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Star Trek Online Forum » General Discussion raquo; Battlestar Galactica Online vs StarTrek Online

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  Mr_Cyberpunk

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1/29/11 9:57:20 PM#1

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/galleries/2010-06-19/battlestar-galactica-online/battlestar-galactica-online_1276991766.jpg

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/galleries/2010-06-19/battlestar-galactica-online/battlestar-galactica-online_1276991754.jpg

http://www.busygamer.com/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/500x_closed_beta_-_human_-_approved.jpg

This game looks extremely similar to STO, I've seen some leaked Closed Beta gameplay and basically its STO with full 3D movement, the devs are claiming it'll have RvR, 2 factions for PvP, Mining ect. Tbh though I think its too good to be true.

Many people are going to be comparing these games, they already are in the MMORPG.com part dedicated to the game.

Full 3D movement automatically gives the game +1 points over STO- will be interesting to see what happens. But I'll remain totally skeptic that they actually have a working RvR model.

It's a free to play game btw using an item shop.

On further inspection it does in fact have RvR, there's a bar for each sector that say Cylon/Human on either side, the bar fills up left or right depending on who is winning.

Each sector you get resources from scanning like you do in STO- its exactly the same from the looks of things.

  Ad-am

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1/29/11 10:11:05 PM#2

If it is modeled and set based on the new series it's going to tank. Sorry but the new series stinks. The old BSG was they way to go. Use to think Buck Rogers was the best tbh....lol

  Caltone

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Posts: 12

1/30/11 12:16:35 AM#3
Originally posted by Ad-am

If it is modeled and set based on the new series it's going to tank. Sorry but the new series stinks. The old BSG was they way to go. Use to think Buck Rogers was the best tbh....lol

 

I'm hoping you mean if its modeled on Caprica its going to tank...

No offense to the original series that started in the late 70's, it was good in its on way, but the reimagined series by Ron Moore (2004 -2009) is absoluteley some of the best television ever made.  Not just comparing it to sci-fi either, it stands on its own against anything.  It is an outstanding show, well written, well acted, heavy dark undertones throughout, and arcing storylines that went places few shows ever been.  There won't ever be anything like this show again, if you haven't  seen it, watch the mini series and the first 2 episodes and see if you can stay away...

  Thane

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1/30/11 12:19:39 AM#4

yea, only prob, it was completely different than the org series :)

 

i still wonder what this had to do with galactica

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  Dinendae

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1/30/11 12:20:22 AM#5
Originally posted by Ad-am

If it is modeled and set based on the new series it's going to tank. Sorry but the new series stinks. The old BSG was they way to go. Use to think Buck Rogers was the best tbh....lol

    Actually, you can't really make the claim that it's going to tank. Having watched both series, when they both aired, I liked the newer one more. There are a great many people who have never seen the original series. Whether the game does well or not is going to entirely be based off of how the game actually works (i.e. are the controls good or bad, is it a pay to win, or will cash shop items not be that powerful, etc.). Which series it is based off of doesn't really matter, except in regards to individual tastes.

"Oh my, how horrible, someone is criticizing a MMO. Oh yeah, that is what a forum is about, looking at both sides. You rather have to be critical of anything in this genre as of late because the track record of these major studios has just been appalling." -Ozmodan

  Sevenwind

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1/30/11 12:42:17 AM#6

I like the original series the best. I don't like robots hiding behind human skin. It's been done before and I think he could have done better. Both have their merits.

I'll still try the game out. I did enjoy the space combat of the new series.

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  Loke666

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1/30/11 12:54:11 AM#7

I BGO a CORPG like STO or a MMORPG? I mean is everything instanced besides "outposts" or not?

RvR and cash shop are 2 words I really don't like to hear together, how big will the pay2win factor of the game be?

BG is an easier IP to recreate than ST. BG do have more focus on individuality, with small dogfights and so on. The original series were even more so, I don't know how many times the pilots crashed somewhere and had to be rescued by the 1 or 2 other pilots.

ST on the other hand is focused on the interaction between the crew and that is more or less impossible to do right in a multi player game. A ship would really have to have 5 players on it or something for the game to feel like Star trek and that isn't practical in a MMO.

  Dinendae

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1/30/11 2:29:37 AM#8
Originally posted by Loke666

 

ST on the other hand is focused on the interaction between the crew and that is more or less impossible to do right in a multi player game. A ship would really have to have 5 players on it or something for the game to feel like Star trek and that isn't practical in a MMO.

   I don't think ST is impossible to do right, it just needs to be done in different ways than the standard MMO. Allow all party members to participate in NPC dialog like SW:TOR is doing. Allow multiple player-manned stations, each having a different function during combat, like SWG's JtL expansion did on the bigger ships. Have ship stations whose players are offline be manned by assigned NPC crew. Allow for multiple outcomes when interacting with NPCs, depending on what choices are made, like SW:TOR is doing. It wouldn't be perfect, but it would come far closer to the feel of ST.

"Oh my, how horrible, someone is criticizing a MMO. Oh yeah, that is what a forum is about, looking at both sides. You rather have to be critical of anything in this genre as of late because the track record of these major studios has just been appalling." -Ozmodan

  Mr_Cyberpunk

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1/30/11 6:17:28 AM#9

how about this, STO done right is essentially SWG pre-NG skinned for Star Trek but with more SFB/SFC/Bridge Commander (because they are somewhat related) styled combat controls (not the twitch based combat that JTL had).

I for one welcome any competition from both BSGO and the new Star Trek MMO that will eventually put Cryptic in their place and hopefully make them wake up to the fact that STO has always been an inferior product.

  Gdemami

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1/30/11 6:21:22 AM#10


Comparing browser to stand alone client platform? Oh, yeah...

  Mr_Cyberpunk

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1/30/11 5:21:48 PM#11

there's really no difference anymore between browser and standalone clients, most applets can run DirectX9 graphics to full their full ability so a game running in a browser could be just as good as a standalone.

  raistalin69

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1/30/11 7:00:06 PM#12
Originally posted by Mr_Cyberpunk

there's really no difference anymore between browser and standalone clients, most applets can run DirectX9 graphics to full their full ability so a game running in a browser could be just as good as a standalone.

 theirs also the fact that the engine that sto was built on was supposed to be ported to consoles, i think this limited what was originally planned for sto.  many people prefer console games, many do not. personally i find console games massively limited in what they can do for an  mmo, that being said, console imo generally can do better graphics.

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  erictlewis

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1/30/11 7:02:59 PM#13

I tired bsg beta, all I can say is if i were forced to play one i would play sto.  Anybody who knows my rants on how bad sto is, would get a clue what I really thing about bsg online,  I will use one word bsg online is the pits.

  raistalin69

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1/30/11 9:52:36 PM#14
Originally posted by erictlewis

I tired bsg beta, all I can say is if i were forced to play one i would play sto.  Anybody who knows my rants on how bad sto is, would get a clue what I really thing about bsg online,  I will use one word bsg online is the pits.

 ok fair enough, have not tried bs yet.

would you rather play bsg for free... or pay 15$ a month for sto though?

 

and out of curiousity what was so bad about bsg? (thinking of trying the beta)

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  erictlewis

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The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results.

1/30/11 11:09:54 PM#15
Originally posted by raistalin69
Originally posted by erictlewis

I tired bsg beta, all I can say is if i were forced to play one i would play sto.  Anybody who knows my rants on how bad sto is, would get a clue what I really thing about bsg online,  I will use one word bsg online is the pits.

 ok fair enough, have not tried bs yet.

would you rather play bsg for free... or pay 15$ a month for sto though?

 

and out of curiousity what was so bad about bsg? (thinking of trying the beta)

 (1) Controls

(2) UI

(3) just plain bad graphics i got better grahpics on my old xbox360 bsg game

  Gdemami

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1/31/11 1:36:12 AM#16


Originally posted by Mr_Cyberpunk
there's really no difference anymore between browser and standalone clients

Yeah, those gigabytes client is made of are basically for nothing.

Oh, dear...

  Mr_Cyberpunk

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1/31/11 8:56:28 PM#17

You download a stand alone client anyway don't you? the only difference between browser and standalone is that with a browser content has to be stream loaded in, a standalone is pre-loaded- even then you can always pre-load on a browser game anyway. There is no difference. And those gigabytes are mostly the assets of the game, not the binary file- which have to be downloaded at some point anyway.