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OP  9/16/11 3:02:05 PM#1

There are reasons for the title of this thread and I will list them here:

 

1. The company which is currently operating the game is selling a subscription and in-game items while calling the game a "beta".

2. Over the past one-two months, most of developments have come in the form of cash shop items and in-game advertising for subscriptions, while easy-to-fix bugs e.g. mission bugs remain.

3. The population is waning significantly and to add salt to the wound, a SIGNIFICANT portion of the population hacks (roughly 20-30% on Patriot, 15-20% on Obeya, 5-10% on Colby/Joker).

4. Bad game design:

  a. Kicking

     Higher ranked (called threat level) players can kick other players they receive as backup, or players they are randomly grouped with upon the start of an opposed mission. However, once a person is kicked he receives a penalty to his threat level, which again makes him more "kickable" and more likely to be kicked by others. This leads to a vicious cycle of newer players perpetually being kicked, styming any chance of ever raising in threat level.

      Some people kick just to grief, or get higher rewards (although they should have fixed it by now). This essentially makes it a very frustrating experience for players who aren't with a group of friends, or are not skilled and starting out.

b. Exploitable Maps/Objects/Weapons

    You can shoot through various objects in the game that would make on sense in real life e.g. fences, gates etc. 

    There are also spots in the game where it is nearly impossible to scale without going up one way, which essentially makes it hard-impossible for a team sans rocket launcher (which is a VERY late game item that is expensive to boot) to access those spots and again favors people who have been playing the game a much longer time than you might have.

    There are also weapons that are semi-auto and require a very fast index finger to master, however, certain individuals use macros that fire more quickly than humanely possible and this makes those semi-auto weapons more powerful than intended i.e. you will lose with an automatic to a semi-auto in situations where it wasn't obviously intended. Some of the pay weapons are ridiculously powerful compared to their in-game counterparts, but this is to be expected being a pay-to-win game.

    Exploiting the game is not penalized and it is the way of APB to learn all of it's flaws and exploit them to defeat the opponent, sadly.

c. Controls and Performance

    Sadly the game hardly has any graphics settings, although it ironically uses one of the most customizable engines on the market. Performance also tends to be an issue, since people with well over 6 gigs of ram are finding themselves running out of memory due to memory leaks and the game itself is extremely CPU/GPU intensive. If you're not running a decent quad-core processor, 6 gigs of ram and 1 Gig Nvidia card, then you can forget about any kind of good performance without manually editing the ini files and getting something that looks like Everquest.

  The controls are also not very responsive compared to other shooters and the hit boxes are very large and strange; you can often hit people in weird locations, or get hit behind walls due to latency/false walls. Getting in a vehicle usually takes a while and running behind cover usually results in you dead due to a significant lag between your location and the bullet's velocity.

 Crouching can be buggy and driving a porsche (bishada/jericho/cisco) feels like driving a freight truck on ice.

 The physics are also completely wonky/trivialized, since your entire vehicle will act like a single particle and be flipped over by the slightest nudge/walkway (depending on type as well).

 

d. Limited Replay Value (Content)

   There are essentially two maps that could be approximated by two 1x1 KM squares. The other activities in the game involve running a vehicle into stores and mugging people if you're a criminal, while enforcers (cops) can only witness them doing it  (which forces them into a mission against them) and otherwise have nothing else to do. Once you've seen all of the missions and area, then you've seen the entire game.

  The game is essentially a big TF2 map with some nice RP elements, yet nothing to really interact with them. You'll hear people call you various expletives in various languages, yet you can only kill/mug them. If there is one good thing about the game it's the immersive quality it has and the awesome voice acting (well compared to other MMO's at least).

 

 

 

 

 

 

APB is a fun game, but it would not surprise me at all if it were to shut down due to the aforementioned. Spend your money elsewhere. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  Madimorga

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10/01/11 2:31:03 PM#2

Kicking is the only one on your list that I find truly unacceptable.  I'm going to check out APB again, seeing as how the hackers are supposedly severely thinned out now, but they really need to change the way calling in and kicking players works.

I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.

~Albert Einstein

  PioneerStew

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10/01/11 2:35:19 PM#3
Originally posted by Madimorga

Kicking is the only one on your list that I find truly unacceptable.  I'm going to check out APB again, seeing as how the hackers are supposedly severely thinned out now, but they really need to change the way calling in and kicking players works.

hehe Mad is back. 

  eyelolled

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10/01/11 2:45:41 PM#4

I agree with two main points of the OP.

 

Kicking is a stupid mechanic.

 

APB is a fun game.

All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

  StoneRoses

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10/01/11 2:46:50 PM#5

You don't need to spend money on this game at all!

Once you have unlocked T2 unslotted weapons and with the right mods you are good to go.

Far as Higher Lvl players kicking lower levels, depending on the last stage of the mission some players can become a liabilty and ruin it for High level players who are looking to keep their ranking statues. Especially when the game is tight and people don't listen or they just die way too much. They will kick you to find someone better if they have too. There are some serious gamers out there.

 

  PioneerStew

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10/01/11 2:48:34 PM#6

Simple point is, people who write shit before they post it, I am not a fucking moron and probably know what you gonna say...

  eyelolled

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10/01/11 2:50:23 PM#7
Originally posted by Slowdoves

You don't need to spend money on this game at all!

Once you have unlocked T2 unslotted weapons and with the right mods you are good to go.

Far as Higher Lvl players kicking lower levels, depending on the last stage of the mission some players can become a liabilty and ruin it for High level players who are looking to keep their ranking statues. Especially when the game is tight and people don't listen or they just die way too much. They will kick you to find someone better if they have too. There are some serious gamers out there.

 

It's not the fact of being able to kick a player, it's that the kicked player takes a hit on their threat.

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  syntax42

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10/01/11 2:55:45 PM#8
Originally posted by //\\//\\oo

There are reasons for the title of this thread and I will list them here:

 

1. The company which is currently operating the game is selling a subscription and in-game items while calling the game a "beta".

2. Over the past one-two months, most of developments have come in the form of cash shop items and in-game advertising for subscriptions, while easy-to-fix bugs e.g. mission bugs remain.

3. The population is waning significantly and to add salt to the wound, a SIGNIFICANT portion of the population hacks (roughly 20-30% on Patriot, 15-20% on Obeya, 5-10% on Colby/Joker).

1.  Asian MMOs have been doing this for years.  Look for any of the F2P games in beta.  If you need a specific game, look at Eden Eternal.  The only problem I have with this policy of making money during a beta is when they do a character wipe at the end of beta.  I can't remember that ever happening, though, because people would be very angry if they spent real money only to have their character wiped.

 

2.  It is called "priorities", "skill sets", and "development teams".  Not everyone at a company has the skills to write programming code.  Development teams work on different projects simultaneously.  Whatever is easier to implement usually gets first place in the priority list for pushing to live servers.  Almost anyone on the street can draw a design for a t-shirt or weapon skin to sell in a cash shop, but only a few people actually have the programming skills to fix bugs.  Stop complaining and get your expectations down to reality.

 

3.  Screenshot or it didn't happen.  I used to think everyone in Counter-Strike hacked.  Then, I got one of the hacks myself just to see what I thought I was up against.  It was quite easy to tell who had aim bots and wall hacks after using them for a little bit.  However, it turned out that the majority of the people I thought were hacking were just that good and I sucked.  Get better or rage quit.

  Madimorga

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10/03/11 8:58:22 PM#9
Originally posted by PioneerStew

Simple point is, people who write shit before they post it, I am not a fucking moron and probably know what you gonna say...

 

Were you wrote when you drunk this?

I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.

~Albert Einstein

  psyfighter

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11/04/11 8:47:27 PM#10
Originally posted by Madimorga
Originally posted by PioneerStew

Simple point is, people who write shit before they post it, I am not a fucking moron and probably know what you gonna say...

 

Were you wrote when you drunk this?

i don't get what he's saying and im drunk.

  Fdzzaigl

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11/07/11 3:28:36 PM#11

I quit (again) months ago.

 

But the thing I found most annoying was the graphics in the end. Here you are playing a game that came out more than a year ago, but even if you can play crysis, or other games that came out later and look much much nicer than APB on max or ultra, if you're not on a 64bit system, you're screwed.

The game will automatically lower your graphics settings immensely, making everything a blurry mess. So you'll find yourself spending hours designing that incredibly complex amazing looking outfit and trying it on in the actual game, only to find out you look like some acid pumped pigeon shat a mystical rainbow on top of you.

Thing is, most people still run 32bit, so most people are screwed. APB looks good, but not good enough to justify its graphics limitations.

In fact, I modded my .ini to lift those limits at some point and the game ran better than before, though it just loves to crash now.

Feel free to use my referral link for SW:TOR if you want to test out the game. You'll get some special unlocks!