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Star Trek Online Forum » Perpetual Studios Version Discussion raquo; Cryptic: Cover Blown
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Dracus
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Joined: 7/14/04
"Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars." |
There has been some legal debates going on at Star Trek Games (www.startrek-games.com) about releasing a 60 page game design document of the older version of Star Trek Online. Just as the first portion of the document was to be posted, a legal rep notified the admin of the site, of the following (in brief): I made my Investigation Skill Roll. And that is why... Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness. |
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3/13/08 3:59:03 PM#2
Originally posted by Dracus Its good to see Cryptic going for something new then just Super hero games, I think they will do a great job with this game.
I hope they bring back Ship Interiors and the Holo-Deck and make the game a true skill based masterpiece like what was orginally stated.
-Jive |
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3/13/08 4:05:39 PM#3
Nice detective work there! Indeed interesting. I'm not sure if I'm happy Cryptic has taken over the project or not. I'll wait and see when they finally release info on the game before I cheer or vomit. Again, nice work! |
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3/13/08 6:32:19 PM#4
good work dracus! |
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FinniganGuy
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Joined: 10/13/07
Sleep, me boy. Sleep for a long, long time. Sleep for as long as ya like! |
3/13/08 6:38:18 PM#5
Dracus = The Man Not bad for a non-kool-aid drinking naysayer! |
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Shannia
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Joined: 11/06/05
"World of WarCraft is held alive solely by the mediocrity of competing products." RendRegen |
3/13/08 6:39:22 PM#6
I was hoping for Blizzard. Cryptic has a good track recored, so I guess we can't complain. At least the Star Trek franchise isn't in the hands of the PWhatever any longer. I will this, if Cryptic has Daron working on this project, I'm protesting Cryptic Studios.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware "Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product." |
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Anofalye
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Joined: 11/19/03
The enemy is so dumb! They believe that WE are the enemy! - A famous orc commander. |
3/13/08 6:43:48 PM#7
If this is true...
I might become a trekkie.
Now, I will have to learn how to do the Vulcan peace greetings, wouldn't I? :P - "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - René Levesque about the denial NO on the poll to his dream, project and goal. (Free translation) |
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3/13/08 8:04:57 PM#8
This is a good sign, thanks for the great detective work Dracus! On a side note, Cryptic is also pretty good at having their own website and forum for the games they develope so they won't have to post on an "official STO fan forum." nuff said. |
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3/14/08 2:07:25 AM#9
Originally posted by daadamo
And thank goodness for that! |
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3/19/08 2:06:04 AM#10
Wasnt the last STO: Forurm ran by a bunch of forum nazis? http://www.speedtest.net/result/1775656162.png |
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3/20/08 1:25:14 PM#11
I'm still skeptical, but either way Cryptic isn't exactly a developer that makes depthy games. Don't expect anything for trekkies-ONLY. Look at their other games, they take simlistic approaches much like PE was doing. I wouldnt expect a game too far in a different direction, not that it matters at this point. If they start from scratch, you're looking at a good 4-5 years till release. |
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3/26/08 1:01:47 PM#12
I'm not sure this is good news. Isn't Crypic already developing another game ? --- |
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Deathstrike2
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Joined: 2/04/06
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope." - Martin Luther King, Jr. |
3/26/08 1:09:37 PM#13
My only complaint with Cryptic was the repeative missions in CoH. Other than that, they put out a really good game. Hopefully, they've learned a lot and can apply this knowledge to STO.
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3/27/08 6:55:02 AM#14
Originally posted by Xris375 And a game developing company can't develop more then one game because...........?????????
I really am wondering about this BTW. According to Jack Emmert's (heed of Cryptic) day in the life on ChampionsOnline.com article, he had meetings about three games in development and I think one that he isn't really involved with. |
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3/27/08 7:52:39 AM#15
Quote: "And a game developing company can't develop more then one game because...........?????????"
Perpetual Entertainment couldn't do it. Remember? |
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Dracus
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Joined: 7/14/04
"Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars." |
Actually I think it is very possible for a company to be working on more than MMO, and even have reduce cost in resources, time and capital. But to do so, this must be done in a streamline manner as how book RPG's are done (ie: D20 system and campaigns). Utilize the same platform, same game mechanics, same code, and same guidelines. Of course apply some modifications were needed to suit the titles. Essentially take one completed game, reskin it and change the environment to fit the genre. Same system, different campaign. Change management becomes easier as one fix should fix the bugs in the other games. Granted there are trade-offs with this approach.
Will Cryptic do this? I am going to say, not likely, but using a form of the HERO System for Champions Online has the possibility for this approach to happen.
And that is why... Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness. |
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3/27/08 2:46:40 PM#17
I very much imagine Cryptic will use their existing infrastructure and literally plaster everything PE did onto it, art style, story and overall concept. They might tweak it a little, but I definitely don't imagine the game is going to be much different to what PE had in mind. |
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3/27/08 3:00:11 PM#18
Originally posted by Keogh Poor example because just about every other game development studio in existence has more than one game going at a time. Just looking in the MMO space Blizzard and Turbine are prime examples. There was actually an article on gamasutra the other day, an interview really, with game producer Joe Ybarra (Stargate Worlds) talking about the importance of having multiple projects on the go when a typical mmo has a 3 - 5 year turn around time. ... transmitted on 100% recycled electrons ... |
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3/27/08 6:46:31 PM#19
Wow. Hey, I think i see some Weapons of Mass Destruction in the distance too! Hey they were independently confirmed! I saw Hillary jumping out of the helicopter with bullets wizzing by her head! All you have are some lame rumors to hang onto any shred of hope that this game will go anywhere. COMING SOON! L O L "Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." ~ Ronald Reagan |
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3/28/08 10:30:29 PM#20
Originally posted by firefly2003 No, only one Nazi and that was Cinc ( a male posing as a woman). He is happily complaining and whining on the Warhammeralliance forums now
On a side note and back on topic, 3 cheers for Dracus! Nice going with this find! |
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