I'm looking for a new home until GW2 or beyond. I like that this mmo seems old school, and more about community.

 

I just watched a few Youtube videos and I have a few questions :

 

1) Most populated server for the US ?...I have a feeling their are very few servers, thats a good thing if so.

2) No classes, however I was watching a Youtube character creation video and they made a Melee fighter. I don't understand if their are no classes. Could this be just to start, and you could develop into anything ?

3) Free to level 125....OK with this, I would have to find the community, a guild and hopefully one with Ventrilo. Would this be ok on a free trial ?.....I Play mmos for community and playing together with others.....I am not the type looking for free hand outs. And I would to sub if I know their is a community.

4) Player search tools....I played Vanguard with it's low population. I am the king of finding others to play with and group. I'm good at getting groups together using social panels.....Does this game have a good player search tool ?

5) Very important : Dungeons ?, Lots of Dungeons ?, Deep and hard Dungeons ?........Yes or no ?

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Originally posted by delete5230
1) Most populated server for the US ?...I have a feeling their are very few servers, thats a good thing if so.

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3 servers, 1 english, 1 french, 1 german language, pick one. :)

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Originally posted by delete5230
2) No classes, however I was watching a Youtube character creation video and they made a Melee fighter. I don't understand if their are no classes. Could this be just to start, and you could develop into anything ?

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I don't know the video, they prolly only picked melee fighter as starter set, starter sets just give you something to start with, once you've got a few skill levels it doesn't matter. Most people pick the crafter starter set because you get materials and tools with it.

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Originally posted by delete5230
3) Free to level 125....OK with this, I would have to find the community, a guild and hopefully one with Ventrilo. Would this be ok on a free trial ?.....I Play mmos for community and playing together with others.....I am not the type looking for free hand outs. And I would to sub if I know their is a community.

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Frankly, the free game play is fine in the beginning, but when you stay for any longer than a few weeks you need to subscribe, not for the skill cap but for the pack animals that you can only buy when you have a subscription. Guilds are plenty, but I don't know how many are using voice chat. Ryzomers are old-fashioned. :)

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Originally posted by delete5230
4) Player search tools....I played Vanguard with it's low population. I am the king of finding others to play with and group. I'm good at getting groups together using social panels.....Does this game have a good player search tool ?

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Join a guild and use region chat. :)

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Originally posted by delete5230
5) Very important : Dungeons ?, Lots of Dungeons ?, Deep and hard Dungeons ?........Yes or no ?

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Nope, you can have it as difficult as you want but not in a dungeon. Atys is a living planet.

You can make just a melee fighter if you want. or just magic. I imagine just crafter as well.

Hay thanks so far guys :)

So far I'm about level 12 and loving the game. But I have a few more questions.

1) Races....Since the population is low I would like to play the most popular race. However, I'm a little confused if it matters. Because I THINK you will be able to play with all races, But since you have PvP you would think their are factions that are the enemy.  So if you have to pick a race and only play with that race, what one is the most populated ?

2) So you can play to level 125 of 250, thats half the game, but is it also 21 days or is that old information ? 

3) I think it's best to stay on the noob area until level 25, right ?

 

For anyone else that is new .  Here is a very good but long tutorial video, It's best to stick it out and  view the entire video.

http://www.twitch.tv/massivelytv/b/306747552 

 

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Originally posted by delete5230
...So far I'm about level 12 and loving the game. But I have a few more questions.

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Just a reminder: Ryzom doesn't know character levels, only skill levels. You can be melee 34, ranged 23, offensive magic 45 (just examples) or any other combination of all skills in the game. Saying "I'm level 12" doesn't really mean anything because a melee 12 character that also has skills in ranged or magic is more advanced than a character that only has reached 12 in one skill.

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Originally posted by delete5230
1) Races....Since the population is low I would like to play the most popular race. However, I'm a little confused if it matters. Because I THINK you will be able to play with all races, But since you have PvP you would think their are factions that are the enemy.  So if you have to pick a race and only play with that race, what one is the most populated ?

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Ryzom doesn't really have faction PvP. Most PvP in game is about guild outposts, i.e. guild vs. guild - and it isn't that frequent either. You can also flag yourself for open world PvP. That said, guilds have an allegiance with one of the NPC factions, Karavan or Kami, read about them on the island. Qua population, Zorai are the least common played (I reckon their face mask causes that people cannot connect well to a Zorai character).

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Originally posted by delete5230
2) So you can play to level 125 of 250, thats half the game, but is it also 21 days or is that old information ?

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There is no time limit. As far as I know the free play limits you to skill level 125. As I said before, far before you get to that skill level you will want pack animals that you can only buy when you're a subscriber.

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Originally posted by delete5230
3)I think it's best to stay on the noob area until level 25, right ? ...

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Best ask in region chat. The mainlands are by far more dangerous than the island, with the Tryker mainland arguably the easiest of the mainlands (because you can flee into water). Personally I've always had the habit to leave the newbie area as soon as possible, wasn't always a good idea though. :)

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Originally posted by delete5230
I'm looking for a new home until GW2 or beyond. I like that this mmo seems old school, and more about community.

 

I just watched a few Youtube videos and I have a few questions :

 

1) Most populated server for the US ?...I have a feeling their are very few servers, thats a good thing if so.

2) No classes, however I was watching a Youtube character creation video and they made a Melee fighter. I don't understand if their are no classes. Could this be just to start, and you could develop into anything ?

3) Free to level 125....OK with this, I would have to find the community, a guild and hopefully one with Ventrilo. Would this be ok on a free trial ?.....I Play mmos for community and playing together with others.....I am not the type looking for free hand outs. And I would to sub if I know their is a community.

4) Player search tools....I played Vanguard with it's low population. I am the king of finding others to play with and group. I'm good at getting groups together using social panels.....Does this game have a good player search tool ?

5) Very important : Dungeons ?, Lots of Dungeons ?, Deep and hard Dungeons ?........Yes or no ?

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I am still new, but I like to go back and play a couple hours ever couple days or so. It's fun.

Your server will be Arispotle...if you want English that is. The community is smaller but more closely knit.

There are no classes, only skills. You have no restrictions on skills, there are no limits, or set amount of skill sets. You want to be melee, skill up melee, you want to be a mage, skill up magic, you want to craft, skill up harvesting and crafting. (Crafting system is second to none. Extremely deep) You can do all of them at the same time. It takes longer that way, but there is also no need to rush it either.

I am currently playing the free game too. If I stick with it, I'll have no issue subscribing when the time comes.

4 and 5, I'll defer to someoen with more experience.

Thanks again......I'm still doing the noob area, I'm staying their until I understand most everything. This may be the hardest mmo I ever played and loving it.

 

More questions :

1) Stanza system....WoW, I'm having a hard time understanding it.  The tutorial is still hard to understand...Could someone please explain it better, or refer me to a good web site ?

2) I'm very social.  This game does not have a Search panel to find others.  I'll have to figure out how to group and make friends soon. 

The game is not about levels in a way, it's hard to explain......But I will have to find people my level to play with.  How do you find who is what ?

Yesterday someone advertised to help.  I asked him, and he was nice.  I asked him what level he was.  And he is like, What ? He did not understand my question, Next he told me That he was a level 50 he guessed.  I don't understand this concept !

 

Hehe, 5230, speak with me: there is NO such thing as a character level in Ryzom. :)

The concept of a character level (as we know it from many RPGs) does not exist in Ryzom. Characters do not have levels, characters have skills, and skills have levels. Furthermore, skills branch into sub-skills and sub-skills of sub-skills as you progress in Atys.

Look at the Ryzom skill tree on the Ballistic Mystix website (it's one of the larger guilds in Ryzom, perhaps even the largest one, I don't really know) here: http://ballisticmystix.net/?p=skilltree. Expand the skill tree via "Open all" and you see the complete skill tree. As far as I know nobody ever managed to max all skills in Ryzom, and the game is 8 years old by now. BTW, the Ballistic Mystix website holds a host of other very useful information, highly recommended to bookmark it.

Ad Stanzas: there's actually a good newcomer guide in the stickied thread here in this forum, I recommend you read it. In my own words:

In Ryzom a character action (fight, magic, prospect, harvest, craft) is built out of one or more stanzas. You buy actions and stanzas from the respective trainers for skill points. Let's use melee fight as example. You get your run-of-the-mill auto-attack but that doesn't do much. Sooner or later you'll get Increase Damage or Accurate Attack stanzas that you will want to use. There's a cost to use these better melee actions. You pay this cost with credit that equally comes in the form of stanzas, for example a stanza that pays with your characters stamina. Thus you combine stanzas that cost and stanzas that credit into a new action that you can use during melee fight.

Actions can have many stanzas. For example my character (mostly 2 dagger weilding Tryker) has an action that combines Accurate Attack, Increased Damage and Ignore Armour on the cost side, and pays with On Dodge and Stamina on the credit side. Of course I can only use that action after I've actually dodged an attack by the mob (or player in PvP). Now, some mobs have resistances to piercing, thus my character uses a 2-handed pike (slashing) when fighting those. For that he has an action that combines Accurate Attack, Increase Damage and Bleed on the cost side and pays for it with Stamina and On Parry. Of course I use this action after I parried an attack.

Ad.: How to find others. Easy, watch your chat window, on the island use region chat to find other people. The universe channel is the Q&A (Questions and Answers) channel. Feel free to ask questions about gameplay there, people will answer. Join a guild when you're on the mainland, just ask in region or universe chat.

Please note that because there are no character levels it's possible that characters of vastly different experience can group together. For example, say you have melee fight round 50 and group with someone that has healing magic round 50. It doesn't matter whether the healer has also melee fight 250: when he plays the healing role he gets his skill increases just like you, only in a different skill.

[Edit. Here's a list of guilds in Ryzom on the Arispotle server: http://en.ryzomnomnom.com/wiki/Guilds/Arispotle ]

Ok Larsa, You got your point across THEIR ARE NO LEVELS, but it's a hard pill to swallow. Somewhere on the net I found an article that it's recommended to have your fighting or magic SKILLS at least 25 before leaving the starting area, so I ran with that :)

Well, with someone helping me complete all the missions given by the Fighter trainer, I was able to get the best sward in the trial area.  However I can't equip it yet because my fighting skill is too low ( currently 19 ).  So in a way, to fight better I would need to get my fighting skill higher to use the weapon their-fore stronger. So to me it's still like levels.

Please don't think I'm arguing. I'm just stubborn, your telling me, the in game guy is telling me, I'll let go soon.  So I guess you could say, that everyone can play with anyone. It's more a matter of  tailoring you abilities by using Stanzas to be a better player. 

By the way, thank you :)

Originally posted by delete5230

Ok Larsa, You got your point across THEIR ARE NO LEVELS, but it's a hard pill to swallow. Somewhere on the net I found an article that it's recommended to have your fighting or magic SKILLS at least 25 before leaving the starting area, so I ran with that :)

Well, with someone helping me complete all the missions given by the Fighter trainer, I was able to get the best sward in the trial area.  However I can't equip it yet because my fighting skill is too low ( currently 19 ).  So in a way, to fight better I would need to get my fighting skill higher to use the weapon their-fore stronger. So to me it's still like levels.

Please don't think I'm arguing. I'm just stubborn, your telling me, the in game guy is telling me, I'll let go soon.  So I guess you could say, that everyone can play with anyone. It's more a matter of  tailoring you abilities by using Stanzas to be a better player. 

By the way, thank you :)

 

Usually when someone says they are a certain level they add the skill as well.  So they will say something like "I'm level 30 melee".  That way you can look at what skills you have and decide what you have that will complement them.  For instance you may be level 100 in Elemental magic which would be too high for the other person but you may still be level 25 in heals which would be a perfect fit.  This is generally what people mean when they ask what levels you are.

 

There is no LFG tool.  You're going to have to use /who and chat to find a group.

 

As far as what level to leave Silan there isn't any one level that is better than the other (see what i did there ).  You wil hit a point of diminishing returns on how much xp you get though.  But if you do stick it out and finish Chiangs missions you get a nice set of armor for your trouble but you have to be at least level 30 to even begin some of them.

Thanks Ludis,

I like another point of view of how group's work.

I talked a co-worker into playing Ryzom. But working too much overtime to play, but were both planning on playing when we have time.

Now were both playing diffrient starting areas.  When we make it to the real world I take it that we can get togeather. Am I right ?

 I'll have to do some research of the map system, first chance I get.

  When you leave Silan you will need to both go to the same land to play together right away.

Veteran players do trek new players from land to land off and on -- usually its guilds trekking their new memebers.

The only thing that gets hurt not going to your own land is crafting, so if your willing to put off

leveling up crafting till you get trekked to your own land its no big deal to go to another land fron Silan.

You can always try trekking yourself too and it can be fun to try but most new players find it frustrating pretty fast.

   Silan is basically a tutorail to get you started.

I usually reccommend finishing at least the fight and maic trainer missions for their equipment rewards if nothing else.

The Harvest and Craft trainer missions are good too if one doesn't just find the missions frustrating.

If your enjoying Silan, stay there till you find it too easy or too slow to level.

The Chiang missions are tough and the last couple pretty much require a group or very high level skill for Silan.

The Kami and Karavan missions are just a taste of what thier missions are like on mainland.

If your not enjoying Silan but still want to try more - come to the mainland -- its playable at lev 1.

btw, there are information stands next to the trainers that have a lot of information that you learn from the missions.

   Also any player can align with any civilization or cult. And can change it if they like ( with effort of course ).

The main PvP is the Outpost battles which are basically guild v guild with others able to help whichever guild they like.

There is tagged PvP which is cult alignment mainly but can be alterred by being in a team and or league as best as i can tell from reading upm on it.

There are some players that do enjoy the tagged PvP off and on.

Sometimes players will fight for control fo a city while tagged.

Originally posted by Tuyet

  When you leave Silan you will need to both go to the same land to play together right away.

Veteran players do trek new players from land to land off and on -- usually its guilds trekking their new memebers.

The only thing that gets hurt not going to your own land is crafting, so if your willing to put off

leveling up crafting till you get trekked to your own land its no big deal to go to another land fron Silan.

You can always try trekking yourself too and it can be fun to try but most new players find it frustrating pretty fast.

   Silan is basically a tutorail to get you started.

I usually reccommend finishing at least the fight and maic trainer missions for their equipment rewards if nothing else.

The Harvest and Craft trainer missions are good too if one doesn't just find the missions frustrating.

If your enjoying Silan, stay there till you find it too easy or too slow to level.

The Chiang missions are tough and the last couple pretty much require a group or very high level skill for Silan.

The Kami and Karavan missions are just a taste of what thier missions are like on mainland.

If your not enjoying Silan but still want to try more - come to the mainland -- its playable at lev 1.

btw, there are information stands next to the trainers that have a lot of information that you learn from the missions.

   Also any player can align with any civilization or cult. And can change it if they like ( with effort of course ).

The main PvP is the Outpost battles which are basically guild v guild with others able to help whichever guild they like.

There is tagged PvP which is cult alignment mainly but can be alterred by being in a team and or league as best as i can tell from reading upm on it.

There are some players that do enjoy the tagged PvP off and on.

Sometimes players will fight for control fo a city while tagged.

Thanks Tuyet

I copy and pasted to an e-mail to send to my job.  So my friend and I could discuss this :)

I've been playing a few months now. I picked it up to fill the slot between other games. But Ryzom just keeps getting better.  I can see myself not needing that other game. While the steep learning curve and starting off weak compared to your environment, it's initially a bit frustrating,  you will get more skills and increase your base stats by upgrading them at the trainers. Also, get better equipment. and learn the game. it just get sreally interesting as you progress. 

 

The best thing about Ryzom is that you don't have to stick with one path. What ever it is you want to do in the game, you can just start doing it. If you level as a melee fighter and decide you want to switch to casting.....Start casting. That's all there is. No specs, no class builds. You can't screw it up. Not permanently anyway. If you make a mistake, you just put more XP into fixing it. Since there are no caps, any mistake is only temporary.  And don't be afraid of your chat. It's your best weapon and your best defense. Nothing takes down tough mobs faster than teamates.