend.

Two low 30's on a RP server to play , slowly taking in the scenery type deal on an RP server (lots of RP folks played this way).

And wait for it , they have a low 30's on the test server to gasp, help test content.

 

Yes , I can see how not giving said player 30 free days makes sense. Obviously not an actual fan.

 

 

 

 

LMAO at these hpyotheticals again.

That's not a hypothetical, it's an actual client.  You do know what hypothetical means, right?

Link to this actual person? Do you not understand that people in this scenerio make up less than 1% of those that have been subbed from the beginning? And should be punished anyway for being completely ignorant on how legacy system works in the first place?

 

Keep white knighting tho. Looks good on you lol

  Whiskey_Sam

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Posts: 275

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4/13/12 10:00:10 PM#219
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Whiskey_Sam
Originally posted by Monorojo
Again, it is called multitasking people. Im literally playing as a type right now.

 

Also, they did the lvl 50 idea to reward the actual fans who were playing. After  listening to their fans reaction to this, they fix the mistake. How is extending the subset attempting to a create a smaller one? That is completely backwards logic.

Multitasking?  Doesn't sound like the game requires much effort if you can play it while camping threads here.  Amazing!

The backwards logic is not understanding a very simple matter: level 50 players are not all of your actual fans.  You're telling me for a company than runs its mouth every chance it gets about how many metrics they have and how they know everything about everything that happens in their game they didn't know a substantial proportion of their long-paying customers didn't have level 50 characters?  Again, this is not a complex concept: if you want to reward your fans who were playing, you reward fans who are playing regardless of their level, not some arbitrarily picked subset of them.  

When I used to play WoW, i downed LK Hard Mode (with the 30% debuff) while posting on forums and playing halo with my friends on the side. Im really good at multitasking.

 

And  you seem to missed the part where you don't have to be 50 anymore. And you get until the 22nd (10 extra days) to meet the criteria. You are literally crying over a game you hate offering their fanbase free things, trying to play white knight. Go level up that 10th wow toon to 85 instead maybe eh?

No, I didn't miss it.  It's irrelevant because it doesn't explain why they picked 50s only in the first place.  And why extend it to just level 6 Legacy instead of all long-term customers?  Same principle; still arbitrary.  Nice try with the continued insults, though.  Keep flailing, you may get something to stick eventually.  The only white knighting is your undying devotion to Bioware, Mrs Ohlen.

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4/13/12 10:00:18 PM#220
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Whiskey_Sam
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Dahkot72
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Whiskey_Sam
Originally posted by Monorojo
Originally posted by Kakkzooka

This is a plan to pad the numbers when they present to their investors.

Do you guys honestly think investors are less in sync with what is going on than people on this message board? This ploy can't work on some disgruntled mmo players but it can work on people with millions and millions of dollars? Really?

 

So not only do you all have this asinane hate in your heart for a decent company like bioware, but you also have this incredible superiority complex?

 

Here is a hint folks. It is not a ploy. It is a sincere thank you to their fans. Crazy huh?

A) It's asinine.

B) Why would a sincere thank you to their fans arbitrarily exclude some portion of players who have been subscribing since day one?  A sincere thank you would apply to all of their long-time subscribers.  You pick a subset for other reasons...like trying to pad your numbers without making them become completely unrealistic and thus suspicious.

You know how hard it is to be subbed from this game from day 1 and not have legacy level 6? We are talking about a hypothetical that makes up at most  a significantly small percentage of the overall fanbase. They are going to reward those that have been playing, not those that have been subbed and not playing. Very simple, reward the ACTUAL FANS.

So basically you saying the following player is not  a fan (taken from the official forums from a former rather dedicated Bioware/SWTOR player).

This player , has a 30 something on a RP-PVP server to play with their former guild some.

A 20 something on a PVE server helping a new mmorpg player friend.

Two low 30's on a RP server to play , slowly taking in the scenery type deal on an RP server (lots of RP folks played this way).

And wait for it , they have a low 30's on the test server to gasp, help test content.

 

Yes , I can see how not giving said player 30 free days makes sense. Obviously not an actual fan.

 

 

 

 

LMAO at these hpyotheticals again.

That's not a hypothetical, it's an actual client.  You do know what hypothetical means, right?

Link to this actual person? Do you not understand that people in this scenerio make up less than 1% of those that have been subbed from the beginning? And should be punished anyway for being completely ignorant on how legacy system works in the first place?

 

Keep white knighting tho. Looks good on you lol

 

There we go folks, intelligence at it's best.

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