well i will check out awakening for sure, i just have this pet peeve about mo having memory leak issue. Hopefully they fix that.

Originally posted by Bobbie203

well i will check out awakening for sure, i just have this pet peeve about mo having memory leak issue. Hopefully they fix that.

 

 cant say ive noticed any memory leaks in a long time, fab and meduli are jsut extremely demanding for my pc but a memory leak is were performance gets progressively worse due to a memory leak but i have not experienced that.

Originally posted by Jakdstripper

 i understand that you are very excited for Archage but you are selling the pelt of the bear you haven't even seen yet.

we have truly no idea exactly how sandboxy it really is and from all the clips out there it looks a lot more like a sandpark then a full sandbox. again my personal interpretation but either way neither of us knows.

you are only hyping the hype.

 

Correct, AA has never been promoted as the saviour of all sandbox games. It's a big-budget Korean themepark game with lots of interesting sandbox features and a very interactive world. Most likely they're aiming at the broadest possible audience, so it will not be "hardcore" and it will not be like EVE or UO; it will have a flavour of its own (possibly a very interesting flavour, who knows).

Too bad western sandbox fans are so starved for a good game that they'll jump on the hype train without any second thoughts - it's just a recipe for disappointment imo. I will surely play AA but I will not expect it to be the ultimate sandbox game.

Originally posted by Anubisan

You will get almost entirely negative responses from everyone about this game on the mmorpg.com forums. Judging by the entirely unnecessary constant hate posts, the SV devs apparently murdered some of these peoples' grandmothers. Poor granny...

OP - you really have nothing to lose but time on the trial. Maybe you will like it, maybe not. Either way, it won't cost you anything.

No, they didn't kill my grandmother.  They took my pre-order box sale money and told me to F off.  From the very beginning they have been worthless in my opinion.  I will never open my wallet to these scumbags again.

Originally posted by DAS1337

Originally posted by Anubisan

You will get almost entirely negative responses from everyone about this game on the mmorpg.com forums. Judging by the entirely unnecessary constant hate posts, the SV devs apparently murdered some of these peoples' grandmothers. Poor granny...

OP - you really have nothing to lose but time on the trial. Maybe you will like it, maybe not. Either way, it won't cost you anything.

 

No, they didn't kill my grandmother.  They took my pre-order box sale money and told me to F off.  From the very beginning they have been worthless in my opinion.  I will never open my wallet to these scumbags again.

They literally told you to F off? I'd like to see that screenshot.

Originally posted by ltank

Originally posted by DAS1337

Originally posted by Anubisan

You will get almost entirely negative responses from everyone about this game on the mmorpg.com forums. Judging by the entirely unnecessary constant hate posts, the SV devs apparently murdered some of these peoples' grandmothers. Poor granny...

OP - you really have nothing to lose but time on the trial. Maybe you will like it, maybe not. Either way, it won't cost you anything.

 

No, they didn't kill my grandmother.  They took my pre-order box sale money and told me to F off.  From the very beginning they have been worthless in my opinion.  I will never open my wallet to these scumbags again.

They literally told you to F off? I'd like to see that screenshot.

Originally posted by Bobbie203

OP Wait for archeage. That game will probably save sandbox.

You can own lands, naval warfare with other guilds, do epic ai npc boss fights, siege, build your own castles, houses.

You can harvest your materals dragings carts which mortal online doesnt have all archeage feature.MO  it has is sege and land fights exploits everywhere, buggs memory leaks. Its buggy client patch.

 You know what? I think you bring up a good point... I think AA may bring more people over to sandbox gameplay. As long as it does well I can picture alot of themeparkers saying "You can plant trees? Thats awesome!" 

And from that point on all themeparkers will demand tree-planting, and sandbox type crafting in their games. Not to derail the thread but this may also have a positive effect on MO also, with a bigger base that may want to try it.

Originally posted by xDayx

 

Not to derail the thread but this may also have a positive effect on MO also, with a bigger base that may want to try it.

I doubt the issue is that few dare to try MO, but for one reason or another few remain after trying it out. If those who are sandbox fans by default are having issues with MO, I think those who just dipped their toes into "sandbox" through AA will too.

Originally posted by Toferio

Originally posted by xDayx

 

Not to derail the thread but this may also have a positive effect on MO also, with a bigger base that may want to try it.

I doubt the issue is that few dare to try MO, but for one reason or another few remain after trying it out. If those who are sandbox fans by default are having issues with MO, I think those who just dipped their toes into "sandbox" through AA will too.

 I agree with you. Im hoping pve-content will increase retention a bit more than now and for a re-redo of the current tutorial system by the time AA comes to NA.  

Originally posted by Toferio

Originally posted by xDayx

 

Not to derail the thread but this may also have a positive effect on MO also, with a bigger base that may want to try it.

I doubt the issue is that few dare to try MO, but for one reason or another few remain after trying it out. If those who are sandbox fans by default are having issues with MO, I think those who just dipped their toes into "sandbox" through AA will too.

Honestly, I'd be willing to play a game like MO; but the lack of community support is pretty bland. I love games that don't hold you hand, like MO does, but there's a difference between taking time to learn, and wasteing time figuring out. I attempted to find some helpful guides or video series, but not much of anything that really helped. That's why I love EvE, so much community assistance, it's impossible to fail.

Originally posted by Sora2810

Originally posted by Toferio

Originally posted by xDayx

 

Not to derail the thread but this may also have a positive effect on MO also, with a bigger base that may want to try it.

I doubt the issue is that few dare to try MO, but for one reason or another few remain after trying it out. If those who are sandbox fans by default are having issues with MO, I think those who just dipped their toes into "sandbox" through AA will too.

Honestly, I'd be willing to play a game like MO; but the lack of community support is pretty bland. I love games that don't hold you hand, like MO does, but there's a difference between taking time to learn, and wasteing time figuring out. I attempted to find some helpful guides or video series, but not much of anything that really helped. That's why I love EvE, so much community assistance, it's impossible to fail.

Heres a Basic Mechanics guide http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxxFoHKqq0c&feature=relmfu?hd=1 

Character Creation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFeGzM-_BAM&feature=relmfu

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There is also a guild called "New" that the community created for that specific purpose.

yea joining the guild NEW found in fab would solve msot of your issues with learning the game.