its no where near a fps game.

i expected it to play like socom but, its nowhere near that either.

it's a broke back wannabe shooter.

Originally posted by Kebeck

Matchmaking works great.. A few things to consider though..

- It's easier to play in group.. You'll need a lot of tactics, flanking in APB which you can't do alone..

- When looking for a group, always try getting people of the same threat level (bronze, silver, gold).. Even with only one gold threat player, you risk on getting matched against other gold players..

- Use the friend list when you find nice (and good) players in the game.. Before joining a district, check who's online and join their district.. Join their team or send whispers asking to group up with them..

- If you have a mic.. USE IT.. If you don't, try to give simple indications when you spot ennemies through the group chat..

- When in missions, don't stay in the open, hug walls, spot covers and move between them.. It's a 3rd person shooters, use the camera at your advantage..

- Watch the radar.. Ennemies appear on the radar when in cars and when they're shooting..

- Watch your back.. People like to flank and go around... Unless you have really good teammates, don't ever suppose your back is being watched.

- Get a primary weapon that fits your playstyle.. If you like going for objectives, get a shotgun or a SMG.. If you're more the support type, get a sniper or a long range gun.. If you're whatever in between, get an assault gun.. It's your best bet...

- Get a secondary weapon that covers the flaws of your primary gun.. If you have a sniper, go for a short range gun with high fire rate.. If you have a shotgun, try to get a secondary gun that will give you a bit more range..

- Try to find a good clan with which to team up.. Playing over and over with the same people will give you an edge in battle since you'll have a good idea of what your teammates will do in any given situation.. Again, use your mic..

- Don't be shy to ask for feedbacks from your clan mates..

- Finally.. APB is a competitive online shooter.. So unless you're really good, you'll die.. A lot.. And lose games.. And play along complete jerks.. Welcome to the internet.. Remember it's a game and even though you're losing, you're still progressing in the game, though more slowly than when winning..

 

Now go out there and have fun..

Originally posted by spfil

Originally posted by Aconsar

Originally posted by spfil

Having played APB originally I was happy to hear it was coming back and was looking forward to playing the new and improved APB...

 

Apart from the installation issues which took the best part of seven hours to fix (with advice from other players as the actual game support team does seem to post on the forums) I finally got into the game. Spent 10 minutes or so working on my avatar and then worked through the tutorial.

Well, the game is less laggy then it used to be and the driving does seem better, but the combat? Yeah...it's a joke. This is not a newbie friendly game. I've heard from a lot of people that I just need to persevere and learn all the weaponry? Fuck it, I can't be bothered.

Unless your idea of fun is going into the match system only to get facerolled by vastly better equipped/skilled/leveled opponents then I'd look else where. I've spent the better part of three days now trying to work my way through this and it's just bullshit. If it's one vs one, I lose. My opponent will commonly have three times my threat level and will know the level backwards.

There's no incentive to learn, not at the cost of dealing with a community that seems to have come from League of Legends.

Funny, because I jumped in with no combat experience with a basic character with my friend who was mid silver tier and was killing people who were higher than him.  Maybe you're just bad?

Really? I detect bullshit. The matchmaking system is a joke, it really is.

i have to agree matchmaking sytem too often picks players more higher an equipment and rank than you are, also amount of hacks and ers is shit. its a good game i like counter strike vs gta vs need for speed kinda combination.

punkbuster is not really number one software i would use eventho i think there is no protection for twats to program always more hacking software so wea are in limbo. if the game dont include very active gm working . also seems to me that g1 is not gona bother to erase or monitor so much for hacking anyways.

cheers

Don't bother? Because you cannot handle losing other people shouldn't try the game? Please go back to random PvE game where everyone is a winner because obviously this game is not for you :)

I don't see why some people are having so much trouble with this game, I started playing a few days ago and once you get the hang of it, you can hold your own as long as this is not your first shooter.

Perhaps the people that are complaining about constantly getting facerolled are the standard fare MMO players who are accustomed to your typical selected target MMO pvp. With the possible exception of percussion grenades and other explosives, unlocked weapons do not seem very overpowered to me when compared to the newb items.

This game barely qualifies as a MMO in my opinion, this game has a closer resemblence to the battlefield series than it does most MMO's I've played. So if you wouldn't expect to jump into battlefield and do well, don't expect it here, especially with matchmaking the way it is currently, but it's beta.

Ever since GTA3 came out when I was a kid, I dreamed of a game that played like GTA but was massively online where you could run around a city and do missions against other real players. All things considered, I think this game does an excellent job of fulfilling that role, and while there are still some issues to be worked out, this game is a gem even it in its current state.

Bottom line, if you can't stand losing and trying to get better, good riddance. I'd hate to see how you fair in a game like League of Legends.

Originally posted by Dreeb

Ever since GTA3 came out when I was a kid...

GTA3: 2002 for Windows. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_III

Which means you're still a kid.

Originally posted by Rhianne

Originally posted by Dreeb

Ever since GTA3 came out when I was a kid...

GTA3: 2002 for Windows. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_III

Which means you're still a kid.

I'm 28...

And that's a pretty ironic thing to say considering what an immature argument tactic that is. Are you implying that if I was a kid then my argument would be irrelevent based on that fact?

I want to play this game now.  The positive posts seem to point out that it's a challenging game, not for the casual gamer and takes more than just pressing down your mouse button and spraying bullets at your enemy to win.

It also sounds like even some sparkly super weapons can be outmatched by guns you get near the start of the game so it's not unbalanced in the gear aspect.

I always loved customization, giving myself that unique look in a game, so that's a big smiley face from me.

Apparently some sort of match making system is unfair blah blah and they're working on perfecting it.  Really haven't heard any issues and this matchmaking thing will apparently be a great benefit in the future.

What's the community like then?  If it requires time, tactics and an actual brain to play the game surely at the top end, when I've learned to play, I could expect some generally clever people to be around?  It's not a huge downfall if there's the usual internet community there, 90% are trolling flamers and 10% are genuinely fun smart people, just curious.

Originally posted by futnatus

I want to play this game now.  The positive posts seem to point out that it's a challenging game, not for the casual gamer and takes more than just pressing down your mouse button and spraying bullets at your enemy to win.

It also sounds like even some sparkly super weapons can be outmatched by guns you get near the start of the game so it's not unbalanced in the gear aspect.

I always loved customization, giving myself that unique look in a game, so that's a big smiley face from me.

 

Apparently some sort of match making system is unfair blah blah and they're working on perfecting it.  Really haven't heard any issues and this matchmaking thing will apparently be a great benefit in the future.

What's the community like then?  If it requires time, tactics and an actual brain to play the game surely at the top end, when I've learned to play, I could expect some generally clever people to be around?  It's not a huge downfall if there's the usual internet community there, 90% are trolling flamers and 10% are genuinely fun smart people, just curious.

It's difficult for me to speak for the community because I have a friend that I play with all the time, we just team up and run missions together on skype, and man is it FUN. This game is really great for teaming up with friends, as you are not restricted by quest lines like most MMO's. (None of the "Are you on this quest? No? Oh well ok thx for group kbye!")

I'm sure if you are fun to play with, you will find other fun people to play with as well. I willl say though, I see district chat all the time with "GG", "nice match", "close one", etc etc.

This game is F2P so get out of the forums already and get playing! You have nothing to lose. :)

APB:Reloaded is currently P2W. On top of that, the cheaters/hackers are having a hay-day. The group of people I play with decided it is not worth the headaches.

I didn't even do the tutorials... and I did fine. If u are an FPS gamer, this game is easy. The weapons in APB hardly have recoil... lol. And it doesn't matter if u dont know the mission objective, just kill and do what they ask. All i hear is QQ, without strategies on APB, you are going to get facerolled 

There are some serious problems with APB.

When I played APB when it was first released, and RTW still owned it, I enjoy it, and really did like it a lot, but then everyone started using an Aimbot from one of those 3 cheaters sites that constantly updates cheats subscription based, and the game became no fun because the only way to compete with cheaters was to cheat back or loose, and like over 90% of the players i saw were using Aimbot.

Now APB Is owned by gamers first, and G1 has done nothing but ruin the game, they have brought nothing new to APB like it is still Match Make based game like Global Agenda, the only difference is that you can drive around in a district, and shoot people, but APB Doesn't feel enough like Saints Row, OR GTA, it feels more like a piece of shit because there are no rewards in the game for anything really, you get no Real Money from Mugging NPC's, and it isn't a game like Cops N Robbers, instead it feels dull.

Let me explain this a bit.

Besides the fact that almost every time I play in a district I end up running into a group of WallHackers/Cheaters each and every time, Loose TL to them, and can obviously see their cheats the game itself is no fun like again I get no rewards for doing anything, and this game could be designed to be more fun instead of a generic DULL Game.

1. What about installing actual shops in game, what about Mini Games like hostage taking, Bank Robberies, or any of that kinda thing where enforcers can witness it, and stop the robbers etc.

2. What about FREE 4 All Districts, all out war Crims VS Enforcer, You can shoot anyone you want, and its WAR.

3. What about the witness system which is broken, for example if I kill a NPC, or commit a crime in this game, enforcers have like 3-5 seconds to witness me, even if they didn't see it on their screen this system is broken.

4. What about New Missions, CTF, Drug Runs, actual missions instead of just going from point A, Killing a few people going to point B, dropping off some items it gets boring.

5. What about G1 removing cowboy hats from the regular store, and putting in items shop as item shop items.

6. Why does G1 charge RL money for piece of crap guns that are premod, which a person can't change the mods, and why don't they just keep all guns for sale 24/7 so people can buy what they like when they want it instead of we offer this gun this week next we offer another, its insane.

7. Why don't premium subscribers get much at all, what about new clothing, better customization, what about allowing customizations to preset, allowing more clothing sets in locker room or those quick swap outfit things, and what about giving us alternate appearances for our characters as premium subscribers so we can easily swap between more than one character size, shape, etc.

The game play of this game in general lacks a lot, there is no Blowouts, can't shoot people through glass, No skill involved, Tons of people abusing Exploits & Hacks to this game.

I would love to see this game become popular again, but it won't, and it is sad that G1 is allowing the game to go down the drain, I actually just played the game for about 4 hours out of boredom yesterday, and still didn't see any type of good changes that would make the game fun.

Also when I Played this week for some reason it seems that a lot of the player base itself has quit this game as there were a lot more districts gone compared to when I first played when APB Reloaded was released.

1. What about installing actual shops in game, what about Mini Games like hostage taking, Bank Robberies, or any of that kinda thing where enforcers can witness it, and stop the robbers etc.

I agree with this point

2. What about FREE 4 All Districts, all out war Crims VS Enforcer, You can shoot anyone you want, and its WAR.

I'm pretty sure they've already announced this, in the form of an all out war district, with capturable territories.

3. What about the witness system which is broken, for example if I kill a NPC, or commit a crime in this game, enforcers have like 3-5 seconds to witness me, even if they didn't see it on their screen this system is broken.

Fair enough.

4. What about New Missions, CTF, Drug Runs, actual missions instead of just going from point A, Killing a few people going to point B, dropping off some items it gets boring.

Granted, the raids, etc can get pretty boring, but I'm never bored when my team is doing well. Never.

5. What about G1 removing cowboy hats from the regular store, and putting in items shop as item shop items.

?            No comment. 

6. Why does G1 charge RL money for piece of crap guns that are premod, which a person can't change the mods, and why don't they just keep all guns for sale 24/7 so people can buy what they like when they want it instead of we offer this gun this week next we offer another, its insane.

It's not really insanse. I prefer it this way; as do many others.

7. Why don't premium subscribers get much at all, what about new clothing, better customization, what about allowing customizations to preset, allowing more clothing sets in locker room or those quick swap outfit things, and what about giving us alternate appearances for our characters as premium subscribers so we can easily swap between more than one character size, shape, etc.

They get faster XP, more money for missions,  much cheaper items from the store (-20%) and better customization (more decals, etc).

The game play of this game in general lacks a lot, there is no Blowouts, can't shoot people through glass, No skill involved, Tons of people abusing Exploits & Hacks to this game.

There's tonnes of skill involved. Good twitch players really stand out. You can shoot through fences, etc, rip cars to pieces with guns... I have genuinely no idea what your problem is with it. Sure, there are a few cheaters, but I'm willing to bet that 50% of the people you assume are cheating are just better than you. 

I would love to see this game become popular again, but it won't, and it is sad that G1 is allowing the game to go down the drain, I actually just played the game for about 4 hours out of boredom yesterday, and still didn't see any type of good changes that would make the game fun.

The game IS popular. I can log onto the Euro server at 4am GMT (when all the europeans are still in bed), and there will always be full districts. 

Also when I Played this week for some reason it seems that a lot of the player base itself has quit this game as there were a lot more districts gone compared to when I first played when APB Reloaded was released.

Rubbish. Of course there's going to be a drop after a couple of months. Deal with it.

Skimmed this thread and been playing it casually for a month now...   Pretty much everything, particularly the "L2P" in this thread points rigth back to the OP's entire point:   It currently IS NOT newbie friendly.  Its learning-curve is not quite near the steepness of the original EVE, but it's also no where near where it should be to keep attracting more players and that's a real problem right now b/c it's Population has been dropping by 25% every week which just makes the curve even steeper for any newbies who are trying it now.

Add to that the increase in hack use among existing members or the pressure n00bs feel to get scripts just to get a leg up.    Sure, someone who's got good reflexes & tactics from other games can come right into this one and get some kills on those upper-Tier guys despite their Triple-Mod Ntecs & Osmaws.  I do and I'm a very mediocre FPS'er despite a decade of practice.   But the reality is that they'll be progressing at such a retardedly slow rate from losing so often that they'll have to ask themselves why they're even bothering.  Or worse:  they'll constantly get teamed against those God-tier players who are so damn good that Hacks would only slow them down.  ...yes such players EXIST and it's really easy to get matched against them in this game even when you've only been playing for 1 day.

   Bottom Line is:  A Newbie can't learn ANYTHING from being matched against a seasoned pro b/c the Pro's tactics are so far beyond them that they can't even figure out why they're losing.  It's like in every Anime ever where the protagonsist gets their first glimpse of the FINAL BOSS too early in the series and doesn't learn a goddamned thing from the extreme asskicking he recieves and then you see them spend 2 whole seasons just working up through the Boss's minions to get to the point where they can visibibly recognize how the Boss beat them so easily the first time.   Well in this game all you DO is fight that End-Boss half the time.  Want a stepping stone?? Here buy this $60 gun and pray its hidden stats are enough, LOL.

Hopefully the patch that's supposed to come out next week (assuming they get the Crashing issues under control) will alleviate a lot of those issues though and allow newbies to start off the game playing against other ACTUAL newbies MOST of the time.

Funny, because all the complaints on the official forums are inevitably answered by devs/moderators with "this is beta. we are still working on it".

Since OB has begun, they have opened a continually updated Microtransaction Marketplace, yet most of the ongoing bugs have not been dealt with.  Updates are coming less and less frequently and the population is taking a real nosedive.

Hackers are everywhere and reporting seems to do nothing. 

If this game is truly "beta", why have they already opened a cash shop?  Will this game ever be out of "beta"?  Seems like it is more profitable to stay in "beta".

the term beta is a BS smoke screen. 

its used to make a global excuse to get around not doing anything.  i havent touched APB in over 3 weeks cause im sick of lag pvp as well as people with possible aim bots 1 hitting me in the chest or something.

i havent seem many of the bugs fixed from what i read about them. given this game is actually released 90% i fail to see how its a beta when they are charging money...  

but ya saying "its a beta we are working on it" is a smoke screen. to give u a false sense that they are working on it.. like an elected offical says "we will do this if you vote for me" and doesnt.. same thing just a differant context

just gotta say this, ive never played rtw's apb, but i heard it whas good, untill it got ran over by aimbotters... now gamerfirst has it and yes, they aint doing THAT much, but they are doing things, i hear from ppl that playet the rtw beta and then later till it ended, and they say, gamerfirst has already done more than rtw did, the game is now a little decent, a lot of things might need fixing, but not that many major ones, ive been playing it for long now, and the fuss about there are still aimbotters. ... whel there are, but like 75% less than ppl think ...i swear i have never aimbotted on it, and yet, almost daily i get hackusations.... almost every day, there is someone saying that i use aimbot and that they will report me ... but i rarely see aimbotters, altough ive seen like 10 maybe, in my entire apb career since closed beta (gamerfirst) and with them it whas obvious, they snapper while shooting and just knew constantly that u where there, and i have to say, 7 of them 10 are banned, already checked it and its true, there banned, ... now i know what u think (hypoteticly) , "wont they just make new accounts? its free to play..." true, but ive heard that they register the ip of the person, wich then they later ip ban if they ever try again, and yes, again u can have an ipchangher and w/e, but yeah....

i just wanne say... play the game, its not that bad, and ppl talking about lag? ive got onley like a normal pl setup, not to heavy and not to weak, and im having no problems with playing it, constant 50ms and maybe a server spike like once in like a day, like 2 secs 600ms ... so just saying its good enough, i love playing it, though it needs work, but not as much as alot of ppl are saying...

I rarely come onto boards to bitch about free games, but this one is terrible. I spent about 8 hours and what did I learn from this game? Don't bother. Its controls are clunky at best, it suffers from serious lag issues and the mission system is junk. Essentially it's an FPS grind for new outfits. I like what they were trying to do, but the execution is so poor and repetative its now no surprise to why this game shut down so quickly. Starter weapons are worthless in comparison to other items, the camera angles are funky, and I just can't fathom why I would put time into this when I could play a well designed FPS. I was really hoping this would be fun kind of a Battlefield/CoD meets GTA, but it doesn't even come close.

the starter weapon sucks? the starter weapon is good, i have a character that is gold 4 ranked and never bought ANY primary weapon, the starter weapon is good enough to let u own anyone that u want, u just gotta learn to play with it a bit, and deffenetly isent underpowered cus it is a very good weapon... and for everyone that say like , they have better weapons cus they have mods for it .... im gold 4 and gold 1, and on the gold 4 i use star (with no upgrades) and on the 1 gold i use the shotgun i got from closed beta with no upgrades, wich u can prob already buy for 10 days if u play like 2 hours .... so if ur saying u get underpowered weapons... its just u that are a bad player and your enemy is just crushing u...

Originally posted by ggblade

the starter weapon sucks? the starter weapon is good, i have a character that is gold 4 ranked and never bought ANY primary weapon, the starter weapon is good enough to let u own anyone that u want, u just gotta learn to play with it a bit, and deffenetly isent underpowered cus it is a very good weapon... and for everyone that say like , they have better weapons cus they have mods for it .... im gold 4 and gold 1, and on the gold 4 i use star (with no upgrades) and on the 1 gold i use the shotgun i got from closed beta with no upgrades, wich u can prob already buy for 10 days if u play like 2 hours .... so if ur saying u get underpowered weapons... its just u that are a bad player and your enemy is just crushing u...

 Read you post brother, it doesn't make any sense. This is a video game not a job skill if I have to "l2p" to start having fun in a game why bother? Successful/good games make the "l2p" part of the game fun, not an unproductive slaughter fest with hopes that eventually you "get it". Besides, why the hell does beta have a cash shop. This game looks suspiciously like a bad ploy to get people to fork over cash for some of Gamerfirsts other mediocre products.