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  jadsta

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Posts: 55

 
OP  1/24/13 9:33:31 PM#1

I played Darkfall for a long time until the population on EU dwindled away, and the new beta in my opinion sucks compared to the old DF. I bought and played MO as soon as it came out too and thought it was really good in many ways, but way too buggy and just lost interest, but I've seen it popping up a lot of MMO sites like this one and am wondering if its worth trying out again.

 

I love sandbox MMOs, and I'm hearing some good things about MO recently so I thought I might give it another try, but it's been such a long time and I'm wondering if I'll be able to catch up starting fresh. Is it worth making a new account now, and if so, will I be able to catch up with the veterans?

  Rohn

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Posts: 3749

1/24/13 9:47:05 PM#2

In my opinion, it's definitely worth playing if you're looking for a fantasy sandbox game.

Oddly enough, MMORPG.com released a review of it today:

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/361/view/news/read/26624/Mortal-Online-Free-to-Play-But-Not-BugFree.html

Overall, it's a pretty fair review, at least at a "tutorial" level.  I'd have given it a little higher score here and there, especially for innovation, and there are significant parts of the game that the review did not touch upon.  The game does still have bugs, but is a night and day difference from launch. and continues to improve slowly but surely.

As far as being competitive, it doesn't take too long to build your character.  Characters have a skill cap, which is what keeps everyone from being able to do everything.  Getting primary skills to max doesn't take long, the secondaries can take a bit longer, but you can be competitive within a couple to few weeks, depending on how much you play.

In my opinion, the community is great.  Sure, it's an FFA, full-loot game, so you'll likely run into some asshats.  Every game has them.  But, there's a very large segment of the community that's very helpful toward newcomers, often assisting or running events to aid them.

The game is now free to play, so I'd recommend going that route, and trying it for yourself to see if you like it.

Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

  User Deleted
1/24/13 9:59:09 PM#3

I tried to register an account as soon as they went free 2 play and said that I created the account successfully but to complete the process MUST check my email and do so..... never got an email from them so I let it go, today saw this thread and went back tried to create another account and still no email yet :( maybe free 2play is just an ad to get people to buy it?

edit: this is what I get now if I try to log in: "Your account needs to be activated before you can login. Please check your email for activation instructions." the thing is I don't get an email.

edit: Looks like @comcast.net is an email they don't understand I used gmail and it worked.

  Toferio

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1/25/13 2:46:51 AM#4
Originally posted by Rohn

Overall, it's a pretty fair review, at least at a "tutorial" level.  I'd have given it a little higher score here and there, especially for innovation, and there are significant parts of the game that the review did not touch upon.  

I am not so sure about the "innovative" part. In my eyes, they didn't really create that many innovative mechanics or solutions, but just made complex and realistic systems which is not quite innovation per se. Sure MO is different from your generic MMO themepark but for some reason I find it hard to call that innovation.

  psykobilly

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Posts: 347

1/25/13 10:32:49 AM#5

 

If you're cool with a game that has one full time developer and one part time developer then Mortal is OK.  Don't expect bug fixes or updates in a timely manner... 2 years being a not unheard of turnaround time for a fix.

The major issue in the game is the 'prediction system' so combat skill is all about learning how to abuse it to your advantage i.e. make it look like you are running right on someone elses screen when you are actually running left for the back shot.

The second big issue is the guard system which is easily abused.  Players can split groups - group A pull the guards to one direction while group B can attack people freely inside cities.  Don't assume you are safe in an NPC city - you are not, and make sure you have /guards set to a macro key.

The third issue is that the game has suffered something like 10-15 different cases of duping bugs.  The economy has been comeplete shit from day 1 due to this.  Many of the dupers have quit by now, but the long term effects are still there.

The fourth issue is that the AI is really terrible.  Mobs behave very stupidly, so PVE ranges from boring to rediculous.

There are more issues of course... but those are the highlights.

 

  Doomtec

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1/25/13 12:40:29 PM#6
Originally posted by psykobilly

 

If you're cool with a game that has one full time developer and one part time developer then Mortal is OK.  Don't expect bug fixes or updates in a timely manner... 2 years being a not unheard of turnaround time for a fix.

The major issue in the game is the 'prediction system' so combat skill is all about learning how to abuse it to your advantage i.e. make it look like you are running right on someone elses screen when you are actually running left for the back shot.

The second big issue is the guard system which is easily abused.  Players can split groups - group A pull the guards to one direction while group B can attack people freely inside cities.  Don't assume you are safe in an NPC city - you are not, and make sure you have /guards set to a macro key.

The third issue is that the game has suffered something like 10-15 different cases of duping bugs.  The economy has been comeplete shit from day 1 due to this.  Many of the dupers have quit by now, but the long term effects are still there.

The fourth issue is that the AI is really terrible.  Mobs behave very stupidly, so PVE ranges from boring to rediculous.

There are more issues of course... but those are the highlights.

 

sounds like you havn't played since release. how about you stop spewing mis-information?

  Lahuzer

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1/25/13 12:46:42 PM#7
It´s definitely worth trying if your into sandbox MMOs. But I wouldn´t call it friendly for new players. The first few hours/days in MO can be pretty hard. Thankfully there are alot of people ingame and at the forums that help new players out. But MO is a tough world live in. And I for one, love that. But do test the F2P-thingy at least.
  Doomtec

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Posts: 32

1/25/13 12:47:11 PM#8

In answer to the OP, the game has a F2P trial at the moment. Give it a shot!

I recommend you start in Tindrem, so that you gain access to the tutorial.

The Help channel is VERY useful. Many people, including myself, spend a lot of time helping new players. And you will need it....this game has more depth and "sand in the box" than pretty much any sandbox MMO.

Helpful hints:

Stable your pets, or if it is a mount, mount it, before logging out.

DO NOT attack or loot anything with a blue or yellow name tag.

be really careful swinging weapons. You mentioned you played Darkfall, so you probably remember the pricks who used to jump in front of you in goblin spans to get you grey flagged?? yeah....those guys are here too....the difference is if they grey flag you in town, the guards will kill you very quickly.

WATCH for pick-pockets and thieves!!! Instead of carrying 2 gold, convert it to 200 silver at a merchant. It makes it weigh too much to be easily stolen without you noticing. If someone does pick your pocket, hold block and click attack....it will push them, and most likely flag them as a criminal....then you or the guards can kill them and you can retrieve your loot.

Have fun!

  Genadi

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Posts: 124

Stupidity can't be taught

1/25/13 11:24:03 PM#9
Originally posted by Doomtec
Originally posted by psykobilly

 

If you're cool with a game that has one full time developer and one part time developer then Mortal is OK.  Don't expect bug fixes or updates in a timely manner... 2 years being a not unheard of turnaround time for a fix.

The major issue in the game is the 'prediction system' so combat skill is all about learning how to abuse it to your advantage i.e. make it look like you are running right on someone elses screen when you are actually running left for the back shot.

The second big issue is the guard system which is easily abused.  Players can split groups - group A pull the guards to one direction while group B can attack people freely inside cities.  Don't assume you are safe in an NPC city - you are not, and make sure you have /guards set to a macro key.

The third issue is that the game has suffered something like 10-15 different cases of duping bugs.  The economy has been comeplete shit from day 1 due to this.  Many of the dupers have quit by now, but the long term effects are still there.

The fourth issue is that the AI is really terrible.  Mobs behave very stupidly, so PVE ranges from boring to rediculous.

There are more issues of course... but those are the highlights.

 

sounds like you havn't played since release. how about you stop spewing mis-information?

 

Yet you fail to point out what he said was wrong, because most of what he said is correct.

 

GM's are very corrupt and still go unchecked scouting for friends etc, everyone playing knows and it's the reason most guilds quit. Prediction system is actually worse now also. Economy is still broken because of duped items GM's and devs failed to take out 2 years ago.

Played 2 days ago.

 

Great potential unfortunately the wrong people are behind it.

 

 

The population left are 95% griefers, hackers, dupers and exploiters.

  argirop

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Posts: 326

1/26/13 2:07:47 AM#10
OP to answer your question: NO Mortal Online is not friendly to new players. Its not even friendly to old players. Theres a neverending trial that you can test it for yourself without throwing any money to those people, cause my opinion is that they dont deserve any money. Please give it a go if you will be lucky enough to install the game and make an account, come back to us and share your experiences and thoughts concerning the game.
  argirop

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1/26/13 2:11:10 AM#11
Originally posted by Doomtec
Originally posted by psykobilly

 

If you're cool with a game that has one full time developer and one part time developer then Mortal is OK.  Don't expect bug fixes or updates in a timely manner... 2 years being a not unheard of turnaround time for a fix.

The major issue in the game is the 'prediction system' so combat skill is all about learning how to abuse it to your advantage i.e. make it look like you are running right on someone elses screen when you are actually running left for the back shot.

The second big issue is the guard system which is easily abused.  Players can split groups - group A pull the guards to one direction while group B can attack people freely inside cities.  Don't assume you are safe in an NPC city - you are not, and make sure you have /guards set to a macro key.

The third issue is that the game has suffered something like 10-15 different cases of duping bugs.  The economy has been comeplete shit from day 1 due to this.  Many of the dupers have quit by now, but the long term effects are still there.

The fourth issue is that the AI is really terrible.  Mobs behave very stupidly, so PVE ranges from boring to rediculous.

There are more issues of course... but those are the highlights.

 

sounds like you havn't played since release. how about you stop spewing mis-information?

Whats the "mis-information" he is spewing? You made me read his post twice and it seems preety accurate except the fact he is been very generous with the 10-15 cases of duping.

  psykobilly

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Joined: 11/19/10
Posts: 347

1/26/13 2:14:45 AM#12
Originally posted by Doomtec
Originally posted by psykobilly

 

If you're cool with a game that has one full time developer and one part time developer then Mortal is OK.  Don't expect bug fixes or updates in a timely manner... 2 years being a not unheard of turnaround time for a fix.

The major issue in the game is the 'prediction system' so combat skill is all about learning how to abuse it to your advantage i.e. make it look like you are running right on someone elses screen when you are actually running left for the back shot.

The second big issue is the guard system which is easily abused.  Players can split groups - group A pull the guards to one direction while group B can attack people freely inside cities.  Don't assume you are safe in an NPC city - you are not, and make sure you have /guards set to a macro key.

The third issue is that the game has suffered something like 10-15 different cases of duping bugs.  The economy has been comeplete shit from day 1 due to this.  Many of the dupers have quit by now, but the long term effects are still there.

The fourth issue is that the AI is really terrible.  Mobs behave very stupidly, so PVE ranges from boring to rediculous.

There are more issues of course... but those are the highlights.

 

sounds like you havn't played since release. how about you stop spewing mis-information?

I mention the new guard system and it 'sounds like I havent played since release'.   What it sounds like is that you are brand new to the game and don't understand any of the issues I mention.  You are another fail troll who can't back up anything they say.

 

  jadsta

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Joined: 6/01/08
Posts: 55

 
OP  1/27/13 3:14:25 PM#13

Thanks for all the replies! I downloaded and installed it to try it out again, but it wouldn't patch properly and I couldn't seem to fix it so I just uninstalled. Reading through these replies though I'm motivated to try and install it again xD

If I manage to get it to work and try it, I'll post here to let you all know how I found it, and whether its really as good or bad as some people are saying it is. Thanks everyone.

  Doomtec

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Joined: 12/16/12
Posts: 32

1/31/13 11:15:44 AM#14
Originally posted by jadsta

Thanks for all the replies! I downloaded and installed it to try it out again, but it wouldn't patch properly and I couldn't seem to fix it so I just uninstalled. Reading through these replies though I'm motivated to try and install it again xD

If I manage to get it to work and try it, I'll post here to let you all know how I found it, and whether its really as good or bad as some people are saying it is. Thanks everyone.

good luck! Thanks for taking the time to try the game yourself, instead of forming a pre-conception based on the notorious haters on this forum

 

[mod edit]

The truth is that MO is a good game, made by a small, struggling company. Most certainly one of the best sandbox MMORPGs ever created.[mod edit]

  argirop

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Joined: 6/05/09
Posts: 326

2/01/13 2:50:55 AM#15
Originally posted by Doomtec
Originally posted by jadsta

Thanks for all the replies! I downloaded and installed it to try it out again, but it wouldn't patch properly and I couldn't seem to fix it so I just uninstalled. Reading through these replies though I'm motivated to try and install it again xD

If I manage to get it to work and try it, I'll post here to let you all know how I found it, and whether its really as good or bad as some people are saying it is. Thanks everyone.

good luck on installing the game, you certainly gonna need it! Thanks for taking the time to try the game yourself _ cause Henrik himself promissed me that i will get one penny for every trial that will log into the game-  instead of forming a pre-conception based on the painful true facts that the "notorious haters" spreading on this forum

 

To said haters: your responses to me, and their hateful nature, only serve to demonstrate your passionate dislike for this game, and to illustrate your agenda while at the same time you are making my life miserable by simply telling the truth, since i m being paid for few dollars and my line of work is kinda similar of the magician since i have to advertise a broken to the core game with few children pretending that developing it, hardly playable, with corrupted GM's that running around free to grief at will paying customers, with insane downtimes even now almost 3 years after release with a lovely forum that people are able to speak ONLY about how awesome MO is, how hansom is our CEO etc etc and all the rest are getting banned or their posts are being removed.

The truth is that MO is hardly a game, made by a small company thats running the game in life support for the last 2 and half years, with unethical tacticks, constant lies, overhyping and underdelivering. Most certainly one of the worst sandbox MMORPGs ever created, if you can consider it as a sandbox at all. Why this offends you is beyond me, but I've never understood the mentality of those who dwell on these forums with the intention of filling every thread with true facts against a few of us that trying to do our job and convince sandbox followers to buy "sea weed in place of silk ribbons".

Fixed it a bit for ya. Cheers.

Disclaimer: This is not the original post thats being quoted from the user with the nick Doomtec. Its a humoristic attempt to send a message to him and the other posters reading those forums concerning the way i read his posts and the agenda that forces him to do so. The fact only that he is thanking the OP for taking the time to install a game makes me laugh and backs up my way of thinking while at the same time draws a very thick line that seperates him from the majority of the other posters who can be considered as gamers.

 

  Doomtec

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Joined: 12/16/12
Posts: 32

2/01/13 11:26:08 AM#16
Originally posted by argirop
Originally posted by Doomtec
Originally posted by jadsta

Thanks for all the replies! I downloaded and installed it to try it out again, but it wouldn't patch properly and I couldn't seem to fix it so I just uninstalled. Reading through these replies though I'm motivated to try and install it again xD

If I manage to get it to work and try it, I'll post here to let you all know how I found it, and whether its really as good or bad as some people are saying it is. Thanks everyone.

good luck on installing the game, you certainly gonna need it! Thanks for taking the time to try the game yourself _ cause Henrik himself promissed me that i will get one penny for every trial that will log into the game-  instead of forming a pre-conception based on the painful true facts that the "notorious haters" spreading on this forum

 

To said haters: your responses to me, and their hateful nature, only serve to demonstrate your passionate dislike for this game, and to illustrate your agenda while at the same time you are making my life miserable by simply telling the truth, since i m being paid for few dollars and my line of work is kinda similar of the magician since i have to advertise a broken to the core game with few children pretending that developing it, hardly playable, with corrupted GM's that running around free to grief at will paying customers, with insane downtimes even now almost 3 years after release with a lovely forum that people are able to speak ONLY about how awesome MO is, how hansom is our CEO etc etc and all the rest are getting banned or their posts are being removed.

The truth is that MO is hardly a game, made by a small company thats running the game in life support for the last 2 and half years, with unethical tacticks, constant lies, overhyping and underdelivering. Most certainly one of the worst sandbox MMORPGs ever created, if you can consider it as a sandbox at all. Why this offends you is beyond me, but I've never understood the mentality of those who dwell on these forums with the intention of filling every thread with true facts against a few of us that trying to do our job and convince sandbox followers to buy "sea weed in place of silk ribbons".

Fixed it a bit for ya. Cheers.

Disclaimer: This is not the original post thats being quoted from the user with the nick Doomtec. Its a humoristic attempt to send a message to him and the other posters reading those forums concerning the way i read his posts and the agenda that forces him to do so. The fact only that he is thanking the OP for taking the time to install a game makes me laugh and backs up my way of thinking while at the same time draws a very thick line that seperates him from the majority of the other posters who can be considered as gamers.

 

I really don't need my post "fixed" by you, or the mods here. But once again, you both have demonstrated why the majority of the gaming community avoids this place like the plague, and laughs about the sad little trolls hating on games all day.

 

Hell, I only poke my nose in here every few months to see if anything has changed. It hasn't. Pathetic.

  argirop

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Posts: 326

2/01/13 12:27:22 PM#17
Originally posted by Doomtec

I really don't need my post "fixed" by you, or the mods here. But once again, you both have demonstrated why the majority of the gaming community avoids this place like the plague, and laughs about the sad little trolls hating on games all day.

 

Hell, I only poke my nose in here every few months to see if anything has changed. It hasn't. Pathetic.

Man chill out. Lets take some facts from the beggining: you coming in here blatantly advertising a broken game that 10ths of thousands people tried and no more than few hundreds playing. You complaining about "haters" being negative against you due to the nature of your posts and while the only negative poster in this thread that lacks any kind of constructive arguments the same time that everyone around has plenty is you. And you arent only negative. You are also rude and offensive the same time you are stating your own opinion and taste as a fact.

 

  Slapshot1188

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Joined: 5/06/07
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2/01/13 5:24:05 PM#18

OP:  Find out how many people tried the game.  Then find out how many still pay to sub to it.  

 

That should give you an idea on what MOST PEOPLE think about the game.  Don't listen to the blatant shills who try and claim only a tiny minority of people don't like it.  Facts show that the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of people who tried the game quit.

 

That is not even an arguable point.

 

 

"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

  Lahuzer

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2/02/13 2:13:55 AM#19
I would argue that most peeps that quit MO do it due to the nature of the game. Most gamers CAN'T handle loosing everything upon death. I've seen so many QQ-threads about this in MO forums, when people say why they are leaving MO. Sure some have left due to the buggy state as well. But more has left due to the "hardcoreness" of the game. At least if I have to go on the byebye-threads on the forums. MO sure ain't for every1, but some that can bite the bullet and come back from being ganked, and dig deeper into the game, might also fall in love cause there is no other game out there like MO right now. I would advice any1 to test it for free, and not listen to much to the dedicated haters or fanbois here. Make up your own freaking mind. ;)
  Vonatar

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Joined: 7/18/10
Posts: 585

2/02/13 2:49:07 AM#20
If you decide not to continue with MO, you should check out Age of Wushu. It's not full loot, but it is FFA with a good economy system.
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