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let's see if it takes you longer than 5 seconds to figure this one out:
this is the one and only reason he was banned from the forums. it's not even the fact that he abused the reputation system, which i find is a stupid system anyway because it causes people to do stuff like this.. but having multiple forum accounts is not allowed considering signing up for beta is done using the name of your forum account. having more than one forum account means you can sign up for beta multiple times to increase your chances of getting into beta. so once i saw this, i just showed this pic to one of the mods, they checked the IPs on his alts and saw they were the same, and presto.. banned.
yes, i agree the forum moderators are strict. in fact, i agree they are even too strict at times (i'm thinking of one or two mods in particular). but their strictness lies in the fact that they seem too quick to lock threads.. although i would say most of them probably do need to be locked, as they clearly violate the forum rules (bashing other games is a common one), but there are a few for which i've thought otherwise. however, as far as i can tell they haven't been permabanning anyone unless it was legitimate (btw, ghoul is one of this guy's alts, and i'm pretty sure his main account was only temp banned since i have a pretty good idea who it is, and no i didn't have to do any digging at all to decide that). honestly though, i'd rather them be a little too strict and lock a few too many threads than to have the MO forums turn into another forumfall.
and no, i won't deny that i happen to talk with the devs and some of the mods on a regular basis, so i suppose there may be some favoritism going on.. but seriously? any community where the mods/devs actively talk with members of the community is going to have some favoritism. however, that doesn't somehow make me above the rules of the forums.. in fact, if you notice i have an infraction on the forums (for a pretty silly reason i might add). so sure, there is some favoritism going on.. hell, some of the irc/forum mods are in my guild so even if they try to remain objective, there will no doubt be some bias.. but that's not unique to the MO forums. some level of bias is pretty much inevitable within any community where someone in power interacts on a social level with the community members. no, it's not some conspiracy.. and it's definitely not as out of control as you seem to think.
oh, and i'm not a "she" for the record. i thought the lecherous, half-naked woman in my sig would have given that away, but i guess it seems to have the opposite effect since i get that a lot. :\
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tl:dr except for when u admitted favoritism +1.. also 3 of 4 posts u circled had troll in them (common forum phrase) 2 of 4 have ghoul in them..I wouldn't go as far a complain (clearly you do give a shit about your rep if you complained, your previous comments negate this ideology against not caring you seemed to have created for this specific argument) about that first of all and second that isn't close to any proof that that is that same guy. Only in two..perhaps... Course that's enough to get the fascist stjudas and co. all erect and banning whoever you please.. Draconian Modding/Favoritism Proven, gameplay won't be any different... |
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There is no SamCoarse on the MO forums. Why is it you are afraid to use the same forum name? Are you Ghoul31? Don't want to take responsibility for your posts? Or are you banned as well? "nerf rock, paper is working as intended." - Scissors. |
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Originally posted by Die_Scream
quick look at the members list there is no ghoul31, there are 2 ghouls and they are both not banned...so want to stfu and stop blindly trolling instead of realizing there is a problem... lachy ur story isnt holding help either if your main culprit never existed.. |
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Originally posted by SamCoarse
quick look at the members list there is no ghoul31, there are 2 ghouls and they are both not banned...so want to stfu and stop blindly trolling instead of realizing there is a problem... lachy ur story isnt holding help either if your main culprit never existed.. lol, more assuptions ftw. people who are banned don't appear in the members list. my story holds up because if you notice, 3 of those negative reps occurred within 4 minutes of each other, so any idiot would notice that it's more than likely the same person (although i guess that's why you're having so much trouble grasping it). the best part is that i don't care. even if i did care about negative reputation (i get it all the time, and i've never once complained about it, so no i don't care), that wouldn't be a reason for me to complain in this case because ghoul obviously has no idea how the rep system works because i didn't even get negative rep from him, just hurtful comments. :(
no, this does not prove 100% that it was the same person, but let's just call it a hunch that when the mods said "thank you for bringing this to our attention, the situation has been taken care of," and i looked to see ghoul31 banned from the forums, i was able to put 2 and 2 together (and not surprisingly, i got 4!). lol @ this entire thread.
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Originally posted by SamCoarse haha, oh... and i am forced to agree with you there. if there is such favoritism on the forums though, believe me it's not coming from him.
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Originally posted by ghoul31
I can name a small company that has pulled off not 1 but 3 successfull MMORPG's. Turbine. Not only did they make Asheron's Call but they went on to make D&D Online but they went on to make Lord of the Rings Online which was just voted by MMORPG.Com viewers as the best MMO for the year 2008, and Turbine was voted Best MMO Dev for 2008. It goes to show that you cant judge a MMO Dev by how many employees they have. "Possibly we humans can exist without actually having to fight. But many of us have chosen to fight. For what reason? To protect something? Protect what? Ourselves? The future? If we kill people to protect ourselves and this future, then what sort of future is it, and what will we have become? There is no future for those who have died. And what of those who did the killing? Is happiness to be found in a future that is grasped with blood stained hands? Is that the truth?" |
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Is it just me or does the last post before the thread was locked seem really cocky? "Dear OP, if you had taken some of your time to actually read about the game. Done your homework on whos creating the game and spent hours on reading swedish text with a dictionary on the little nifty pdf's, instead of posting that question. You could then see the radiance of this game that seeps out from the backlight of your screen , pulsating and mindbobbling combat that would leave the geeks screaming in pleasure." To me it seems like a real **** move to go and ban someone because they want solid proof the game won't fail, nobody can tell the future and if you can't handle the fact that some people may have doubts in the game's future success (due to other companies in the same boat as them) you shouldn't be in game development.
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Originally posted by akiira69
I can name a small company that has pulled off not 1 but 3 successfull MMORPG's. Turbine. Not only did they make Asheron's Call but they went on to make D&D Online but they went on to make Lord of the Rings Online which was just voted by MMORPG.Com viewers as the best MMO for the year 2008, and Turbine was voted Best MMO Dev for 2008. It goes to show that you cant judge a MMO Dev by how many employees they have.
There's also EVE online...One of the most successful PvP MMO's ever. |
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I helped over 300 new players in EvE, how many did you help ? |
ppl should make more sensible questions and see how dev's respond want to try eve-online ? i help you-join eve university,L2P-basic guide if you want to understand EvE-Online |
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Little information for everyone: users lightsaber and lachrymose are both dedicated fanboys at MO forum and part of their inbred community. This group receives special treatment above all other users and are also above the rules.
People also get banned for nothing like the threadstarter has thanks to totally amateurish forum moderation.
Don't be surprised if you see corruptness and favoring after the game is live. |
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Originally posted by dfan Yeah... I agree! Both of those guys are getting special treatment! Damn them! They are evil! *shakes fist* |
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i never gave negative rep to anyone. I never even used the rep sytem since I wasn't even aware of it. So to say I was banned for abusing the rep system is ridiculous. The fact that lachrymoseQQ spends her free time trying to get people banned from the forum is just really sad.
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Originally posted by ghoul31
So someone is impersonate you then if you look at lachrymoses picture? Is it a great conspiracy of the community and the master plan was getting you banned? Besides it was proven you were abusing the rep system and created multi accounts so stop lying. |
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Originally posted by Torgrim Ok, i stand corrected. I did make that first post about him trolling my post because that was exactly what he was doing. I left my name ghoul31 to let him know. For that other post it looks like someone was defending me and so said they love ghoul, cus they agreed with my post. They didn't even get my name right. My name is ghoul31 not ghoul. So obviously that person wasn't me. But lachrymoseQQ thought that other person was me so he used his clout with the mods to get me banned for life. Thats really lame.
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Originally posted by ghoul31 First of all, I'd call the thread you made ( www.mortalonline.com/forums/5774-do-you-really-have-any-hope-game.html ) a trolling attempt and Lachrymose's reply was not at all uncalled for. If you had done any research on the game and figured out what they are doing differently compared to the games you listed, then you should have realised there was really no need for that thread in the first place.
And now you are suggesting that suddenly 4 days after you made that thread some random person came along, gave Lachry negative rep for the very same post and then went through the trouble of creating 2 more forum accounts in order to give him even more negative rep for some random posts? And that someone just happened to be so effectionate towards you to leave "<3 GHOUL" as a comment?
I don't know, to me that just sounds rather unlikely. But in the case that it is true, the thread you made is still stupid. I wouldn't perma ban someone for it if I were a mod, but I certainly don't feel the community lost a valuable member. No offense. |
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Originally posted by L1ghtsabeR
No, it looks like 2 or 3 seperate people made those other posts.. The sad part is that the other people didn't even give him negative rep. If you look at the picture, the squares on the left side are gray. That means neutral rep I believe. The square to the left of mine is red, meaning I gave him negative rep. If I had created alt accounts to give him negative rep, I would have actually given him negative rep, not neutral rep. So that proves that those other posts weren't mine.
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Get off your high horses everyone.
TC did nothing wrong in that post. If he didn't respond to the thread in a faster manner so what its not like its aim its there for many to read.
He should not have been banned, if the moderator thought that the post was flaming or bashing the game he could have PMed the TC. By this alone it just screams MO is going to be another "Praise <said person>" game. No do not support the forum ban. Claiming he did something wrong makes it seem as if the devs/monderators of that game can do no wrong. He has a right to get an answer from them. A simple link is all that was needed, and then the mod could have closed the thread.
The way they did it shows they have absolutly no idea how to deal with customers. Customers are not always smart, they may not have the resources to find said material. Or have the ability to do it them selfs. Thus that is the role of the company to supply information to the customer. Well i guess in this case potential customer. But they just potential drove him away. Thats one less person for them to make money off of. But they also lost another. I will not stand by a company that can not deal with their customers/potential customers. |
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Originally posted by Cetra
No, you deserved it for typing this crap in their offical forum. What gives you the right to call their game a failure before it even launched and your disrespect for the company. They are sure you are definitely not a potential customer just a troublemaker. I would have banned you too if i am the boss.
Wow, have you ever delt with a customer in your life? Chill out, get a grip. BTW your looking way too far into his post. By them banning him it just shows horrible customer service. This "disrespect" you speek of is coming from you, it has nothing to do with what is at hand. Also the boss comment, thats why your not a boss. You would loose every customer simply because you have no idea how to deal with customers. |
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Originally posted by guidi2009
Again opinions is not flaming. He said they failed. He belived they failed. That is not flaiming. Learn what flaiming is. |
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Originally posted by ghoul31
No, it looks like 2 or 3 seperate people made those other posts.. The sad part is that the other people didn't even give him negative rep. If you look at the picture, the squares on the left side are gray. That means neutral rep I believe. The square to the left of mine is red, meaning I gave him negative rep. Thats just more proof that the other posts weren't mine. If I had created alt accounts to give him negative rep, I would have actually given him negative rep, not neutral rep. So that proves that those other posts weren't mine. 2 or 3 seperate people gave him negative rep for the same old posts in the time frame of 4 minutes? Doesn't sound very likely to me.
As for the picture being gray, that means that the person who gave rep has no rep power and thus can't effect your rep. If you read the comments behind the rep's then it's pretty clear they are negative. Clearly the person who gave that rep had just signed up on the forums (you have 0 rep power when you first sign up), which further indicates that the accounts were made simply for the reason to give negative rep.
Seems to me like you are grasping at straws here. That is of course my own personal opinion.
Edit: onlinenow225, read the thread before going on a posting rampage. His ban was not due to the thread he made, but due to the fact that he made multiple forum accounts to give negative rep to people. He of course denies this. Who is right or wrong on this matter is left for the mods to decide. They decided that he indeed did make multiple forum accounts and thus banned him, since it's against the rules. |
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Originally posted by L1ghtsabeR That starvault Q/A post wasn't old. It had just been created a few mintues before those comments were made. So of course people are going to make comments right after a post is made. If you look at my post, it is a clear, well thought out complete sentence. I even signed my name to it. The other posts are just a few words with obscenities ands symbols and such. Anyone can tell that my post is totally different from those other posts in every way. I have made over 1700 posts on this forum , and not once have I ever used things like GTFO, or <3, or :O, or any ridiculous or rude thing like that.
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Originally posted by ghoul31 Which is exactly what someone who wants to give negative rep from alternative accounts would do, isn't it? Leaving the same exact comment would have been rather dumb.
But hey, if you can prove it wasn't you then go right ahead and I will back you up when you try to get your ban lifted. |
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Originally posted by L1ghtsabeR Which is exactly what someone who wants to give negative rep from alternative accounts would do, isn't it? Leaving the same exact comment would have been rather dumb.
If I was pretending to be someone else, why would I use the word ghoul? Now you are the one grasping at straws.
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Originally posted by ghoul31 If I was pretending to be someone else, why would I use the word ghoul? Now you are the one grasping at straws. I never said you were smart. :D
Seriously tho, this is a pointless discussion. Neither of us can prove anything. If the mods figured that you made alt accounts and if you can't prove it to them that you didn't, then that's that. |
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