"W" put it best...

"Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice, well you cant fool me twice."

Originally posted by mymmo

If you read the OPs text once again you will see what kind of post we are really discussing . I will even give you hint, the main purpose with the text is right in the first sentece. I say it again,  the fault lies on the user. 

You mean the part where the official page said patches requires 9GB while in fact they needed over 25gb? If that is user fault in your books, I am done with the discussion as it is obvious there is no helping you. Sure the ones to voice their feedback are often those with issues and not otherwise, but when the installer fails on multiple occasions at simple patching you have to question the developers, not the users. 

I realise that the "there are lot of forum posts complaining about installer" isn't that good of an argument, but it sure beats the "It worked for me therefore it is userfault".

This discussion is pointless anyways. It is developers responsibility to design and develop a rocksolid system which accounts for possible user related errors (not saying this is the case here), which SV failed at.

Lastly it is rather unprofessional to require the user to have 10gb free on his C: partition (according to the official site, which may be out of date), even if he installs game elsewhere. Nowdays many have SSD which can be as small as 60gb, meant only to store the OS and one-two main programs (I have 59gb of data on my C: partition and then I try avoiding having anything else on it than OS). If they can't code a patcher that can use other partition than C; I would hesitate to shout "user error". 

Turns out my problem (and everyone else that had their download halted) with getting the game downloaded was that SV couldn't be fecked to have someone around to make sure that the first weekend after going free to play goes smoothly for all these potential new customers - guess what - their download server hit the skids

Once again the ignorant posters that blame the user just because they didn't have a problem, well...........................

Originally posted by mymmo

So, just because you read things on the internet dosent mean you in anyway are entitled to your flawed opinon about my logic. I dont know, maybe you are new to internet, but its astonish that you dont seem to know  how forum works. Those that have the ability to get their stuff up and running  keep their opinions to themself and are not posting things like "oh. im so happy it works". It dosent happen. Those that cant get their things to work or feel that they are in some way wronged are the ones running their "opinion" on diffrent forums. And its to often in just a trashy way - not trying to find a solution and also not trying to help other with the same issue. If you read the OPs text once again you will see what kind of post we are really discussing . I will even give you hint, the main purpose with the text is right in the first sentece. I say it again,  the fault lies on the user. 

Quoted for awesome irony. Know what you're talking about before you go beating your chest next time. Remember, if ever in doubt blame SV, 99% of the time they're to blame for the crap that MO produces.

You know what's funniest is most the people here defending MO lately are MO mods lol. At least Theia had the balls to post under his own name, the rest of you man up and stop hiding behind those aliases.

MO can be fun.  It is much better when you actively do things with other players though.  If you go out alone it gets boring fast.  If you engage in group combat and pvp you will have a decent time. 

With it F2P I imagine there are more on so it may not be too bad any more.  But I still prefer DF over MO so I will be going to DFUW when it releases.

Originally posted by Genadi

Originally posted by mymmo

So, just because you read things on the internet dosent mean you in anyway are entitled to your flawed opinon about my logic. I dont know, maybe you are new to internet, but its astonish that you dont seem to know  how forum works. Those that have the ability to get their stuff up and running  keep their opinions to themself and are not posting things like "oh. im so happy it works". It dosent happen. Those that cant get their things to work or feel that they are in some way wronged are the ones running their "opinion" on diffrent forums. And its to often in just a trashy way - not trying to find a solution and also not trying to help other with the same issue. If you read the OPs text once again you will see what kind of post we are really discussing . I will even give you hint, the main purpose with the text is right in the first sentece. I say it again,  the fault lies on the user. 

 

Quoted for awesome irony. Know what you're talking about before you go beating your chest next time. Remember, if ever in doubt blame SV, 99% of the time they're to blame for the crap that MO produces.

His post is some what true.  I actually see many good posts.  Of course they probably occur when the game goes down for patching, and people want to get their good words out... but people do post good things now and then.

Originally posted by phantomghost

Originally posted by Genadi

Originally posted by mymmo

So, just because you read things on the internet dosent mean you in anyway are entitled to your flawed opinon about my logic. I dont know, maybe you are new to internet, but its astonish that you dont seem to know  how forum works. Those that have the ability to get their stuff up and running  keep their opinions to themself and are not posting things like "oh. im so happy it works". It dosent happen. Those that cant get their things to work or feel that they are in some way wronged are the ones running their "opinion" on diffrent forums. And its to often in just a trashy way - not trying to find a solution and also not trying to help other with the same issue. If you read the OPs text once again you will see what kind of post we are really discussing . I will even give you hint, the main purpose with the text is right in the first sentece. I say it again,  the fault lies on the user. 

 

Quoted for awesome irony. Know what you're talking about before you go beating your chest next time. Remember, if ever in doubt blame SV, 99% of the time they're to blame for the crap that MO produces.

His post is some what true.  I actually see many good posts.  Of course they probably occur when the game goes down for patching, and people want to get their good words out... but people do post good things now and then.

I'm friends with the guy who had to rebuild their broken launcher during beta. Trust me I know first hand just how capable SV are.

Originally posted by deathshroud
so your a friend who stabs him in the back? by talking badly about his job and the people he works with. He is a prt of the company earning from it and hoping for it to succeed.

Get a grip deathshroud, no one is stabbing anyone in the back.  If my friend assists or works for a shit company, then that does not mean that my opinion as a consumer goes out of the window.  No real friend would expect that unless they were very immature.  Just because you have some stockholm love/hate relationship with MO doesn't mean everyone has to as well.

but when his job is very much on the line at the moment, i would consider it offensive if some of my friends started talking badly of something i was trying to build up in an effort to halt its process, possibly even putting me out of a job.

But hey thats just me, maybe i put more faith in freindship than most.

Originally posted by deathshroud

but when his job is very much on the line at the moment, i would consider it offensive if some of my friends started talking badly of something i was trying to build up in an effort to halt its process, possibly even putting me out of a job.

 

But hey thats just me, maybe i put more faith in freindship than most.

I m not a friend with the guy that helped them build the patcher during beta but i also know their skill level. You probably arent a friend of that guy and you know their skill level.

Originally posted by YojimboBimbo
The guy who built the patcher was a volunteer, he doesn't have monetary interest in the game.

I think they hired him thou, didn't they?

Originally posted by Toferio

Originally posted by YojimboBimbo
The guy who built the patcher was a volunteer, he doesn't have monetary interest in the game.

I think they hired him thou, didn't they?

Can't remember, I may have him mixed up with another chap that I heard helped with the game.  In any case, he work for a bad company, then he gets no "buddy" pass.

Originally posted by deathshroud

but when his job is very much on the line at the moment, i would consider it offensive if some of my friends started talking badly of something i was trying to build up in an effort to halt its process, possibly even putting me out of a job.

 

But hey thats just me, maybe i put more faith in freindship than most.

You assume far too much. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Originally posted by XAPGames
It's PvP.  "Player versus Patcher".

hehehe you are funny

Originally posted by Genadi

Originally posted by deathshroud

but when his job is very much on the line at the moment, i would consider it offensive if some of my friends started talking badly of something i was trying to build up in an effort to halt its process, possibly even putting me out of a job.

 

But hey thats just me, maybe i put more faith in freindship than most.

You assume far too much. You have no idea what you're talking about.

then maybe you should explain it a little clearly becuase thats the impression you are giving off.

Originally posted by Jakdstripper

seriously dude, don't even bother.

i downloaded the F2P patch and now every 10 minutes that i sit on a horse all my controls start bugging out, i can't turn, i can't dismount, i can't equip enything, can't cast, cant use any keybinds, i can't even bring up the log out menu to re-log.....i have to Alt-Tab out of the game and close the window manually. it happened 4 times yesterday as i was going from town to town to see if there were more people about.  

 

i'm so effind done with this piece of crap game. nothing but a waste of space on my hd.

Meh like all ffa pvp games its a piece of shit just like darkfall, darkfall uw will be, and any other game like this, they can't survive because the market for them is extremly small. People hear/see full loot pvp and they just instantly lose interest. DW:UW is hyped up to hell, but its bascally the same game just updated a bit. It'll be dead after 2-3 months just like the orignal was. The mmorpg market is bascally a casual fest now no thanks to world of warshit.