Before Perpetual's vision of Star Trek Online became simplified and WoW-like the concept of starship interiors was very important. Players were to crew ships in space with on-board activities for training, relaxation, and battle. Then, Perpetual decided to make starship interiors only for HUBs, making player starships merely mounts in space.

Do people still want to walk around their own starships so bad? Do you think Cryptic Studios, given that they are developing STO, will implement the feature?

PSI's are critical features.

As for Cryptic going to use PSI's for player controlled ships...  no idea.  Depends on their targeted market.  If it is the mass market, which most likely is, then the answer is likely to be a No for player PSI's.

In my opinion, and it's just that, my opinion, I think that Cryptic (unofficially of course) should go all out in creating a truly compelling space/ship experience. It's the one area of the game that you really can't screw up on. From your avatars escorting an immersary to their quarters before departing on that diplomatic mission, to carefully manuvering your ship through a radioactive astrorid belt before your shields and hull integrity are compromised. They should treat your ship like a city (population: x - xx), as a map/base with it's own points of interest and key allied npcs. Creating ground enviorments is easy and the industry has had plenty of practice at it. Creating Space/Ship enviorment is not so easy. Space moreso than the ship. But the majority of the time spent in the series was aboard starships and some stations. The planet enviorments was there to compliment ship enviorment. In STO, the ground experience should compliment the space experience. Not the other way around. It will require more than just two diamentional thinking of the been there and done that mentality. It will require people who are willing to think outside the box. After all, this is suppose to Star Trek. And again, in my opinion.

I tell you what, if Cryptic wanna make a load of money they better have them in. I for one if no psi is ingame will not even bother with it as more than likely they will be using 2007 technology to code a 2011 game (that won't do).

PE made a bad choice in thumbing the game down in a bunch of areas  and I'll list them

• Having the captain pilot a capital ship
• No psis in ships or EVE online dynamic (that was bull$%^&)
• WOW aliens instead of real alien models (did they even look at the shows?)
• Not catering to a Star Trek crowd period

Those were the biggest mistakes they could have made with the game that made me lose interest and decide the game wouldn't be worth a crap if it went from vaporware (did we ever see a working model?).

A lot of people rant and rave about not having it cater to a Star Trek crowd,but I don't think those individuals have come to think out the box "you can make a Star Trek MMO fun without putting a Calculous problem in it". No one ever said it would have to be 100% Trek just keep the premiss of it "which PE lost site of when they put that WOW alien in the game".

Originally posted by Tonev

No one ever said it would have to be 100% Trek just keep the premiss of it "which PE lost site of when they put that WOW alien in the game".

No, they were already blind as a bat well before the WOW toon was even concieved. Their path down the darkside started less than a year after the STO announcement.

Starship interiors are a must.  I won't even look at a "Star Trek" MMO if there is not the means to interact with other players aboard ship.  Don't give me EvE with a Star Trek skin.

This will be difficult to implement, yes.  And one of the reason I don't believe a Star Trek MMO will ever see the light of day.

This has become a large misconception within the community. Perpetual never said that there wouldn't be so-called PSIs in STO. The discussion was whether or not to fully model the interiors, including unnecessary systems, like Jeffries tubes, and leave only major places, like the Bridge, Transporter rooms, and a few others that players would frequent.

It was never a complete and total 3rd person view of only the outside of the ship.

PSI in all it's entirety is pretty critical for making this a sucessfull MMO.

PSI and crafting are important IMO.

I don't wan't a space sim.......if I did I would be playing EVE. I wan't to live in a star fleet universe where I am free to make any choice or career decision that I would be able to in the game....Including betray my race/uniform.

PSI are just too important to let go of. Without PSI alot of features we all wan't to see in this game would be either sadly lacking or entirely impossible.

No PSI = no hiding aboard enemy ships

No PSI = no ability to fight for control of the ship in 1st/3rd person view.

No PSI = no need to memorize the systems in the ship/All ships would be functionally identical.

No PSI = no extensive crafting/skill system.

No PSI = no relevant effect of battle damage other than performance.

No PSI = FAILURE/DOOM

Hmm how i would set startrek is frankly during the time of Kirk, with lots of Klingons/Romulans to go around ok the technology wasnt UBAH but then it wasnt out of place.

By setting it in the original time frame you bring in much more options for pvp and or proper starship fights. Also although i like next generation and voyagers time period i feel that it was lacking in real action. Ok it had the dominion war but it was rather one sided until the end.

The original series had more charm i feel.

There is a lot more option as the starships wernt as big as say a galaxy or sovereign class starship. So you could get away with guild run constitution class starships. Also they wouldnt be able to stuff the Q in to put in silly away missions. It would be proper exploration and NO borg appearing to be overpowered.

also no mucking about on holodecks :P

You could have the odd klingon incursion and romulans being norty and then you have more sedated away missions.

Cryptic need to stick to a plan decide what they want and go with it, however i feel they really do need to make the game around the ships its what makes startrek startrek.

In my books :P

call me a shallow bastard but if they have no PSI then I wont buy it.

And what I mean by PSI, I mean if i want to look at Deck 9-J Jeffry tube, I can.

Are they important to the show? The franchise? The Mythos?

They're important to the game as well.  I think each ship class, or at least ship-size should have its own interior map and be filled with content.  Small defiant-ships, not so much, but Galaxy class? There's NPCs there, NPCs with their own storylines.  There's belligerent crewmen, some that can even turn violent if triggered.  There's prisoners to escort, holodeck simulations (and disasters) to play out and aftereffects from battles and anomalies.

Add that to the great ideas you've been kicking around in here and yes, it's clear... ground combat, and even ship-to-ship combat should compliment the shipboard experience.