All Points Bulletin (APB) Forum » General Discussion » So is there still no drug dealing or prostitution, AKA crime for criminals to do?

Originally posted by Conley

 

I heard that this game was supposed to be a GTA-clone MMO. But a GTA type game without drugs and prostitution is like a fantasy game without swords and sorcery.  Completely pointless.

seriously dude go play gta first before u make another crappy post! there is no prostitution in gta! dam dude...

Anyone ever play SWG? Remember entertainers? Prostitutes can be like that for criminals, it gets rid of fatigue! And the person playing can do something like StepMania, press arrows when it prompts to continue the act. When successful you hear noices and clips like in God of War. Make it a side job for money.

There are hookers in GTA. remember, ya get health for bouncin them in your car. Who the
Fuck cares whats in GTA anyway. APB isnt GTA and hopefully better. GTA is in my opinion genious. The best damn game ever. Obviously others think the same, hence the highest ratings ever. But, Who Cares about any of this. When is this fuckin game gonna be here? Thats all we should care about. We shouldnt care I cant spell either.

Originally posted by Stakex

Yea because robbing stores, banks, and other people aren't crimes? Oh and lets not forget about shootings, car theft, assault, hit and run, and what ever else Im sure they have in the game don't count as crime either? 

Do you seriouslly need to have low-life crimes such as drug dealing and prostitution in the game? Do you honestly think thoes are the only crimes in this world? If so, you sir, have some serious issues. Not to mention this game appears to be about action oriented crime, such as bank robberies. Its kinda hard to have running shootouts with prostisutes...

Wait... wait... let me get this straight. Drug dealing and prostitution are "low-life crimes," but mugging people, robbing banks, murders and hit-and-runs?

I mean you are right. In the real world only people who do the latter are upstanding individuals. The epitomy of high quality humanity.

Sir, contrary to you're protestations, I think its YOU who has the real issues.

So I agree with the OP. How can you have a "crime" MMO without drugs and protitutes?

 Funny how murder is ok but drugs is so horrible it can't be in game. What is wrong with people. 

Drugs would be a way to build and reason to maintain criminal empires It would be a great way to have gang turf fighting and police raids on drug houses.

as far as hookers....who cares. I don't need some online perv game. Maybe have it in some abstract sense to add to your criminal empire income.

According to the company gamesite, its going to be rated M for mature so I guess they could put in drugs 'n hoors if they wanted to, but as we learned from AoC, sometimes an M rating is just hype. Also its 100 players a session not 25.

After seeing the vids for this game, I'm pumped for it, seems like a game you'd upgrade your pc for, but still going to stick by my MMO evaluation method: Wait til 6 months after launch and a free trial before I spend any money.

I hope the M rating means we get to see boobs.

 [BOOBS] ( o Y o ) [/BOOBS] 

That's all that matters in an MMO anyway.. m i rite?

Originally posted by Scot

I think the MMO designers want us to do stuff we don't do in real life, otherwise its just like the day job

..So drugs and pimming are out.

damn that must mean bank jobs and jewelry heists are out too...

Remember, it's not always about what the developers want. The people who make MMO's do it to make money and in order to do so they have to stick within the Mature rating, usually below it. Plus, with it being an MMO then there's nothing to stop the players themselves bringing their own player driven content to the game and RP'ing prossies, drug dealers, whatever.. it doesn't have to be written into the game for it to be there, it's not an offline game remember. Plus i'm sure there will be plenty of hints ingame towards the things like this that you want to see, but when it comes to MMO's the devs have stick within guidelines if they want to make their cash and i doubt many parents would be paying for their teenagers subs if the game was all about hookers and drugs.

Originally posted by Kabaal

 devs have stick within guidelines if they want to make their cash and i doubt many parents would be paying for their teenagers subs if the game was all about hookers and drugs.

Strange how GTA has been so successful then, huh? I'm sure a good portion of their players are under 17.

Originally posted by gan3f

i don't need all the guns and drugs.. 

I'm just going to J-walk,litter, and speak loudly in a library.

Don' forgets bout defending yo turf down at the JC Penney stow in the mall.....

if anyone has watched history channels "GANGLAND" most of the wars are about what? DRUGS!
drug is what fuels gangs.. its how empires are born, prostitutes are a very good money making racket..
and how can defend a turf without drugs and prostitutes? thats the whole point of having gang turfs.. u morons, they are the money makers of gangs..
some of u seem to want only petty 1 man crimes.. like stupid robberys..
imagine u and ur "gang" controlling entire streets.. tagging ur turfs.. and u have to recruit prostitutes either by kidnaping or whatever.. and ur hookers patrol one part of block, u need to protect them cause thats ur major source of income for the gangs and so are drugs, same deal..
ITS A HUGE PART OF CRIME U IDIOTS.. it would add a shit load of depth, its how empires are born, u know the mexican cartels and cuban cartels how they became so rich? DRUGS u idiots..
it be fun to steal meth heads npc's from other gangs and come buy ur products instead lol...
god, i can't believe ppl post when they dont know shit

Ricefarmer I do agree with you partially however, gangs do not revolve soley around drugs and prostitution. Not all gangs deal in prostitution or drugs is a big part of some gangs. Some gangs deal with one and not the other, both or maybe none at all. This game can implement other criminal activities such as racketeering, extortion, human trafficking (though highly unlikely), kidnapping, armed robbery, fraud, gambling, murder for hire, grand theft auto, counterfeiting, arms trafficking, burglary, larceny,  and blackmail. So there are plenty of other things you can do other than prostitution and drugs that are still criminal activities that will earn your gang money.

If you guys have seen they have a trailer where a gang car jacks an armored truck; that could be a way to make money right there. Dev's might also have you deliver "packages" to locations and just not call them drugs so you really can't get too far ahead of yourselves just yet there could be numerous other things the dev's have planned in store for us to make the game interesting without dumbing it down for a PR issues and what not.

Originally posted by Delusive

Anyone ever play SWG? Remember entertainers? Prostitutes can be like that for criminals, it gets rid of fatigue! And the person playing can do something like StepMania, press arrows when it prompts to continue the act. When successful you hear noices and clips like in God of War. Make it a side job for money.

Too add to your post my friend SWG had drugs and there sales didnt lower i mean what wasa  smuggler and wTF do you people think "Spice" Was for your food?

I think people need a little less Jesus and a little more common sence.

Originally posted by Shohadaku

 Funny how murder is ok but drugs is so horrible it can't be in game. What is wrong with people. 

Drugs would be a way to build and reason to maintain criminal empires It would be a great way to have gang turf fighting and police raids on drug houses.

as far as hookers....who cares. I don't need some online perv game. Maybe have it in some abstract sense to add to your criminal empire income.

LoL no murder i na game has never fooled anyone to misjudge reality.

I mean loot at all those EQ kids that killed them selves and the WoW kid who stabbed his friend 2 blocks down with a dagger because he Ninja'ed a piece of lvl 40 gear off him (thats right wasnt even max it was 40)

or those kids who murdered there familys in there sleep with a Hammer from to much Mortal combat

i mean the list gos on kid killing his sister for making him get of Counter strike

But DRUGS ARE BAD EVERYONE VIOLENCE IS FINE DRUGS NO WAY.

When was rthe last time GTA influinced you to rip a line of Coke smoke some Crack and screw a bunch of hookers you saw in your local Slums in some dark alley.

Originally posted by Kabaal

 devs have stick within guidelines if they want to make their cash and i doubt many parents would be paying for their teenagers subs if the game was all about hookers and drugs.

Oh no but they will throw that money out at a game about drive bys hit and runs and shooting innocent people.

You know how stupid of a statement that is. My fucking IQ just dropped from reading that.

Originally posted by krieblood

Originally posted by Kabaal

 devs have stick within guidelines if they want to make their cash and i doubt many parents would be paying for their teenagers subs if the game was all about hookers and drugs.

Oh no but they will throw that money out at a game about drive bys hit and runs and shooting innocent people.

You know how stupid of a statement that is. My fucking IQ just dropped from reading that.

Hey it's a messed up world we live in. Spraying someone's brains on a wall is fine, but hookers and drugs aren't.

So whats engame then? Will clans have to fight over turfs and hideouts?   Is it realy only 100 people online?  Isnt that less than what AoC had in its zones?

Sounds like its all instance game with a virtual lobby room.  Whats the point of holding territory if everyone can have it just in alternate universes.

Am I wrong is this realy a mmog instead of a revolutionary FPS?

And about the topic    ya its kinda dumb theres no drugs.  Gangs and drugs go hand in hand.   Gangs are nothing but a group of people holding a terriotry.  Extorsion, prostitution, GTA , gambling and most important drugs to name a few. You control what happens in ur territory and you always get a cut (well big time stuff selling a dime wont get u cut up neither will stealing ur neighbors lawn gnomes).  Most gang wars are fought over selling drugs in there territory.

Thats why they say the Government is nothing but a large gang.

Originally posted by EvolvedMonky

So whats engame then? Will clans have to fight over turfs and hideouts?   Is it realy only 100 people online?  Isnt that less than what AoC had in its zones?

Sounds like its all instance game with a virtual lobby room.  Whats the point of holding territory if everyone can have it just in alternate universes.

Am I wrong is this realy a mmog instead of a revolutionary FPS?

 

And about the topic    ya its kinda dumb theres no drugs.  Gangs and drugs go hand in hand.   Gangs are nothing but a group of people holding a terriotry.  Extorsion, prostitution, GTA , gambling and most important drugs to name a few. You control what happens in ur territory and you always get a cut (well big time stuff selling a dime wont get u cut up neither will stealing ur neighbors lawn gnomes).  Most gang wars are fought over selling drugs in there territory.

Thats why they say the Government is nothing but a large gang.

In the new update enforcers vs. criminals it was already stated that gangs can kill other gang members for control of turf though I'm not sure how they'll know territory boundries. I think it's also more than just 100 players online, it maybe 100 players per instance. Devs said that players are matched up with players of similar skill and dispatched to the location of the crime etc etc. I do agree that it does sound like an instance with virtual lobby, but it's still early on and there really isn't too much info on the game just yet.

My post was probably deleted, but I'll say it again. Drugs while they are a major part of many gangs are not a part of all gangs. Devs prolly didn't want to put drugs into the game because our society views drugs and prostitution as a taboo, so much so it is even frowned upom to even talk about. Probably due to the fact that the older generation was raised to view drugs as the worst possible thing therefore they view it as a big "No no". Most parents  would avoid this game if it said anything about drugs and prostitutes in game, which would be unfortunate because many MMO are younger generation, not to say that all gamers require parent's permission, but a slightly younger generation also is a big source of revenue, so in order to appeal to the gamer without pissing off parents is removing those two elements.

My personal feelings on this matter is that they should have used drugs as an element in this game because like I said, even though not all gangs deal with drugs many do and this would have made for better story and game. On the other hand, prostitution is something that was better off taken out of the game because pimping prostitutes really isn't an area explored by gangs; very rarely do gangs go down this path usually it's organized crime or an individual that pursue this as a source off income. This  is not to say there aren't any gangs that deal with prostitution, but the only ones I've really heard about that deal with this is usually biker gangs.

Originally posted by Stakex

Do you seriouslly need to have low-life crimes such as drug dealing and prostitution in the game?

If you actually want the game to do well, yes. 

Originally posted by IIRL

And it's going to be a crappy as hell, 25 people in a session? This aint no MMORPG, this is a lesser version of GTA4 online mode.

Why don't you wait till the game comes out of until beta and then make up your mind about the game?

Unless of course you already played the game!

There will be at least two different versions of the game.

The U.S. version with asexual people dismembering each other and a German version where naked people stroke each other to death.

I half agree with this, while Drugs are a very large part of life, gangs and crime. I dont think they need too sell sex.

Not that i have a problem with sex  in the game i just don't this it would be tastfully intergrated into the game the same way drugs could.

I mean without drugs what do you sell for resources, making drugs, illegal gambling, maby prostituion are the only bussinesses i can think of worth having. Why have turf just for protection money thats kinda boring.

But yea drug use is alot more prevelante than theft should be in the game.

This thread shows how truely bizzare people can be.

Murder and robbery are great elements of a game but drugs and prostitution are strictly forbidden.  Its difficult to even fathom how this has become that status quo.  What morale code are these people following?

What the hell, no dealing....but killing and stealing etc is allowed I do not understand lmao.

NVM I see why, still going to kick but with out.