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MMORPG | Genre:Sci-Fi | Status:Final  (rel 02/02/10)  | Pub:Perfect World Entertainment
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  rojoArcueid

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Joined: 8/13/09
Posts: 5827

"It is double pleasure to deceive the deceiver". - Niccolo Machiavelli

10/16/13 3:47:33 PM#21
Originally posted by Skooma2

I also tried STO.  However, I could not get past the crappy graphics.  On my rig, it looked like the graphics came from 10 years ago.

 

the graphics are pretty good un ultra settings. Not 2013 graphics but far from old. Somewhat on par with Neverwinter.

  Juice2000

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Joined: 1/28/13
Posts: 92

10/16/13 4:16:42 PM#22
With the choice of ships and who is on your crew plus the ability to customise everything from looks to names and then change it all at any moment made this game for me roleplay heaven in a single player type of way. However the endgame is all grind will little done to promote fleet play. So as much as i love this game it will always be a go to game that i never quit but never commit alot of time to, much like gw2 as well. such a shame =(
  thunderC

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Joined: 5/17/12
Posts: 431

10/16/13 4:20:47 PM#23
Cryptic you say ? No Thank You!!!!
  nariusseldon

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Joined: 12/21/07
Posts: 20673

10/16/13 4:27:01 PM#24
Originally posted by juice2000
With the choice of ships and who is on your crew plus the ability to customise everything from looks to names and then change it all at any moment made this game for me roleplay heaven in a single player type of way. However the endgame is all grind will little done to promote fleet play. So as much as i love this game it will always be a go to game that i never quit but never commit alot of time to, much like gw2 as well. such a shame =(

You don't have to play the endgame. I don't plan to do so. There are so many story missions that i won't be finishing this game for a long time (particularly i play on and off).

 

  Roin

Hard Core Member

Joined: 10/12/03
Posts: 2900

10/16/13 6:34:52 PM#25
Originally posted by Elreic
Originally posted by Roin
It's a decent game. If another company had handle it besides Cryptic it could have been good or even great. Also having PW in the mix doesn't help. They don't see anything but $$ signs when it comes to the people that play STO. As much as they rob people on items you'd think things would be fixed. But I guess that's just not the Cryptic/PW way.

 

Well it seems you can do a TON for free. They have to pay for the game somehow, you prefer sub model?

That's not what I mean. I mean PW/Cryptic are more focused on making money then on creating an enjoyable experience. My biggest problem with the game is in no order:

A) Lock Boxes - These are just by the worse thing to be put in STO or any F2P game for that matter. I have no problem spending money on F2P games. But Lockbox rely too heavily on milking you for ever penny or eating up absurd amounts of time farming money to buy keys to unlock boxes.

B) Nothing being fixed - I started playing STO back in early 2012 I think (I still play now matter of fact). But some of the same bugs that were present then, are there now.

C & D) Too much repetition/Too much time required farming - STO is like I said a decent game. The story is enjoyable and moves along at a good pace, and is interesting. It comes to a screeching halt once you hit VA though. Not too bad right? Till you find out their idea of what to do at VA is grinding  tokens in the same STF's over, and over, and over, and over. Still not too bad right? Every game has a bit of repetition for endgame. What makes it bad is that you are expected to also spend ridiculous amounts of time farming as the reputation systems starts requiring greater and greater amounts of items that just eat away your EC faster then you can make it. The worse part of the Reputation on top of that is the Dith requirements for some of the projects. Even funnier is if you decide to start a new character. Your rep grind starts all over. Your dith grind starts all over. Your mark grind starts all over. In the same STF's you been running before.

Like I said it is a decent game it is just held back by a lack of patching to fix bugs. A lack of new content.  Too great a focus on milking you for ever penny, and eating up as much of your time as possible while rewarding you with as little as possible.

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In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.

  Gardavsshade

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Joined: 6/27/11
Posts: 667

10/16/13 8:37:41 PM#26
Originally posted by Elreic
Originally posted by Roin
It's a decent game. If another company had handle it besides Cryptic it could have been good or even great. Also having PW in the mix doesn't help. They don't see anything but $$ signs when it comes to the people that play STO. As much as they rob people on items you'd think things would be fixed. But I guess that's just not the Cryptic/PW way.

 

Well it seems you can do a TON for free. They have to pay for the game somehow, you prefer sub model?

You weren't asking me, but Yes, and always. It is dangerous to rely on the generosity of Large aquatic Mammals.

 

I found STO enjoyable, but shallow, as a Trekkie there were a number of "issues" i had with the game, but Cryptic didn't care during beta or at Launch. Cryptic has added content, some things did get better. Good to hear a Player (OP) is enjoying themselves.

For me the Lock Boxes got on my nerves.... If it's Loot in a MMO Then I had better be at least able to toss it in Replicator and get some Energy Credits out of it, but no. The announcements every time a Player got a Ship from a Lockbox was completely annoying for me.... the whole Lockbox and Announcements thing was ultimately why I quit. If another Player Captain wants to tell me they got a new ship, then cool, but it shouldn't be announced to the Galaxy.

  CaptFabulous

Novice Member

Joined: 4/24/12
Posts: 12

10/17/13 12:07:36 AM#27

I'm very much enjoying STO these days. Of the 3 Cryptic games currently out there STO is by far the best. People will always complain about lockboxes and F2P, but it's just the nature of the beast. The reality is you don't need to spend a single dime if you don't want to. None of the content is gated. Yes there are better quality ships in the cash shop, but NONE of them are needed for PvE, you can do just fine with the ships that are given to you for free along with the space/ground sets you get as missions completion rewards. So while the lockboxes do tend to get irritating, it's easy enough to ignore them, trash them, or sell them.

I'm no fan of PWE. Honestly, I hate them with a passion, but this is a really fun game, especially if you're into Trek even just a little. Not only do you have 3 classes to play (tactical, engineer, science), but there are different types of ships (escorts=DPS, cruisers=tank, science=buff/debuff) so you can mix and match for a unique playing experience. And once you go thru all the story arcs of one faction, guess what? There are TWO MORE factions to go thru. Add in the foundry and you literally will never run out of missions to do.

And yes, the rep system gets grindy, but no one says you have to do it. None of it is necessary to having a viable character to play. The only time this stuff comes into play is in PvP. If you don't PvP then none of it matters.

  CaptFabulous

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Joined: 4/24/12
Posts: 12

10/17/13 12:08:46 AM#28
Originally posted by Gardavsshade
 The announcements every time a Player got a Ship from a Lockbox was completely annoying for me.... the whole Lockbox and Announcements thing was ultimately why I quit. If another Player Captain wants to tell me they got a new ship, then cool, but it shouldn't be announced to the Galaxy.

You know you can turn those off, right?

  neorandom

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Joined: 1/15/08
Posts: 1753

10/17/13 12:14:46 AM#29
Originally posted by Skooma2

I also tried STO.  However, I could not get past the crappy graphics.  On my rig, it looked like the graphics came from 10 years ago.

 

try running it on ultra on a rig not from 10 years ago.

  TheOctagon

Advanced Member

Joined: 2/12/11
Posts: 175

10/17/13 1:06:55 AM#30

I feel bad for Craptic because their vision of the game was taken from them once Perfect World took over. Now its a chinese grindfest just like every other Perfect World game. If you've played one, you've played them all. I thought it was funny how Neverwinter played EXACTLY like STO, just with a fantasy rather than a sci fi theme.

And I'm a Lifetime STO member. Oh how I wish I could get that money back

  Vhyle

Novice Member

Joined: 5/04/13
Posts: 8

10/17/13 10:53:47 AM#31

I got this game back before it launched.  I had money back then, and bought the Lifetime subscription they offered (waste of money that I still regret to this day).  

Anyway, like a previous poster mentioned, if another company was running this game, it would probably be completely different.  Cryptic, although they want to try hard and actually accomplish something, they just don't seem to know how.  When they went f2p, and the Chinese Overlords took over, it seemed to me that Cryptic no longer gets any kind of support for the game.  They actually came out with the Romulan expansion, which is a great expansion, but much of the  base game still needs to be worked on and fixed because much of it still has bugs.  They are too numerous for me to list, just go to their forum and check it out, they have a running list.

I am a fan of Star Trek, but not of this game.  Every time I try and do something within the game, I get tired of it after about a week, then I uninstall it.  I did get my moneys worth out of the game at least when I did play it, but it just isn't for me. 

I will say though, that it's still a very populated game.  Klingons got some much needed love, and I hope they continue to add more to them.  At least they now have a story that sort of lives up to the federation side.  They actually start at the same level as feds, and it's story content up to about when the feds story ends, I believe.  I honestly did not play much of the Klingons, I just know they now have the story stuff at the start, at level 1. 

It's a great game, but there are better games out there to play.   I will now ever play a game that PW has their fingers in, because they just ruin the game.  That's my opinion. 

  DEATHRAMENT

Novice Member

Joined: 2/13/07
Posts: 607

10/17/13 11:39:10 AM#32
I'm also a huge star trek fan but the combat in this game i just don't like. I find it very boring unfortunatly. Ive tried it several times because i really want to like it but just can't get past it.
  AG-Vuk

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Joined: 7/26/04
Posts: 837

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10/17/13 1:58:06 PM#33
Originally posted by TheOctagon

I feel bad for Craptic because their vision of the game was taken from them once Perfect World took over. Now its a chinese grindfest just like every other Perfect World game. If you've played one, you've played them all. I thought it was funny how Neverwinter played EXACTLY like STO, just with a fantasy rather than a sci fi theme.

And I'm a Lifetime STO member. Oh how I wish I could get that money back

Hardly. Craptic was well into this model under Atari, before PWI. Let's not change history here. Just not as in your face. don't make excuses for a failed model that was always in the place. Just because ownership changed doesn't mean the design changed.

  Mendel

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Joined: 7/22/11
Posts: 652

10/17/13 3:05:41 PM#34
I was having a moderately good time playing the f2p version of STO.   Then I advanced to a point where I could have more bridge officer slots on a ship (5) than I could have in my 'crew' (4).  At that point, it became totally counterproductive to try to advance any further.   PWE wasn't going to have access to any of my electronic payment methods, and none of the local stores had a PWE ZEN card.   (The price on unlocking extra bridge officers was pretty steep, PWE doesn't really list the $-to-ZEN conversion, and the game is full of blasted locked loot boxes).  The near linear nature of the game makes replay almost nonexistent.

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  daltanious

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Joined: 4/19/08
Posts: 1945

10/20/13 8:50:22 AM#35
Originally posted by Elreic

So I played this game at launch. Picked it back up two weeks ago. I have to say, early on I found the game too simple and smallish. Fast forward to today...

 

1. HUGE

2. Complex gaming and lots to do, duty officers, crafting, its pretty neat

3. Looks great

4. Missions are fun

5. Events are fun

6. A ton of variety

7. Its a space game!

 

I am so surprised and wonder why more folks are not taking a look at this game.

Khm, resisted to play for week or two (only because big ST lower) ... then game over. I can not agree on signle point of yours except for 7.

  Burntvet

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Joined: 11/16/07
Posts: 2800

10/20/13 9:00:44 AM#36
Originally posted by Vorthanion
Like all Cryptic games, the new paint feel disappears after the first couple of weeks.  Too much instancing makes the game feel like there are only one or two zones that are alive with general chatter, the rest is sheer silence unless you have an active guild.  In a genre that is full of repetition, Cryptic has mastered the art.  Most modern updates to the game exist primarily through the cash shop and it was so in your face as I played the game, I sometimes felt like I was playing retail sales online.

This ^.

/Endthread

  Lahuzer

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Joined: 5/07/09
Posts: 686

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10/20/13 9:43:50 AM#37
If STO had miningfull PVP I would have stayed 4evva. Now it's just some instanced battleground-like matches. Totally pointless. Should have had the three factions fight for recources/territorial control etc. Somewhat like they do in Pirates of The Burning Sea. That would have made this game EPIC. Now it's just carebear gold, since the PVE is good. But for the PVPers, theres nothing to hang around for. Sad.
  mindw0rk

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Joined: 8/31/06
Posts: 1368

11/29/13 11:13:34 PM#38

Installed. Started as Romulans. Laughed at how bad everything looks and plays. Threw the game in trash bin.

 

  Stuka1000

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Joined: 8/20/03
Posts: 815

11/29/13 11:42:14 PM#39
Originally posted by Elreic

So I played this game at launch. Picked it back up two weeks ago. I have to say, early on I found the game too simple and smallish. Fast forward to today...

 

1. HUGE

2. Complex gaming and lots to do, duty officers, crafting, its pretty neat

3. Looks great

4. Missions are fun

5. Events are fun

6. A ton of variety

7. Its a space game!

 

I am so surprised and wonder why more folks are not taking a look at this game.

You missed openly pay to win

  Razeekster

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Joined: 7/09/11
Posts: 2038

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11/29/13 11:47:48 PM#40
Originally posted by mindw0rk

Installed. Started as Romulans. Laughed at how bad everything looks and plays. Threw the game in trash bin.

 

Pretty much my reaction. It felt nothing like Star Trek at all. How Cryptic got the IP to make a Star Trek MMO is still one of the greatest mysteries to this day. It isn't as if they've ever made an MMO that wasn't instanced to hell, with ugly character models, and a sucky game engine.

 

And then they got the rights to make a MMO based off of Neverwinter? How, I ask you. How?!

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