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Originally posted by Lord_Ixigan

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Originally posted by ghoul31

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Originally posted by JKnight1

. Disadants and criticisms are fine, but blatant mockery and disdain for the attempt at something cool and amazing with so little, is down right disgusting.
Shame on you.

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I wasn't mocking them, I was simply asking a question.  And it was a legitimate question. I think you read waay to much into the question.
 

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I read and responded to your post and if I recall some of the responses you gave to our replies showed a continued lack of respect.
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm not. Either way your post could have been worded better. It carried with it an aggressive air, like you expect SV to fail. The fact that you would come here and rage about it doesn't do anything to improve your image and it won't garner any pity. The MO official forums have been very relaxed and forthcoming with information, way more so than any mmo I can remember in the last five years. So don't come whining to these boards because the MO community is small, very mature and very united behind the game.

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 It garners pity from me actually. And if you think the 'MO community is small, very mature and very united behind the game' then I suggest you are either a paid shill or clinically mad.

Count me among the clinically mad because I also view the Mortal Online Forum (MOFO) community as "small, mature and united."

I only wish more internet communities conducted and moderated themselves in such a manner.

Severely and clinically mad here too.

Sad sad little DF fanbots, crying into their milk about the supierior developers and community we have on the MO forums.

Must be a shock to see competant mods keeping things civil. Some of us like forums devoid of cursing rants, DIAF GTFO and QQ, and all the other intelligent things the Forumfall community spews:

www.mortalonline.com/forums/7426-mods-here-rare-breed-indeed.html

Thread was locked, before then, St. Judas said in response to:

Sure but it'd be nice if we could have a bit of 'free speech' around here once in a while

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Not when a company is going to sell a product, the stock owners might be put off if the forum is in chaos. The 'free speech' is often abused by people posting degrading pictures and right out morbid in some cases.

Thats why a person whos buying stock want to know that when he is checking up on the company he bought his shares in wont get him kicked out from his work cause the pictures on the forum are 'Not Work Safe' and the netadmin shuts his client down.

I dont think many of the so called free speech and anarchy flag wavers on this forum have understood just that part, that there are rules in for a reason.

-StJudas

Damn right.

Originally posted by Die_Scream

Sad sad little DF fanbots, crying into their milk about the supierior developers and community we have on the MO forums.

Must be a shock to see competant mods keeping things civil. Some of us like forums devoid of cursing rants, DIAF GTFO and QQ, and all the other intelligent things the Forumfall community spews:

 

 

I didn't curse at all. I simply asked a question. And I was banned for life. That shows the mods are out of control. Plain and simple.

Originally posted by ghoul31

Originally posted by Die_Scream

Sad sad little DF fanbots, crying into their milk about the supierior developers and community we have on the MO forums.

Must be a shock to see competant mods keeping things civil. Some of us like forums devoid of cursing rants, DIAF GTFO and QQ, and all the other intelligent things the Forumfall community spews:

 

 

 

I didn't curse at all. I simply asked a question. And I was banned for life. That shows the mods are out of control. Plain and simple.

 

Actually, I'd have to say if anything the mods have shown they are completely in control.  Of everything said over there anyways.

Its not really an open forum for discussion but rather a glorified marketing tool. 

Originally posted by Kyleran

 

Actually, I'd have to say if anything the mods have shown they are completely in control.  Of everything said over there anyways.

Its not really an open forum for discussion but rather a glorified marketing tool. 

 

Instead of hiring 7 people to constantly lock threads, why not hire 7 more programmers instead? Then you would get the game done a lot sooner.

It's hard to believe that people have been feeding the troll for eleven pages.

I guess P.T. Barnum was right.

LOl I went and read all 6 threads/posts this troll made at the MO forums. Every single one of them was a troll, flame or whine thread.

I would have banned you too, only sooner.

Originally posted by Caligulug

LOl I went and read all 6 threads/posts this troll made at the MO forums. Every single one of them was a troll, flame or whine thread.

 

I would have banned you too, only sooner.

lets see, i talked about full looting causes people to fight naked. This is exactly what is happening in Darkfall. I also talked about how I liked the races in Shadowbane. They weren't troll posts at all. So give it up.

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Originally posted by ghoul31

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Originally posted by Kyleran

 
Actually, I'd have to say if anything the mods have shown they are completely in control.  Of everything said over there anyways.
Its not really an open forum for discussion but rather a glorified marketing tool. 
 

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Instead of hiring 7 people to constantly lock threads, why not hire 7 more programmers instead? Then you would get the game done a lot sooner.
 

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You know, it's exactly this type of "helpful" and "intelligent" questioning that probably got you banned in the first place over there.

The ironic thing, is you'd absolutely see nothing wrong with asking them this if you were there, lol.

Originally posted by popinjay

 

 

You know, it's exactly this type of "helpful" and "intelligent" questioning that probably got you banned in the first place over there.

 

 

The ironic thing, is you'd absolutely see nothing wrong with asking them this if you were there, lol.

 

 

 

Shouldn't you be over in the Darfall forum, making up more lies about how its the greatest game ever?

Originally posted by Ruyn

Darkfall is not a failure.

It certainly isn't a success, so what exactly is it?

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Originally posted by ghoul31

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Originally posted by popinjay

You know, it's exactly this type of "helpful" and "intelligent" questioning that probably got you banned in the first place over there.
 
 

The ironic thing, is you'd absolutely see nothing wrong with asking them this if you were there, lol.
 

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Shouldn't you be over in the Darfall forum, making up more lies about how its the greatest game ever?
 

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I was, but your QQ parade is much better entertainment.

Make up a fake account if you want to post on Mortal Online forums so bad. Send a letter to the administrator there apologizing and promising to read and think before you post. Tell them you will buy 30 copies so they let you back in. Take out a web ad so they know you really, really want to play their game and that you think Darkfall is a steaming pile. They may reconsider.

I'm not sure exactly what you think will happen here as you keep bumping your own pity party. It's getting worse by the minute.

Originally posted by popinjay

 

 

 

I was, but your QQ parade is much better entertainment.

 

 

Make up a fake account if you want to post on Mortal Online forums so bad. Send a letter to the administrator there apologizing and promising to read and think before you post. Tell them you will buy 30 copies so they let you back in. Take out a web ad so they know you really, really want to play their game and that you think Darkfall is a steaming pile. They may reconsider.

 

I'm not sure exactly what you think will happen here as you keep bumping your own pity party. It's getting worse by the minute.
 

I prefer your posts for entertainment. You never even played Darkfall, and yet you make hundreds of posts talking about how great the game is. How ridiculous is that?

I was one of the many who tried to join DF for hours every day , both in the pre-order then the waves of restricted sales and gave up. I'm not sorry I did now anyway. Too much time wasted trying to get an account for a game where you then have to wait ages to get to the front of the log in que I reckon. Why bother? Plenty of other games out there.

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Originally posted by ghoul31

 I prefer your posts for entertainment. You never even played Darkfall, and yet you make hundreds of posts talking about how great the game is. How ridiculous is that?
 

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So..... Now that you got permabanned from Mortal Online forums, when you buy the game, think they'll let you post again?

And if they do, will you behave yourself this time around?

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Originally posted by ghoul31

lets see, i talked about full looting causes people to fight naked. This is exactly what is happening in Darkfall. I also talked about how I liked the races in Shadowbane. They weren't troll posts at all. So give it up.

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You had 6 posts on the forums(http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/search.php?searchid=153692).  

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Thread #1

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1st post

I am disappointed. Shadowbane had lots of cool races. They had minotaurs, centaurs, vampires, Flying bird creatures, Flying demons, dwarves. It seems that MMORPGS these days take 2 steps backward...

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5th post
Realistic? Its a fantasy game. Its not supposed to be realistic. Thats the whole point of fantasy. To do stuff we can't normally do. Its not realistic to shoot fireballs out your hand. But its cool. If I want to be a human, I can be one in real life. But I can't be something cool like a demon or a centaur in real life.

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Thread #2

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2nd post

I don't think that a open pvp full loot game can ever work. Just look at Darfall right now. Its a disaster.

Everyone runs around naked so they don't lose stuff. The economy in non existent because people aren't going to pay a lot of money for stuff they will lose in 5 minutes.

The fun in pvp games is the pvp itself. If you you want meaning you can fight for cities, mines, and territories. But having to totally reequip your character every 5 minutes is a totally pain, and makes everyone afraid to fight.There won't be any cool items in the game. And if there is , nobody will wear them because they don't want to lose them. It just doesn't work.

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3rd Post
You just made my point for me. You admit people are going to run around naked. And you admit that if you get decent gear, you aren't going to wear it. You are just going to let it sit in the bank and collect dust because you are afraid to wear it.

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4th Post
Its just the opposite . Nobody attacks a naked person because there is no loot to gain from them. The full looting thing just brings out tons of problems. Naked gank groups are just one of them.

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Just criticism, nothing constructive, you don't say how someone might work with the full loot system, you just say "It won't work so remove it"(not a smart thing to say to someone that might want it implemented)

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6th post
There have been a lot of small companies trying to make revolutionary sandbox pvp games. Dark and Light, Roma Victor, Mourning, Shadowbane and now Darkfall.

And they all have been failures. What makes you think this game will be any different? I don't think small companies have the resources to pull off a complete MMORPG.

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It was borderline trolling.
Your attitude was not conducive to a creative and productive atmosphere.
You wrote nothing positive and in the last post you insinuate the game will fail.

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Basically this sums up what i think of all your posts put together and the action that the moderators took against you.

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Originally posted by Sovrath
Players need to realize that game forums are not a place for open discourse or for arguing tricky subject matter. They are a way to create a community, true, but they are also a marketing tool for the company.
I'm pretty sure that an open discussion on failed games and essentially a question that requires them to start making promises to the forum people that in no way shape or form will they repeat any mistake of those games would at least get the post removed.

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You went there knowing that it's the OFFICIAL FORUM for the game and as it is in most official forums, stuff will be removed and users be banned. Rather than asking information about how they might implement all features that they listed, you plainly attacked the game. That's how i see it(I'm sure someone is going to have a different point of view just like you had when you posted what you did and didn't see a problem with it).

In the end there are plenty of places where you could have asked that question, but asking it in a place where the people want to play the game or to sell that game... what can i say... it's like asking them to ban you.

P.S. This of course in case you were banned for what you wrote in these posts(You could have sent a message to a developer saying F.U. and never told us about it).

well you can check how many ppl are online  everyday in MO forums and then you have the answer why you got banned.They dont  want you to scare the tiny number of ppl that interested in the game. 220 ppl(more or less)  logging everyday in MO forums.....well thats not much for an mmo thats going to be released this summer. Wheres the hype wheres the passion for this game . i really wonder

Originally posted by drkl

 

 

 

 

 

 

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2nd post

 

I don't think that a open pvp full loot game can ever work. Just look at Darfall right now. Its a disaster.

Everyone runs around naked so they don't lose stuff. The economy in non existent because people aren't going to pay a lot of money for stuff they will lose in 5 minutes.

The fun in pvp games is the pvp itself. If you you want meaning you can fight for cities, mines, and territories. But having to totally reequip your character every 5 minutes is a totally pain, and makes everyone afraid to fight.There won't be any cool items in the game. And if there is , nobody will wear them because they don't want to lose them. It just doesn't work.

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3rd Post
You just made my point for me. You admit people are going to run around naked. And you admit that if you get decent gear, you aren't going to wear it. You are just going to let it sit in the bank and collect dust because you are afraid to wear it.

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4th Post
Its just the opposite . Nobody attacks a naked person because there is no loot to gain from them. The full looting thing just brings out tons of problems. Naked gank groups are just one of them.

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Just criticism, nothing constructive, you don't say how someone might work with the full loot system, you just say "It won't work so remove it"(not a smart thing to say to someone that might want it implemented)

 

 

 

 

People ran around naked in UO and it was a big problem. I said the same thing would happen in Darkfall , and guess what? It did! The Darkfall devs didn't learn anything from UO.  They didn't listen to people like me who said naked ganking would be a problem.

So my post was very constructive. It was showing people the problems full looting would create. If the darkfall devs would have listened to people like me, they would have a lot less problems now. But they didn't so history repeated itself.

Now the Mortal Online devs don't want to listen. So they will repeat the same mistakes all over again.

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by ghoul31

I was permantly banned from the official forums. here was my post

 

"There have been a lot of small companies trying to make revolutionary sandbox pvp games. Dark and Light, Roma Victor, Mourning, Shadowbane and now Darkfall.

And they all have been failures. What makes you think this game will be any different? I don't think small companies have the resources to pull off a complete MMORPG."

 

I don't see anything banable in that. Its seems that the mods in that forum are even worse than the Darkfall forums. This isn't a good sign. It show sthat they have something to hide.

 

 

looking at your post, it does seem to be like you are challenging them and disparaging small mmo makers. I wonder if this would have been a more diplomatic post:

 

"There have been a lot of small companies trying to make revolutionary sandbox pvp games. Dark and Light, Roma Victor, Mourning, Shadowbane and now Darkfall.

Unfortunately  they were not as successful as they could have been.  What can you share with us about your company that sets it apart from the other companies and what do you think your company  will do differently from those who have thrown their hat into the MMO arena.

Especially because it seems that  there are many difficulties to be faced such  as  limited resources, to name one."

 

That just seems less incendiary.

 

here you go op this is what you shouldve posted instead of your stupid original post.

Check the TOS a lot of game wont let you talk about other games in their forums.

You could have been banned for that.

Take the fact you were trolling and being pointlessly hostile in your questions and they had cause to ban ya.

Just make another name and go back, no biggy.

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Originally posted by ghoul31

They didn't listen to people like me who said naked ganking would be a problem.

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And thank God for that. They listened to their fanbase; you know, people who actually cheered the game on for years and told them what they wanted. As opposed to people like you who poo-pooed it the whole way saying it would fail, like you are doing with MO now. They put in the game what their fanbase wanted, and not people like you who want to change it to what they want. Their fanbase has not problem with running around naked. They are much more interested in the various intrigue and political alliances and battles than just "wearing shinies" as you are preoccupied with. The Darkfall fans are not crying to the developers "Hey, I have to fight naked!" People like "you" want to get in that game and solo around, get killed, then cry foul. They. Did. Not. Make. The. Game. For. People. Like. You. Lol. Mortal Online is not made for people like you.

Read Paragus' latest blog report on their recent large battle. They had a problem with the person declaring war getting disconnected and that caused their allies to forfeit a battle. Those players would much rather have things like that fixed instead of worrying about whether there is loot to get from someone after they kill them. If you want to play a loot driven game with shinies, you probably should check out "Hello Kitty", there's plenty of goodies in that one. And when someone kills you, I don't think they have full looting, so you're safe.

Why should Mortal Online listen to people like "you"? You have no expertise. You are not a developer. You have no gaming acumen other than you played a few games a few times. You predicted Darkfall wouldn't even launch. You were wrong. So why is your professional opinion to be trusted? My guess is that from the quality of your questions, the devs there could see you had no idea what you were talking about regarding their game, so were in no way to be making suggestions to them. And then you come to this site to complain they don't listen to you, even though you already have shown you don't like their game, and you don't like full loot and many other things about it. Just weirdness, lol.

Originally posted by popinjay

 

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Originally posted by ghoul31

 

They didn't listen to people like me who said naked ganking would be a problem.

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. Their fanbase has not problem with running around naked.

 

 

 

 

. You predicted Darkfall wouldn't even launch.

The fans did have a problem with everyone running around naked. Again, this is just more lies from someone who never even played the game. You never played Darkfall,  and yet you act like an expert on it. You are the ultimate hypocrite.

And I never said that Darkfall would never launch. Again, more lies from you.

I wouldn't call EVE a failure. It was ade by a then-small company. Look at it now.